selenne wrote:everyones waitin for aion (include me on that), but bot companies and reverse engineering teams (eg. 0x33) are gettin ready to work on it, afaik. i hope we dont find a 2nd sro ther.
OT: joymax will keep makin mall items like that till the unhappiness of their customers runs out of control. then, maybe, they'll think about fix the game. Aion's release might be a reason to fix it too.
The aion bot is done already, was running around in korean open beta ... oh well ....
Be straight be proud of it, don't end up like them:
selenne wrote:everyones waitin for aion (include me on that), but bot companies and reverse engineering teams (eg. 0x33) are gettin ready to work on it, afaik. i hope we dont find a 2nd sro ther.
OT: joymax will keep makin mall items like that till the unhappiness of their customers runs out of control. then, maybe, they'll think about fix the game. Aion's release might be a reason to fix it too.
The aion bot is done already, was running around in korean open beta ... oh well ....
my bad, what i mean is that theyre already workin on that for da international release. i still get pwned by english sometimes.
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Shadowfox542 wrote:This just makes the gap between silk buyers and non silk buyers even more insane.
I started playing SRO during early 70cap, and the only items that were (Imo) unfair was the 20% stat scrolls...I have yet to find someone who abuses them today.
Then the premium. 5% is cool, no big deal. Meh, its more like 6% with str/ar/parry but still, not a huge difference.
Avatars...Helped, but still, just like premium, not a huge difference.
However, combined, it starts to make things unfair. Then I went to school.
Come back...Premium PLUS. So now if you buy silk, you can have ~13% defense/offense increase, which is a big difference. Combined with avatar its ~18% stronger than a non silk buyer. Devil spirit will just add to this gap, forcing more non silk buyers to quit, and more people to buy silk.
On the bright side, I buy silk, so this will benefit me.
Also, @ whoever was talking about 25% HP increase....I am a rogue, enjoy pvping me now I have more attack and will never die =D (Good at heal tanking)
HAHA right there with ya bud gogo ROGUES!! WITH A OR S
So the whole thing is a new gameplay element or just temporary? I saw Cruor mention something about skills for it too.
Ziegfried wrote:What you do or say in any game is a small extension of who you really are. It's the anonymity that can allow them to show their true self, or who they would be if there was no "penalty" for their actions.
Shadowfox542 wrote:They got banned from a free game, they lost nothing that they paid for. Its a game, its successful if it keeps you entertained, and if it doesn't, quit.
So basically "You can't play unless you pay". They aren't forcing you to play but also not letting you either. Right?
The only rule there is at Joymax is that they can do whatever the **** they want with your account.
And as long as you buy silk, you can pretty much do whatever you want in their game lol
I could of think much better jobs, that also do ruin games =.=.
They are basically making something with infinite stock and cost nothing to make(sounded kinda like joymax lol), but yet people will pay to use it. I bet the main company is racking in at least 50k+ a year or so.
The item is just another way to force people to spend money in the game. Without it prepare to die as if the other players have 10th degree gear.
I could of think much better jobs, that also do ruin games =.=.
They are basically making something with infinite stock and cost nothing to make(sounded kinda like joymax lol), but yet people will pay to use it. I bet the main company is racking in at least 50k+ a year or so.
The item is just another way to force people to spend money in the game. Without it prepare to die as if the other players have 10th degree gear.
Damn beat me to it.
Infinite supply in the hands of the programmer. High demand in the hands of the noobs. Capitalism dictates that's a kick ass job.
I could of think much better jobs, that also do ruin games =.=.
They are basically making something with infinite stock and cost nothing to make(sounded kinda like joymax lol), but yet people will pay to use it. I bet the main company is racking in at least 50k+ a year or so.
The item is just another way to force people to spend money in the game. Without it prepare to die as if the other players have 10th degree gear.
nobody buys it and problem's solved.
lemme dream, damn.
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Devil's Spirit A grade When you equip this Devil's spirit, you will gain basic options(HP/MP) of your character. Also if you upgrade it, you can transform and able to use devil's power for limited time.
Eminent Devil's Spirit A grade When owner of devil's spirit can control Devil's power, owner can upgrade Devil's Spirit into Eminent Devil's Spirit. Eminent Devil's Spirit gives more power and ability to owner.
Overwhelming Devil's Spirit A grade When owner of devil's spirit can control Devil's power, owner can upgrade Devil's Spirit into Overwhelming Devil's Spirit. Overwhelming Devil's Spirit gives more power and ability to owner.
Devil's Spirit magicstone Magicstone for Devil's Spirit only. It will grant extra damage on unique monsters
Extension gear - 50 Silks Extension gear will extened awaken time period.
Have devil spirit with 3 color red, blue is Yellow, for top lv one other with S grade, after i go get more status. _________________________
attack + speed = skill cooldown of 30min is use 10min. hp/mp probability passive all time. _________________________
Cruor wrote:There are red, blue, and yellow versions. ________________________
There is no difference between colors. Only Item Mall Devil's Spirits are available in multiple colors.
Apparently transformation is only available after you upgrade it, and B grade Devil's Spirits cannot be upgraded:
When you equip this Devil's spirit, you will gain basic options(HP/MP) of your character. Also if you upgrade it, you can transform and able to use devil's power for limited time.
When owner of devil's spirit can control Devil's power, owner can upgrade Devil's Spirit into Eminent Devil's Spirit. Eminent Devil's Spirit gives more power and ability to owner.
When owner of devil's spirit can control Devil's power, owner can upgrade Devil's Spirit into Overwhelming Devil's Spirit. Overwhelming Devil's Spirit gives more power and ability to owner.
There is 'Extension gear' which can be purchased from the Item Mall:
Extension gear will extened awaken time period.
Also a magicstone for enhancing it which must be bought from the Item Mall:
Magicstone for Devil's Spirit only. It will grant extra damage on unique monsters
There will also be some sort of skills: They are called 'Destroy the Devil', 'Eccentric Demon', 'Mob Defense Ignore', and 'The Devil's Confusion'. Eccentric Demon seems to be available to B grade users.
Let me get this right, when you have it on, you get an automatic 15% hp and mp increase. Max upgrade gives it to 25%. These are the basic attributes meaning it stays on forever. But when you go zerk, your damage increase 20% and speed increase 10%. Max upgrade is 30% damage and 20% moving speed. Correct me if I'm wrong. These are the transformed attributes meaning only in zerk right? If so, this new avatar item would be really rigged in pvp and job wars...
Niani wrote:the transformation is seperate from zerk I think, so you can transform and zerk at the same time, for a 130% increase in power and 120% movement
They should stick it to zerk.. would be a lot better lol
From what i read here nobody gets the point of playing or the Free2Play games
actually all of you desire what will be your point of playing but becouse this forum is fill with some kids without even 18+ your point of playing is PVP,Fortres war and thats all... for those two things you must make strong character (this requers silk ,gold ,sp )why dont you stop thinking its awlays the PVP and FW kill monsters make quests party's and wtf some devils spirit i dont see someone using it that much infront DW the unbalanced sh1t that hapend was the euro buffs becouse DW is full of buffers and there is no real PVP this game got different system from World of Warcraft in WoW you pay to play and becouse of that there is no item mail here you first got the chance to play and see then if you want to pay or not ,, thats Free2Play
I see all of your points the bots and silk are making it hard for people who dont have money to spend ingame but think of it without item mail this game would be like WoW pay to play so its connected ... you pay and play equal you dont you become weaker
a big % of the people who pay for silk work job 8 hours a big % of the kids who not pay for silk dont work job 8 hours
this is why its made this way so to compensate the 8 hours those who work will spend from the real gained money and pay to get equal to the other players who got more time and not pay
the thing which unbalances this are the bots without them it will be mostly imposible to reach 120 level which will be the level max cap when the bots boost you to 120 level those who can buy silk become stronger then those who dont
in other words item mail is balancing the Older players at age over 18 with those below 18 the one work 8 hours and lose ingame time so with money they balance to catch up with those kids which dont have to work and if both sides reach 120 level the silk-players will got overpowered so its hard very hard without bots to reach 120 O_o with all the 5-6 milion SP you need to make so this is the real problem sorry it may be hard but try to understand what i am saying
Last edited by RORAMUS on Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
RORAMUS wrote:From what i read here nobody gets the point of playing or the Free2Play games
actually all of you desire what will be your point of playing but becouse this forum is fill with some kids without even 18+ your point of playing is PVP,Fortres war and thats all... for those two things you must make strong character (this requers silk ,gold ,sp )why dont you stop thinking its awlays the PVP and FW kill monsters make quests party's and wtf some devils spirit i dont see someone using it that much infront DW the unbalanced sh1t that hapend was the euro buffs becouse DW is full of buffers and there is no real PVP this game got different system from World of Warcraft in WoW you pay to play and becouse of that there is no item mail here you first got the chance to play and see then if you want to pay or not ,, thats Free2Play
I see all of your points the bots and silk are making it hard for people who dont have money to spend ingame but think of it without item mail this game would be like WoW pay to play so its connected ... you pay and play equal you dont you become weaker
a big % of the people who pay for silk work job 8 hours a big % of the kids who not pay for silk dont work job 8 hours
this is why its made this way so to compensate the 8 hours those who work will spend from the real gained money and pay to get equal to the other players who got more time and not pay
the thing which unbalances this are the bots without them it will be mostly imposible to reach 120 level which will be the level max cap when the bots boost you to 120 level those who can buy silk become stronger then those who dont
in other words item mail is balancing the Older players at age over 18 with those below 18 the one work 8 hours and lose ingame time so with money they balance to catch up with those kids which dont have to work and if both sides reach 120 level the silk-players will got overpowered so its hard very hard without bots to reach 120 O_o with all the 5-6 milion SP you need to make so this is the real problem sorry it may be hard but try to understand what i am saying
Yes the Item Mall helps make the game Free2Play (you don't have to purchase item mall items in order to play) but it doesn't balance out 18+ and 18-. Many adults have full time jobs, but most people under 18 (and a lot of them over 18) are full time students. When people with full time jobs get home from work, their day is essentially done for the most part. When kids get home from school, they still have homework or extra-curricular activities (sports and the like). So students don't have 'all the time in the world' to play.
We don't need bots to help us get to lvl 120. We can do it ourselves. Legit grinding parties can do a much better job leveling than bots can.
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RORAMUS wrote:From what i read here nobody gets the point of playing or the Free2Play games
actually all of you desire what will be your point of playing but becouse this forum is fill with some kids without even 18+ your point of playing is PVP,Fortres war and thats all... for those two things you must make strong character (this requers silk ,gold ,sp )why dont you stop thinking its awlays the PVP and FW kill monsters make quests party's and wtf some devils spirit i dont see someone using it that much infront DW the unbalanced sh1t that hapend was the euro buffs becouse DW is full of buffers and there is no real PVP this game got different system from World of Warcraft in WoW you pay to play and becouse of that there is no item mail here you first got the chance to play and see then if you want to pay or not ,, thats Free2Play
I see all of your points the bots and silk are making it hard for people who dont have money to spend ingame but think of it without item mail this game would be like WoW pay to play so its connected ... you pay and play equal you dont you become weaker
a big % of the people who pay for silk work job 8 hours a big % of the kids who not pay for silk dont work job 8 hours
this is why its made this way so to compensate the 8 hours those who work will spend from the real gained money and pay to get equal to the other players who got more time and not pay
the thing which unbalances this are the bots without them it will be mostly imposible to reach 120 level which will be the level max cap when the bots boost you to 120 level those who can buy silk become stronger then those who dont
in other words item mail is balancing the Older players at age over 18 with those below 18 the one work 8 hours and lose ingame time so with money they balance to catch up with those kids which dont have to work and if both sides reach 120 level the silk-players will got overpowered so its hard very hard without bots to reach 120 O_o with all the 5-6 milion SP you need to make so this is the real problem sorry it may be hard but try to understand what i am saying
You should be banned and shot in the crouch for reviving this topic 4 months after it was dead
I don't think you get RORAMUS' idea. It's not exactly the people under and over 18. It's like the people who have more and who have less time to play. And what he says is pretty interesting and true, but if you don;t agree to it no one can convince you.
RORAMUS wrote:Yes i agree totaly with PROMETHEUS and sorry for my offtopic ...
not only offtopic,you revive a topic which is prohibited,read the rule...............
You read the rules. He's continuing a conversation, this is ALLOWED. You on the other hand just made a bot accusation in a thread not far away. That IS against the rules.
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