90 light/90cold/90fire????

[willieb3]

is this good for a pure int nuker s/s? like i get snowshield 50% and imbue for fire and ligh for power nukes and lion shouts

[thechampion80]

good for pve, sucks at solo pvp

[Bop]

if you wanna go pure nuker with no wep tree and still be "good" in solo pvp go light/cold/force, most retards at dw south dont carry around special pills , but if you wanna be the ultimate damage nuker go fire/light/force

[willieb3]

force? lmao i dont think i wanna go force.. like fire is a good addition becuase of high powered nukes mag defense imbue and fire wall

see the plan was to put snow shield on and then use fire wall to shield me while my snow shield was recharging i dk if it will work but im hoping

[KsqueaKJ]

this is a really good build, if you know what ur doing and how ur doing it , it can be good at pvp too.

[tedtwilliger]

Excels at group pvp

[BabyBoy]

I don't see how this build has any real benefit in group PVP. Sure it does more damage and has more nukes, but if thats all you want than just go wizard =\

Sure this build is better at soloing and i guess you could argue that it tanks to a greater extent with snow shield on, but personally i think wizard invis attack > snow shield especially in group PVP. Seriously, wizard has invis and with a cleric sub it has a tanking ability, and further more wizards can teleport away, and the pot delay that Europeans have are solved once they self heal and recovery division. Perhaps if European race wasn't around this would be different, but really if all this build is good at is group PVP i think its a huge waste of a character.

[tedtwilliger]

Compared to any other chinese nuker they have the advantage. In a good group pvp you will always be nuking. Fire nukes with light buffs and cold for defense gives you the optimal efficiency for this. Drop fire for a weapon and you lose the best nukes. Drop light for a weapon and you lose your mag increase. Drop cold for a weapon and you lose your snow shield and defensive buffs. Thus, no weapon skill nuker > other chinese based nukers in a group pvp situation.

[BabyBoy]

Compared to any other chinese nuker they have the advantage. In a good group pvp you will always be nuking. Fire nukes with light buffs and cold for defense gives you the optimal efficiency for this. Drop fire for a weapon and you lose the best nukes. Drop light for a weapon and you lose your mag increase. Drop cold for a weapon and you lose your snow shield and defensive buffs. Thus, no weapon skill nuker > other chinese based nukers in a group pvp situation.

I most certainly agree that they have an advantage in comparison to other chinese nukers in group PVP although in 1v1 i disagree. Anyway i just believe that its wasted to create this build just for sole purpose of group PVP, a wizard has a much greater advantage over such a build in group PVP. A wizard has teleport, invis, traps, buffs, healing, rez, self buffs, life turnover, knock back. The only advantage that i can see in the pure force nuker (light/cold/fire) is that it can solo easier.

[tedtwilliger]

Not everyone wants to be a wizard? Some people dislike the class? Pot delay? Sacrificing hp? Some people dont wish to do that. Chinese have its place in this game, they aren't as useless as people make them out to be.

[BabyBoy]

Not everyone wants to be a wizard? Some people dislike the class? Pot delay? Sacrificing hp? Some people dont wish to do that. Chinese have its place in this game, they aren't as useless as people make them out to be.

I never said anything about chinese not having their place in the game or that they are useless, how can u make such a bold statement from what i wrote...All i said that this character is a waste, you can better arrange your masteries as a chinese nuker. If you want to group PVP, im just saying that europeans were made for the job and well if this build isn't really beneficial in any other aspect of this game than what is the point of making one at all?

[tedtwilliger]

Fun? Enjoyment? Happiness?

Oh wait its SRO, clearly those things don't count anymore. People shouldn't chose what they think will be fun.. no.. never..

[BabyBoy]

Fun? Enjoyment? Happiness?

Oh wait its SRO, clearly those things don't count anymore. People shouldn't chose what they think will be fun.. no.. never..

Well if dieing cause you have no disables is fun, than i am sure your going to enjoy this build.

[foudre]

Fun? Enjoyment? Happiness?

Oh wait its SRO, clearly those things don't count anymore. People shouldn't chose what they think will be fun.. no.. never..

Well if dieing cause you have no disables is fun, than i am sure your going to enjoy this build.

not dying as much is the very point of why one would want this build vs wizzard, wizzard go down in one from just about anything, wizard can't with stand a 1vs 1 fight as easly as a pure force nuker, and in a group fight aka ctf, this build can take a few hits and dish it back at, unlike a wizard that gets hit once and is down.

S/S gives you even a chance to block

its a good middle ground build, fast solo and takes on giants no problem, and can fit into a grind party if a mate is willing and not break up the flow

[willieb3]

Well,babyboy, thats your opinion if you think that wizard is better. I can totally see that wizard/CLERIC is better for group pvp an i hate how people say that this build cant solo pvp...someone who knows how to play this build can destroy at solo pvp

[BabyBoy]

Well,babyboy, thats your opinion if you think that wizard is better. I can totally see that wizard/CLERIC is better for group pvp an i hate how people say that this build cant solo pvp...someone who knows how to play this build can destroy at solo pvp

When i get proof i will believe you, but i don't PVP based on chance. I honestly don't see any logic in solo PVP, if you verse anything with a disable, say bye bye to your nuke that you just tried to cast. I haven't seen a single pure force nuker (light/fire/ice) video on youtube that has pwned, nor have i seen one on my server.

Lets take a blader for example, blader can kd twice in a row you think your going to have a chance to cast many nukes? I dont think so.

Lets not even get started what will happen if you verse a nuker with heuksal mastery, stun and mag defense buff. GG

Another example, lets say your versing a bow, kb kb kb from arrow combo that cancels nukes...this automatically cancels a few nukes already and disrupts your attacking pattern. Good luck on winning. The only way this build can do well is when the attention isn't brought to the player directly and the player can nuke freely.

[JKMB]

the build does alot of dmg, I agree that force is no doubt alot better in solo pvp, and is pretty good in group pvp with fast chain heals and long range res skills, but pure nuker is also a strong build, its kinda screwed when snow ends cuz as babyboy says, it has very little in the way of defense skills, how ever if your shield has a nice BR then mountain shield would be quite usfull to help you surivie a little longer on lucky blocks, you could probably 3-4 nuke most oppenents your lvl as long as they dont manage to KD, stun, KB or w/e, which is were fire and ice wall come in use.

[willieb3]

Well,babyboy, thats your opinion if you think that wizard is better. I can totally see that wizard/CLERIC is better for group pvp an i hate how people say that this build cant solo pvp...someone who knows how to play this build can destroy at solo pvp

When i get proof i will believe you, but i don't PVP based on chance. I honestly don't see any logic in solo PVP, if you verse anything with a disable, say bye bye to your nuke that you just tried to cast. I haven't seen a single pure force nuker (light/fire/ice) video on youtube that has pwned, nor have i seen one on my server.

Lets take a blader for example, blader can kd twice in a row you think your going to have a chance to cast many nukes? I dont think so.

Lets not even get started what will happen if you verse a nuker with heuksal mastery, stun and mag defense buff. GG

Another example, lets say your versing a bow, kb kb kb from arrow combo that cancels nukes...this automatically cancels a few nukes already and disrupts your attacking pattern. Good luck on winning. The only way this build can do well is when the attention isn't brought to the player directly and the player can nuke freely.

OK, im not stupid for bow i got cold wave to freeze him up while he does KB so he cant kb me 3 times in a row quickly, even tho he has pills the cold wave should provide enough time for me to hit him with a couple shouts or a nuke or put up a fire wall.

As for blader this might be a little bit more tricky it would kinda be either all out nukes or a cold nuke then a phantom walk away and nuke him

and for spear, fire wall is all teh protection i could get becuase stun will fk me up but i know that once i get a couple good nukes in and a shout that they will be easy to get due to lack of hp

I didnt say this build would beat every build but i still think it has a really good chance at being a good solo pvper

[BabyBoy]

OK, im not stupid for bow i got cold wave to freeze him up while he does KB so he cant kb me 3 times in a row quickly, even tho he has pills the cold wave should provide enough time for me to hit him with a couple shouts or a nuke or put up a fire wall.

As for blader this might be a little bit more tricky it would kinda be either all out nukes or a cold nuke then a phantom walk away and nuke him

How many people that are chinese and strength based (bladers/bow/glavie)dont have fire? 78% Resistance already to ice, its not hard to put 22% on your jewels...Than what? If your aim is to hope to verse people that don't have ice immunity, well than your going to be vsing noobs at the cap and your kills will be based on chance.

Sure your strategy sounds good on paper, but I'd like to see it in action.

[willieb3]

OK, im not stupid for bow i got cold wave to freeze him up while he does KB so he cant kb me 3 times in a row quickly, even tho he has pills the cold wave should provide enough time for me to hit him with a couple shouts or a nuke or put up a fire wall.

As for blader this might be a little bit more tricky it would kinda be either all out nukes or a cold nuke then a phantom walk away and nuke him

.

Sure your strategy sounds good on paper, but I'd like to see it in action.

me too thats why im gonna try it

[banana]

i think that s/s int nuker are the best =) with nice c gear Of Course and +7 s/s just do the bleed skill and then the chain, put the status and BOOM super nuker on your oponent face



btw the only way that pure int nukers full force ligth/fire/cold can kill easyin pvp is with zerk and at high lv

[willieb3]

I dont know guys...hes only level 44 bcuz i just started him but still in ctf hes usually the best one in there and i havent lost in pvp yet though i havent really attempted anyone my own level