1v1. PvP. blade vs. glavie. Who wins? No-one say pot battle!

[aezo]

Meh it totally depend! on weapon armors , im a blader i can win glavie ,bow
and i lose sometime . most of the time pot battle glive will win deal to low hp
so it all depend~

CuChuLain u my idol i love ur guild~! but im playing in babel lol

[Keihou]

so keihou you are seriously gonna sit there and play your goddam nub blader till the glaive runs out of pots ? What's that for an amazingly gay strategy ?
It's like who's noob has to be smart.
You are truly admitting the noobness of the blader. IT CAN'T KILL !
it TANKS, that's it.
It's no fun to play like a madman just to drown someones pots.
And if I would really compete in a real ' tourny' then I'd be sure to get me some 1000 hp packs. I will never run out of pots.
With that I will never lose from a blader , the way YOU say it. Cause you say it's all about them pots.
And your dumb pvp stories are just plain b/s too. Perhaps you never pvp, who knows ?

i don't care if you believe me about what i've done, i've killed glaviers without them running out of pots and with them running out of pots. You can continue to think glavie is king, go ahead. the day will come when u get owned and i want to see the expression on your fac ethen

/change subject.
You just got selfowned by your dumb pot message. No1 is gonna run out of pots in a tourny.
And I have never said glavie is king. I have only pointed out that the blader in every scenario is not.
If you'd ask me what the best build is then I'd say none. It all comes down to your gear. But fire/light sword hybrid is high on my list.

I jus self owned? ok then what did you just do? noone is gonna run out of pots in a tourny? I wonder how those bladers are winning those tourny then, guess what I said is true and bladers can defeat glavie without them running out of pot.

You really should just stop.

[Amps]

Its a pot battle, completely. Im a fire blader and i havent been beaten by a glaiver but i always have +3 equipment and play smart (KD as soon as a soul spear is coming).

Im not sure, but i think it mainly depends on equipment and pots when it comes down to fighting.

Also, people alwyas go on about crit in glaives but fail to remember that high crit bladers are deadly. Many times my blade has critted on 2nd knockdown then stab. After that happens, its all over

[Keihou]

Its a pot battle, completely. Im a fire blader and i havent been beaten by a glaiver but i always have +3 equipment and play smart (KD as soon as a soul spear is coming).

Im not sure, but i think it mainly depends on equipment and pots when it comes down to fighting.

Also, people alwyas go on about crit in glaives but fail to remember that high crit bladers are deadly. Many times my blade has critted on 2nd knockdown then stab. After that happens, its all over

You must be lying becaue it's not possible for a blader to beat a glavie, crit or no crit!! why>? caue woutr said so

[Kew]

some questions from me, who never played a blader

can the different books of knowckdown be chained after each other. i mean, if one of them fails, can u try with another one?

are the lower books still affective at all at higher lvls?

isnt 50%chance a bit too much? (dont flame this one plz, its a honest question)

i often see how blader stabs a knocked down guy just when he stood up. is this when they use 2 of these stabs?
like Flower bloom blade + Flower bud blade (or even more likely that double stab)

Down-attack damage 50% increase - not sure what this means. can you use this skill even on a stading enemy? but you only get the 50%+ when hes on the ground?

sry if this all is 'basic wisdom'. as i pointed out, i never played a blader. i made my char and stick to him

[Keihou]

some questions from me, who never played a blader

can the different books of knowckdown be chained after each other. i mean, if one of them fails, can u try with another one?

are the lower books still affective at all at higher lvls?

isnt 50%chance a bit too much? (dont flame this one plz, its a honest question)

i often see how blader stabs a knocked down guy just when he stood up. is this when they use 2 of these stabs?
like Flower bloom blade + Flower bud blade (or even more likely that double stab)

Down-attack damage 50% increase - not sure what this means. can you use this skill even on a stading enemy? but you only get the 50%+ when hes on the ground?

sry if this all is 'basic wisdom'. as i pointed out, i never played a blader. i made my char and stick to him

Yes different books of KD can be chained together and yes at high levels maxed book 2 is almost just as good as book 3(last book)

While the opponent is on the ground you can use up to two books of stabs befor he gets up. book 1 and book 2 befor lvl 68. Once you're level 68 and you get 3rd book you use book 3 and then book 2. Also you can only stab while they're on the ground.

[woutR]

Its a pot battle, completely. Im a fire blader and i havent been beaten by a glaiver but i always have +3 equipment and play smart (KD as soon as a soul spear is coming).

Im not sure, but i think it mainly depends on equipment and pots when it comes down to fighting.

Also, people alwyas go on about crit in glaives but fail to remember that high crit bladers are deadly. Many times my blade has critted on 2nd knockdown then stab. After that happens, its all over

You must be lying becaue it's not possible for a blader to beat a glavie, crit or no crit!! why>? caue woutr said so

ooh come , don't be so amazingly lame.
You have no arguments , nothing. All you have is your korean fairytales and your own pvp life.
You have already admitted that the blader can only drown ones pots.
It is really a gay concept what you're bazzling about. Blader is too noob to kill so just gonna drown pots. You must be having great fun

[woutR]

Guess who runs out of pots first =P thats right the glavies! guess what happens when you run out of pots! YOU DIE.

now after that , when I told you no1 is gonna run out of pots because of itemmal mr bladerfanboy changed it into:

I wonder how those bladers are winning those tourny then, guess what I said is true and bladers can defeat glavie without them running out of pot.

yeh right , so first they win because the bladers are gonna drown pots. But oh no , a day later they will win without drowning pots and will rape the glaviers.
Just go tank and su
okithxbai

[IguanaRampage]

well glavie is probably most popular because of training speed and its good at pvp, but not many bladers so at least u got a chance to be unique-ish with blade Seriously though i wonder about this whole fire shield thing... does silkroad mind having glaviers able to use fire shield? Because the fire shield description says "...infused in the shield..." not in the person. So it seems to me like they meant it to go away when shield is unequipped. What do u guys think?

[arretjescake]

Guess who runs out of pots first =P thats right the glavies! guess what happens when you run out of pots! YOU DIE.

now after that , when I told you no1 is gonna run out of pots because of itemmal mr bladerfanboy changed it into:

I wonder how those bladers are winning those tourny then, guess what I said is true and bladers can defeat glavie without them running out of pot.

yeh right , so first they win because the bladers are gonna drown pots. But oh no , a day later they will win without drowning pots and will rape the glaviers.
Just go tank and su
okithxbai

HAHAHAH OWNED !
+5

[vanom]

since i played both chars, i think i can give some fertile opinions.

blader:
knockdown and stabbing, nothing else. when blader fails in knockdown, they suck. cuz just dam of knockdown is too less, so they need stabbing.

glavie:
stun is ur friend. if u can stun ur opponent, u deal massige damage to him, while he can do nothing. but recently i observed, that u still can pot while ur stunned -.-.


it's right, that a full str blader hardly can be killed. except the glavie crits 3 times in a raw. but with the new alchemy system many things have changed. blader gets +100 crit parry on his shield and everything's fine. but glavie can add block parry thing on his weapon, means, blader will block less. but i mentioned b4, that blader needs to stab to kill, otherwise he will win becuz of pots. they need to stab and to crit. glavie or any other char can use shield, while he's lying on his back. a good shield with crit parry will prevent u from many stabs and crits. so blader can't deal damage everytime and crits much lesser.

conclusion: crit parry helps both, block parry helps both --> draw. but the fact, that glavie or any other build can switch to shield, while they're lying on their backs is gonna breack the neck of bladers. cuz they won't crit that much and stab that much -.-, means, glavie has more advantage.

but in the end blader will still win, cuz of pots. but that's kinda boring and if u do job or guild wars, blader's gonna suck hell, cuz they only can use chains, which can be potted like nothing -.-.

[Mephiste]

From 41-57 its really a pot fight/blade wins... from 58-68 its really a pot fight/glaive wins from what I know.

[superblur]

woutR

please explain to me how bladers are "noobs" because the way the game is set up and they cant kill pur strs... please just clarify how this makes you a noob..?.... you cant?... okay...

and the fact that you think bladers cant kill glaivers...
ever heard of phunky?... overkills?....weedmaster?... the list goes on...

and im taking it that you have never built a decent level blader because of the way you speak of them... it just shows your ignorance...

and if you have.... then im sorry to say... but you are the "noob" for being so closed minded...

it all comes down to gear... i give the advantage to the blader because of the shield... you may say that glaivers can have a sheild too.... so what... they dont have the block passive and wont block nearly as much...

all equips being equal - its a pot fight... end of story... glaivers wont be able to touch a blader because of KD... bladers wont be able to kill the glaiver because... well.... theyre a blader... simple as that...

BTW... best PvPer on Xian right now is phunky.... a glavier... who switched to blade...

*food for thought*

[Mephiste]

The only time a blader has killed me in a fair fight is when they got 2 crits in a row with an SOM blade (Sh4dO).

[klaus]

Wow so many glavie fanboys on this forum its sickening.




Saying glavie beat blade in a 1 on 1 fight is laughable, seriously it really is. There is a reason Bladers have won every single 1 on 1 korean tourny. Why do you think that is? hmm maybe because bladers are tanks and in a 1 on 1 fight they can out last any other charecter. You guys do realize with knockdowns and stabs + high block the blader will hit the glavie almost double the amount of times the glavie can hit the blader. Guess who runs out of pots first =P thats right the glavies! guess what happens when you run out of pots! YOU DIE.

I'm a lvl 67 full str blader and I can honestly say i've only lost to 1 glavie my level and that was because he had really nice gear and I was using combos like a dumb ass (was trying a different strat) using knockdowns that same glavie couldn't defeat me.

On the other hand i've killed a handful of glavies my level and i've even tanked a lvl 64+ glavie at lvl 66 while he was in zerk! he zerked and still couldn't kill me! I suggest you fanboys don't take blader lightly, if any of you are in xian I dare you to proove how glavie "owns" I'll put you on your back. With my critical 100 shield we could fight for an hour and you will most likely still not get 2 crits in a row on me. No way you going to kill me.

a blader will run out of mp pots first than he kill the glaiver
lol do u know how much hp a glaiver lvl 90 have?
try kill that with the poor damage of blader

its a pot war
so stop saying this or that is better

[Mephiste]

Nah, if the glaiver/blader gets multiple crits it will change the tide...

[arretjescake]

woutR

please explain to me how bladers are "noobs" because the way the game is set up and they cant kill pur strs... please just clarify how this makes you a noob..?.... you cant?... okay...

and the fact that you think bladers cant kill glaivers...
ever heard of phunky?... overkills?....weedmaster?... the list goes on...

and im taking it that you have never built a decent level blader because of the way you speak of them... it just shows your ignorance...

and if you have.... then im sorry to say... but you are the "noob" for being so closed minded...

it all comes down to gear... i give the advantage to the blader because of the shield... you may say that glaivers can have a sheild too.... so what... they dont have the block passive and wont block nearly as much...

all equips being equal - its a pot fight... end of story... glaivers wont be able to touch a blader because of KD... bladers wont be able to kill the glaiver because... well.... theyre a blader... simple as that...

BTW... best PvPer on Xian right now is phunky.... a glavier... who switched to blade...

*food for thought*

first of all woutR doesn't post here. I'm here for about 3 weeks and I already know that.
Second, he doesn't say that. He says what a blader can. Which is tank. Apperently in his opinion a tank is no good and you should be able to kill.
Now as for phunky I've only seen movies and heard stories about how good he can TANK that's not killing.
And you already said that the blader can't kill the glaive. However with the proper crits a glaive will kill the blader.
From my own experience vs bladers is that they can knock u down for all they want, stab you as hard as they can. They wont kill me.
Conclusion= Blader wont kill. Glaive will kill with luck. BUT, and that's a big BUT. A blader is not capable of killing many builds. So little damage.
In the end he will kill, but it takes so long with a blader.
So blader for tank and glaive for kill.

* big ass lunch for thought *

[superblur]

about the phunky comment...

yes he can kill... but he is known for tanking...

in the video... he took out 4 or 5 people on xlaw....

and wow... they were glaives...and they were also 69+

conclusion= a blader can kill

and glaives are the only thing that a blader cannot take down all gear being equal... and a glaiver wont kill the blader either...

a blader will run out of mp pots first than he kill the glaiver
lol do u know how much hp a glaiver lvl 90 have?
try kill that with the poor damage of blader

uhh... the same as a blader....?

wtf does MP have to do with this?

anyways "a low mp guy will use just as much mp pots as a high mp guy"

i think how much a pot recovers has to do with your balance... but im not sure... either way both bladers have a glaiver have the same mag balance... so it doesnt matter even if it were true...

[Avalanche]

If SS crit, oh man. That is half their life right there.

[cuchulainn]

If SS crit, oh man. That is half their life right there.

Depends. A Crit on both hits of SSS would hurt, but a glaive needs at least 2 crits in a row to kill a blader.

[IguanaRampage]

a blader will run out of mp pots first than he kill the glaiver
lol do u know how much hp a glaiver lvl 90 have?
try kill that with the poor damage of blader

its a pot war
so stop saying this or that is better

A lot of it is pot war, but its also luck. If SSS crits, glavier has advantage, but if the next GSM or SSS is blocked its even again! Do you know how much a power a 9th/10th degree SOS blade or glavie has? Of course you dont. They're not out yet. Even if you were on ksro, I doubt you have actually used those weapons. So you shouldnt talk about what WILL happen, as much as what IS happening. It will take a long time for bladers and glaviers to kill each other 1v1, and most of the time at later lvls I doubt all the initial 1v1 battles will remain 1v1 very long. I think there will be some more alchemy updates coming up favoring bladers but we'll see...

[sa0]

I love how most of the bladers say they usually beat glaives lol, but most of the glaives say they usually beat bladers.

[Sublimo]

I think that is basically depends on the equipment. Though it's also majorly luck based (would the shield block or not?). It also depends on what force masteries they both have.

Or just think of it this way: Who will win if non of them uses potions.

but that's just the opinion of a beginner

[Atsushi]

It is entirely dependant on the player. The build doesn't make the player, the player makes the build.

A player with the best gear can still be beat by someone with average gear if they aren't that good at playing their class or understanding the person they are fighting against.

[arretjescake]

superblur your asking things to forummembers that aint here.
I responded in the spirit of woutR since it wasn't hard to read over his posts and then to clearify that to you.

Obviously the MP was meant as HP, I didn't post it but hey, I can think beyond the box, unlike others...
at lv 90 a full + str blader has about 21k hp. A glaiver wont be above that much since the blader can get +5 strength on the shield too, whereas a glaiver can't.
However the crits from ss ( NOT SSS ) go for 10k+. Maybe you don't know but a knockback from a ghost spear does more damage. A knockback with crit, that hurts like hell. It's the most powerfull a glaive can do. At lv 90 it will hit for 13k +.
You know, 13/10k aren't potted away like nothing. Not even vigor can help you from that.

[Deadly EYez]

Keihou: Don't bother your self man.
I agree with you in all you said, but i am not going to start a fight with Glavie Lovers..
Just leave it as it is and someday they can tell if a blader can kill them or not.
For me at my level 56..
I can beat a glavie but will take a longtime, maybe because i am with 5 levels gap and my shity blade, but they can kill me i think if they have a better glavie.
I love blade skills and the fact that i can fight a level 60 and will give him a hard time to kill me.
I love when glavier start whinning about that i keep knocking them down and stabing and start calling me gay noob, because they can't addmit it that a blader is as good as a glavier or better if they have the same gear.
str vs str is always pots fight, and bladers are the best in it because they use less pots .
Thats what i think...
and for who said that in the video blader was using armor and glavier using garmant.
Hmm did you see the glavier hit the blader? he didn't even get the chance to hit..

[ShizKnight]

I love these fanboy threads where everyone defends their own weapon.

BOTH WEAPONS ARE SUITED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. They cannot be compared. Its like apples and bananas.

[Lance]

blade because 64 blade looks hooooot

down to equipment like 234534534 people have said..

64 Sos +9 blade+ sos + 9 shield BR 20 vs 64 glaive +1 who do you think ?

[Deadly EYez]

I love these fanboy threads where everyone defends their own weapon.

BOTH WEAPONS ARE SUITED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. They cannot be compared. Its like apples and bananas.

I am not defending my weapon, i made this blader after i knew these facts.
I was hybird full int and after i saw 2 glaviers fighting 1 blader all level 70 and the blader kill them both i made this char and i am happy with it.
I don't give a dam if you like it or what.
i am just replying to the person who made this post and giving him my point of veiw.

One think i know most bladers in SRO are nubs keep using chains to look flashy and everyone watch them dancing in pvp.
But for me i don't care, as long as i am having fun as a blader i don't give a shit if i can kill a glavier or not.

[ShizKnight]

I love these fanboy threads where everyone defends their own weapon.

BOTH WEAPONS ARE SUITED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. They cannot be compared. Its like apples and bananas.

I am not defending my weapon, i made this blader after i knew these facts.
I was hybird full int and after i saw 2 glaviers fighting 1 blader all level 70 and the blader kill them both i made this char and i am happy with it.
I don't give a dam if you like it or what.
i am just replying to the person who made this post and giving him my point of veiw.

One think i know most bladers in SRO are nubs keep using chains to look flashy and everyone watch them dancing in pvp.
But for me i don't care, as long as i am having fun as a blader i don't give a shit if i can kill a glavier or not.

Never said YOU were.