As the 25th fortress war nears, its interesting to take a look back and see how the fortress changed. At first, people were complaining that it was "too hard" to take the fortress, yet every server but 1 has been taken countless times. Heres a few stats to compare.
Longest Cumulative Hold:
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First Place: (Venus)Avalon - 46 weeks+ Second Place: (Persia)Genesis - 32 weeks+ Second Place: (Rome)Reborn - 32 weeks Third Place: (Xian)_Wazzup_ - 32 weeks Third Place: (Alps)TearDrop - 30 weeks Third Place: (RedSea)_Evolution_ - 30 weeks Third Place: (Sparta)divinE - 30 weeks
Most Turnovers:
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First Place: Tibet - 8 turnovers Second Place: Aege, Zeus, Mercury, Saturn - 6 turnovers Third Place: Olympus, Alexander, Poseidon, Mars, Uranus - 5 turnovers
Least Turnovers:
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First Place: Venus - 0 turnovers Second Place: Xian, Venice, Greece, Alps, Babel, Rome, Sparta, Hercules - 2 turnovers Third Place: Athens, RedSea, Odin - 3 turnovers
Total turnovers : 110 Total wars : 696 Average chance of a turnover : 15.80%
I'll add more later
Last edited by Argonaut on Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:06 pm, edited 2 times in total.
imagine Avalon keeps the FW till 100 caps. At 100 cap JG is where all the high level bots fill up on pots and stuff. Mass bling bling is gonna be there.
Gz Avalon !!
[Epic Beard Man] wrote:You gonna get a Vietnam now mother, and i whipped his butt so fast and so quick, so pretty. I hit him with the Muhammad Ali left, right, left. I did the Ali shuffle!
A couple of peeps from Odin and Athens, one guy from Eos, and a few random people who jump on the anti-Avalon bandwagon - and voila! We have another flame fest!
OT: The Venus fortress will remain with Avalon until a legit guild takes it. In Venus, botters cannot take it not only because they really can't but also because they don't want to. They're boycotting FW as if it makes us butt-hurt if they don't show up.
Tasdik wrote:Did Avalon not control the FW the first week? Was this due to everyone being nabs at the time?
yes, everyone was low level, the server was like 2-3 weeks old. Low level vs low level = Fair fight. Its not because server was new that Avalon got the FW, its cuz we own
Saman wrote:no, they pot in hotan and teleport then
Can anyone confirm that ?
[Epic Beard Man] wrote:You gonna get a Vietnam now mother, and i whipped his butt so fast and so quick, so pretty. I hit him with the Muhammad Ali left, right, left. I did the Ali shuffle!
Tasdik wrote:Did Avalon not control the FW the first week? Was this due to everyone being nabs at the time?
yes, everyone was low level, the server was like 2-3 weeks old. Low level vs low level = Fair fight. Its not because server was new that Avalon got the FW, its cuz we own
Saman wrote:no, they pot in hotan and teleport then
Can anyone confirm that ?
10k in teleport is cheaper then 20% taxes on pots, even worse i heard that although higher lvl pots will be in jangang there will not be bolts available making it pointless for rogues to set as their home
A man once said, "Fear is contagious". So then the same must hold true for courage. The Roar of a Crowd begins with one man.
A couple of peeps from Odin and Athens, one guy from Eos, and a few random people who jump on the anti-Avalon bandwagon - and voila! We have another flame fest!
OT: The Venus fortress will remain with Avalon until a legit guild takes it. In Venus, botters cannot take it not only because they really can't but also because they don't want to. They're boycotting FW as if it makes us butt-hurt if they don't show up.
I still don't see why FW owners have to be so greedy. You get gold regardless. Might as well make the tax -20% to make ppl support you and to bring ppl to your town.
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Goseki wrote:I still don't see why FW owners have to be so greedy. You get gold regardless. Might as well make the tax -20% to make ppl support you and to bring ppl to your town.
If you were in charge of the Fortress what would you do?
A couple of peeps from Odin and Athens, one guy from Eos, and a few random people who jump on the anti-Avalon bandwagon - and voila! We have another flame fest!
OT: The Venus fortress will remain with Avalon until a legit guild takes it. In Venus, botters cannot take it not only because they really can't but also because they don't want to. They're boycotting FW as if it makes us butt-hurt if they don't show up.
never get too cocky, if you underestimate an enemy they will beat you when you least expect it, I'm still not sure why they decided to boycott the fort war, but what ever, the biggest problem with fort war is the worst time they could pick, bad for every one every where, the original time would have been nice (firday afternoons) then got moved (if you remember the orignal news things joymax said about fortwar, then they decided to move it before the 1st war ever happened) to 4 am thrusdays because its according to joymax the best time some how based on how many people loged in, i think they just tried to find the worst time they could so no one any where could easily get on to every war, if they were smart and their not it would have been on the weekend
A man once said, "Fear is contagious". So then the same must hold true for courage. The Roar of a Crowd begins with one man.
I really don't care for FW statistics, as it is shit anyway Why? simple. FW is held at a ridiculous moment. If 1/10 of high lvl players are able to make it, it is much For West-Europeans (Spain, Portugal, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland, France, Denmark,.....) It takes place from 11h - 13h OR 12h - 14h (winter/summer time pending). I believe 85% of the people are then at work or school. Even Turks & Egys have trouble going to FW...
Trust me, if it would be in the weekend (& then the time really isn't a big factor; only server traffic could be a bitch); Fortress will fall in many servers. My guess: if FW changes to the weekend; Avalon will lose the Fortress.
Razorhead wrote:I really don't care for FW statistics, as it is shit anyway Why? simple. FW is held at a ridiculous moment. If 1/10 of high lvl players are able to make it, it is much For West-Europeans (Spain, Portugal, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland, France, Denmark,.....) It takes place from 11h - 13h OR 12h - 14h (winter/summer time pending). I believe 85% of the people are then at work or school. Even Turks & Egys have trouble going to FW...
Trust me, if it would be in the weekend (& then the time really isn't a big factor; only server traffic could be a bitch); Fortress will fall in many servers. My guess: if FW changes to the weekend; Avalon will lose the Fortress.
it would definitely make it harder for Avalon.. but it would also mean more Avalon players on too
Razorhead wrote:I really don't care for FW statistics, as it is shit anyway Why? simple. FW is held at a ridiculous moment. If 1/10 of high lvl players are able to make it, it is much For West-Europeans (Spain, Portugal, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland, France, Denmark,.....) It takes place from 11h - 13h OR 12h - 14h (winter/summer time pending). I believe 85% of the people are then at work or school. Even Turks & Egys have trouble going to FW...
Trust me, if it would be in the weekend (& then the time really isn't a big factor; only server traffic could be a bitch); Fortress will fall in many servers. My guess: if FW changes to the weekend; Avalon will lose the Fortress.
Doubt it. Maybe a while back it could be possible when there were 4+ bot unions, but now theres only 1 left.
If no one shows up maybe, we've fought off 100+ people with barley 3 parties. Probably more because it reached the 300 limit. There's a huge difference when no one can outside buff and all are equally kill-able.
Looks like Tibet has a lot of action or owners that don't really care to hold it
I got a shitty computer so keeping Fort at 100 will be a godsend. Can't stand going to hotan
If it's ever moved to a decent time it would just be like it was months ago but with way more defenders. I don't see why people don't try and make a effort to go even at a bad time it's the only new unique battle system in the game that can't really be exploited by lame outside buffers.
Tasdik wrote:Did Avalon not control the FW the first week? Was this due to everyone being nabs at the time?
yes, everyone was low level, the server was like 2-3 weeks old. Low level vs low level = Fair fight. Its not because server was new that Avalon got the FW, its cuz we own
Saman wrote:no, they pot in hotan and teleport then
Can anyone confirm that ?
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Corrupt wrote:If no one shows up maybe, we've fought off 100+ people with barley 3 parties. Probably more because it reached the 300 limit. There's a huge difference when no one can outside buff and all are equally kill-able.
Looks like Tibet has a lot of action or owners that don't really care to hold it
I got a shitty computer so keeping Fort at 100 will be a godsend. Can't stand going to hotan
If it's ever moved to a decent time it would just be like it was months ago but with way more defenders. I don't see why people don't try and make a effort to go even at a bad time it's the only new unique battle system in the game that can't really be exploited by lame outside buffers.
cause people don't want to get fired or fail a class
A man once said, "Fear is contagious". So then the same must hold true for courage. The Roar of a Crowd begins with one man.
Yeah, but thats with all the buffs. My gear wasnt fully blued at the moment of the ss so im pretty sure i could reach higher now.
[Epic Beard Man] wrote:You gonna get a Vietnam now mother, and i whipped his butt so fast and so quick, so pretty. I hit him with the Muhammad Ali left, right, left. I did the Ali shuffle!
Corrupt wrote:If no one shows up maybe, we've fought off 100+ people with barley 3 parties. Probably more because it reached the 300 limit. There's a huge difference when no one can outside buff and all are equally kill-able.
Looks like Tibet has a lot of action or owners that don't really care to hold it
I got a shitty computer so keeping Fort at 100 will be a godsend. Can't stand going to hotan
If it's ever moved to a decent time it would just be like it was months ago but with way more defenders. I don't see why people don't try and make a effort to go even at a bad time it's the only new unique battle system in the game that can't really be exploited by lame outside buffers.
cause people don't want to get fired or fail a class
I guess foudre says it all Sro is not worth failing classes or getting fired from work (or take "off" from work)
Ow & for Venus: With 1 bot uni left, what is there to fight about... From what I read on srf, Venus seems more boring by the day
Corrupt wrote:If no one shows up maybe, we've fought off 100+ people with barley 3 parties. Probably more because it reached the 300 limit. There's a huge difference when no one can outside buff and all are equally kill-able.
Looks like Tibet has a lot of action or owners that don't really care to hold it
I got a shitty computer so keeping Fort at 100 will be a godsend. Can't stand going to hotan
If it's ever moved to a decent time it would just be like it was months ago but with way more defenders. I don't see why people don't try and make a effort to go even at a bad time it's the only new unique battle system in the game that can't really be exploited by lame outside buffers.
cause people don't want to get fired or fail a class
I guess foudre says it all Sro is not worth failing classes or getting fired from work (or take "off" from work)
Ow & for Venus: With 1 bot uni left, what is there to fight about... From what I read on srf, Venus seems more boring by the day
Depends on how you define boring. People to talk to plus overflowing party grinding = boring? As opposed to the norm, which is afk grinding plus crap parties that still amount to be about the same exp as soloing, so everyone grinds afk anyways? I don't see how people find a game with interaction more boring then a game where everyone is always afk. xP Come to venus for the real SRO experience.