Pure INT Bowers For the 100 Cap ???

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Pure INT Bowers For the 100 Cap ???

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pure int bowers used to be considered an overkill build for the previous caps, but what about the 100 cap?
u get back to back kb skills, but they will never be enough to get the kill if you are full STR.. so i was thinking a full int bower might be an ideal way to use ur new kb skills (and the other skills) , given that a bow's magical attack power outclasses its physical one by far.
so the final build would be full INT 100pach/100light/100cold..
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Nearly all Bow skills have Critical increases which leads me to believe It's a full STR weapon. I've heard a few people say they'd like to try pure INT bow, I'll never understand why. Oo

Hybrid in the right hands though can be deadly.

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well u still make use of the criticals.. extra damage is extra damage u know. a critting nuker wouldnt be a bad thing imo !
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I'd say a hybrid would be perfect for the build you described, pure INT's taking it a bit far. But that's just my opinion.

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Kb -> kb -> nuke x2 -> kb -> kb -> nuke etc...It could work I guess, but I think Chinese str char's will pot through it =/
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It's a interesting build, i've tryed it out myself, although you have to rely souly on your imbue for damage if don't have that skill on for the first part of an attack it effects the rest of it, like the 3-6 shot kb.

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Pure INT bow vs Pure STR bow. imo the STR bow would win. Hybrid would annihilate either as long as his crits take the opponent down before his snow drops, if the STR char snows too, you're dead.

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Evil Beast Sinnok's Bow

Weapon type: Bow
Degree: 9 degrees

Phy. attack power 899 ~ 1101 (0%)
Mag. attack power 1438 ~ 1762 (0%)
Durability 86/86 (0%)
Attack distance 18.0 m
Attack rating 124 (0%)
Critical 2 (0%)
Phy. reinforce 164.6% ~ 201.7% (0%)
Mag. reinforce 263.3% ~ 322.7% (0%)

Required level 85
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compare the attack and the reinforce values.. the difference is just too big. this thing was made to be an INT initially i guess..
the bow skills just wouldnt support an int b4
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I have a lvl 90 pure int bowman; if you know how to play it, it's pwnage :D
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Here's a glavie

Weapon type: Glaive
Degree: 9 degrees

Phy. attack power 993 ~ 1214 (0%)
Mag. attack power 1483 ~ 1766 (0%)
Durability 84/84 (0%)
Attack distance 1.8 m
Attack rating 124 (0%)
Critical 2 (0%)
Phy. reinforce 181.9% ~ 222.3% (0%)
Mag. reinforce 271.6% ~ 323.4% (0%)

Required level 85
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Basically the same but bow is a little better on magical attack so in your theory all STR weapons could be used for a pure INT? imo bows the btter build for a hybrid, nowhere near pure INT. Infact even hybrid I'd lay it more on the STR side.

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heroo wrote:I have a lvl 90 pure int bowman; if you know how to play it, it's pwnage :D

i'm not really sure about the build for the 90 cap.. i mean its a little bit too fragile. at least the spear nukers have thier hp increase and the s/s nukers have thier shields and passives.
but in the 100 cap its a different story.. being able to use kbs in conjunction with nukes just soulds crazy
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Well It'd give weak spear INT's something to kill I suppose, with there magical buff they'd easily tank your nukes and drop you once your snows gone.

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ahmedsabry wrote:
heroo wrote:I have a lvl 90 pure int bowman; if you know how to play it, it's pwnage :D

i'm not really sure about the build for the 90 cap.. i mean its a little bit too fragile. at least the spear nukers have thier hp increase and the s/s nukers have thier shields and passives.
but in the 100 cap its a different story.. being able to use kbs in conjunction with nukes just soulds crazy


well right now they almost can't get near me: kb + stun + ghost walk pahntom

and when they're stunned, you nuke them twice, then quickly use ghost walk phantom and kb them > start all over again :P
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Phaidra wrote:Nearly all Bow skills have Critical increases which leads me to believe It's a full STR weapon. I've heard a few people say they'd like to try pure INT bow, I'll never understand why. Oo

Hybrid in the right hands though can be deadly.


Where did I read that pure Int's do bigger critical than full Str?

XMoshe wrote:Kb -> kb -> nuke x2 -> kb -> kb -> nuke etc...It could work I guess, but I think Chinese str char's will pot through it =/


StrongBow = Same damage as nuke for full Int Bow, tested on Kei (lv.90 int bow on Hercules)
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But doesn't adding STR increase chance of critical more with every STR point?

I've never even seen a pure INT bow on Sparta I'm just going off what I know about the skills and game, but who knows maybe it is a good build. You'd heavily rely on snow though and I'm guessing if a 2H could get anywhere near you for the KB you'd be dead even with snow on.

Maybe bow is meant to be the all round weapon.

Bicheon = Blade for STR and Sword for INT
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Pacheon = the all round weapon?

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Where do you get the str = more often crit? Str only increases the crit dmg since a crit is double the phy dmg O_o
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Phaidra wrote:But doesn't adding STR increase chance of critical more with every STR point?

As far as I know, STR or INT points have no effect on how often you crit.
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Shadow wrote:
Phaidra wrote:But doesn't adding STR increase chance of critical more with every STR point?

As far as I know, STR or INT points have no effect on how often you crit.


Then it only proves further that It's an all round weapon, imo It'd still be better as full STR or a hybrid.

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omg wat a noob :banghead:
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BalkanFanaticS wrote:omg wat a noob :banghead: because builds like these are too narrowed in focus, where the game is and will be very heavily revolving around teamplay. What will your pure int bow do being hit from behind by a rogue whilst distracted (even with snow shield)? At least s/s has a shield, and spear has some extra hp... and why do I have the feeling of having words put into my mouth?!?!

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I don't think pure int is that good, but maybe a 5-10 lvls of str and the rest int might be better
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Pure Int Bow is just an upgraded version of Pure STR Nuker

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100 pacheon 100 fire 100 force for 100 cap will be kick ass..
kb kb debuff debuff kb kb 2skills ,if crits he is dead, if not - keep trying :D

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Phaidra wrote:
Shadow wrote:
Phaidra wrote:But doesn't adding STR increase chance of critical more with every STR point?

As far as I know, STR or INT points have no effect on how often you crit.


Then it only proves further that It's an all round weapon, imo It'd still be better as full STR or a hybrid.

maybe a hybrid towards the INT side then.. like 3:1 or 7:1 int being the first digit..
still even if what nitro said is true about Strongbow dealing as much damage as a nuke (which i highly doubt or else STR bowmen would basically be full str nukers, having the same damage and range) still the idea of back to back kbs that actually deals damage is my point..
i dont have a damage formula to calculate this, but u can imagine something that will be stronger than the wizards "charged squall" which happens to be deadly btw.
wizards cant cast "charged wind" and "charged squall" back to back or they would have been unkillable.. while int bowmen can. plz just get out of the cocoon of "Zomg this is a noob build lawl roflmao" and start realising the possibilities.
finally for those saying this build has limited party play potential.. all ill say is "this thing has nukes -.-"
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ahmedsabry wrote:Then it only proves further that It's an all round weapon, imo It'd still be better as full STR or a hybrid.
maybe a hybrid towards the INT side then.. like 3:1 or 7:1 int being the first digit..
still even if what nitro said is true about Strongbow dealing as much damage as a nuke (which i highly doubt or else STR bowmen would basically be full str nukers, having the same damage and range) still the idea of back to back kbs that actually deals damage is my point..
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I think he meant that on a full int the damage of strongbow and nuke is the same

The max an str bow could do with a strongbow is 20k if it's a crit (and i think the guy i saw doing that was Lv. 100)
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I have to point out that when comparing damage dealt, it is just as important to reference what it is that is being targeted. It isn't enough to compare absolute maximum damage per level on neutral targets (for example a Mangyang) and I'll let you figure out why.
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JoyFax wrote:****
The max an str bow could do with a strongbow is 20k if it's a crit (and i think the guy i saw doing that was Lv. 100)

Im now lvl79 and full int bow.(gap 0)

Str bow crits on niya mages 20-21k
Lightning does at most 18k
Average damage is 16.5-17.5k (light nuke/str bow)
But im using my d9+5 som bow, dont boo me :p
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mind bow3+mindbow2+light3+light2, at the end are str bow or devil bow berserk with his fine attack rate increase + AoE damage or str bow for sniping.
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STR bows are already easy as **** to kill. Why on earth would you make an int bow? Might as well make an int rogue, see how long that lasts in pvp. Even with snow shield, an int bow would be way to easy.

Besides, bows crit hard as hell, why take that away? Without crits, bows are weak. They rely on them soooo heavily its ridiculous.
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Stephanus wrote:
JoyFax wrote:****
The max an str bow could do with a strongbow is 20k if it's a crit (and i think the guy i saw doing that was Lv. 100)

Im now lvl79 and full int bow.(gap 0)

Str bow crits on niya mages 20-21k
Lightning does at most 18k
Average damage is 16.5-17.5k (light nuke/str bow)
But im using my d9+5 som bow, dont boo me :p
I use trigger scrolls + blue hawk attack rating buff for maxed damage.


I was talking about pvp so I guess the defence of the glavier also interfeered ^^

I made some chars never got them to real high lvl because I get borred of them, because I used to make the known good at pvp builds and those builds are usually used by a lot of people...

In conclusion I think int bow is not the best build arround but it's by far as worst as some people say it is.
Seems to be a fun build too.
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