Pearl Harbor

[Jstar1]

did anyone know todays the day japan attacked america at pearl harbor??

[fena]

Yesterday, December 7, 1941 - a date which will live in infamy - the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan...

At least a good movie came out of it. xp

[Grimjaw]

Yes. Someone in my family commented on it some time ago..

[ranger4life]

BANZAI!!!!!!!

lol.

[Squirt]

An event that actually happened and many lives were lost is a minor holiday. But yet a Mythical fat man in a red suit is one of the most celebrated holidays around.

[Grimjaw]

An event that actually happened and many lives were lost is a minor holiday. But yet a Mythical fat man in a red suit is one of the most celebrated holidays around.

Sometimes things are best left in the back of one's head, the only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing. I pray that something like that never occurs again.

On a side note, now I have to think about that song which Fort Minor made, "Kenji."

[satman83]

Not really as big as turning point as people would expect

[Grimjaw]

Still. It deserves respect and reflection.

[Jstar1]

Not really as big as turning point as people would expect

yeah japan screwed up

[user]

Not really as big as turning point as people would expect

yeah japan screwed up

not as bad as Hitler decided to fck with Mother Russia

[Grimjaw]

[heroo]

OMFG HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, ROFLE @ ABOVE

hahaha, sooo focking funny lol

[XemnasXD]

Still. It deserves respect and reflection.

not really, the US sacrifice hundreds of soldiers for an excuse to enter the war...it was a strategic move....

[Midori]

But yet a Mythical fat man in a red suit is one of the most celebrated holidays around.

I can not express my reaction in words.

[Barotix]

I love this thread. Oh, and AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

[Phaidra]

It was the day America FINALLY got off there arses and did something to help during the war, before that they just sat back and watched millions die.

[Barotix]

That's because it wasn't any of our business, but we did help the Allied forces before we officially entered the war.

[satman83]

It was the day America FINALLY got off there arses and did something to help during the war, before that they just sat back and watched millions die.

no...no they didnt, in fact they were helping the war effort for a while, using cruise
liners and passenger ships to ferry over supplies and much needed refile to England,
and even after they lost 100's of ships to German U boats they kept on sending over
ships even at the expense of 1000's of lives.

[Mr.Ganji]

not really, the US sacrifice hundreds of soldiers for an excuse to enter the war...it was a strategic move....

Whether it was for financial gain or not, whether the US really allowed Pearl Harbor to happen or not, I'm sure soon enough some politician would have realized that America would have been ..... once Hitler dominated Europe and Tojo dominated Asia.

They were preparing invasion plans for N. America you know...

[Midori]

not really, the US sacrifice hundreds of soldiers for an excuse to enter the war...it was a strategic move....

Whether it was for financial gain or not, whether the US really allowed Pearl Harbor to happen or not, I'm sure soon enough some politician would have realized that America would have been ..... once Hitler dominated Europe and Tojo dominated Asia.

They were preparing invasion plans for N. America you know...

And they wouldn't be successful. America is relatively isolated. Two big ocean on both sides, do you know how hard it is to keep a steady stream of supplies AND commands from that far apart in the 1940s? We would have no problem defending our coast line. And they wouldn't be able to keep their huge empire for long, it wold of crumbled quick, especially if they are focusing on a country thousands of miles away across vast area of water.

[user]

That's because it wasn't any of our business, but we did help the Allied forces before we officially entered the war.

Americans didn't want to help because of the number of Americans fighting someone else's war all the way on the other side of the world

[Barotix]

That's because it wasn't any of our business, but we did help the Allied forces before we officially entered the war.

Americans didn't want to help because of the number of Americans fighting someone else's war all the way on the other side of the world

????

[Melez]

Yes.

[Grimjaw]

Let me rephrase it a bit, can anything be more stupid than that a man has the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of a river and his ruler has a quarrel with mine, though I have not quarreled with him? I mean I hate war for its consequences, for the lies it lives on and propagates, for the undying hatreds it arouses, for the dictatorships it puts in the place of democracies, and for the starvation that stalks after it..

When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather then avenge it? Or point out who killed more on what side on what day?

[satman83]

The Germans also had plans to invade Brittan, not good plans mind you but plans anyway.

[Barotix]

Let me rephrase it a bit, can anything be more stupid than that a man has the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of a river and his ruler has a quarrel with mine, though I have not quarreled with him? I mean I hate war for its consequences, for the lies it lives on and propagates, for the undying hatreds it arouses, for the dictatorships it puts in the place of democracies, and for the starvation that stalks after it..

When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it? Or point out who killed more on what side on what day?

You might like the libertarian doctrine of non-initiation of force.
@Satman, they had a plan to bomb Britain with counterfeit pounds as a means of bringing them to their knees.

[satman83]

Let me rephrase it a bit, can anything be more stupid than that a man has the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of a river and his ruler has a quarrel with mine, though I have not quarreled with him? I mean I hate war for its consequences, for the lies it lives on and propagates, for the undying hatreds it arouses, for the dictatorships it puts in the place of democracies, and for the starvation that stalks after it..

When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it? Or point out who killed more on what side on what day?

You might like the libertarian doctrine of non-initiation of force.
@Satman, they had a plan to bomb Britain with counterfeit pounds as a means of bringing them to their knees.

Yea...they had a lot of crazy plans

[Grimjaw]

You might like the libertarian doctrine of non-initiation of force.

Thank you Baro. :)

[XemnasXD]

not really, the US sacrifice hundreds of soldiers for an excuse to enter the war...it was a strategic move....

Whether it was for financial gain or not, whether the US really allowed Pearl Harbor to happen or not, I'm sure soon enough some politician would have realized that America would have been ..... once Hitler dominated Europe and Tojo dominated Asia.

They were preparing invasion plans for N. America you know...

this i know....so your point is what....better to sacrifice soldiers like dogs to the japanese then try and effectively make the american people aware the the threat that hitler would eventually pose to us....

not that i don't think this day should be remembered, its my birthday, i couldn't be more mostalgic

[Locketart]

Not sure who the greater evil is here, the Japanese who attacked Pearl Harbot and killed a couple thousand soldiers or the U.S. who nuked 2 Japanese cities and killed more than 100,000 civilians.