Joe Biden angered by tough questions

[Love]

that a vote for evil is still a vote for evil.

and this is where i call you ignorant and tell you we are done.

and if you really want a tag ill give you the *forest and the trees* one blind man.

[izmeister]

1) iam voting Mccain/palin because iam a republican even if i dont like Mccain very much.

2) and i guess now that everyone who is voting for Mccain/palin is ignorant, stupid, and lacks common sense.

3) I didnt make up the title, its the title of the video.

You made yourself look worse when you said your number 1...

[Verfo]

1) iam voting Mccain/palin because iam a republican even if i dont like Mccain very much.

2) and i guess now that everyone who is voting for Mccain/palin is ignorant, stupid, and lacks common sense.

3) I didnt make up the title, its the title of the video.

You made yourself look worse when you said your number 1...

TBH, even if i dont like Mccain at least he doesnt promises things that wont happen.

And i guess that everyone who is a republican is now an ignorant, hell eveyone in the world is ignorant except love of course.

[Grimm-.-]

1) iam voting Mccain/palin because iam a republican even if i dont like Mccain very much.

2) and i guess now that everyone who is voting for Mccain/palin is ignorant, stupid, and lacks common sense.

3) I didnt make up the title, its the title of the video.

You made yourself look worse when you said your number 1...

TBH, even if i dont like Mccain at least he doesnt promises things that wont happen.

And i guess that everyone who is a republican is now an ignorant, hell eveyone in the world is ignorant except love of course.

O my...

[Barotix]

A rapist and a pedophile(extreme cases). Both evil but you want me to believe one is less evil than the other? There is no such thing as lesser of 2 evils. Evil is Evil and that is final. I find it unusual that you call me ignorant, Love. Is that your catch all word when all rational arguments fail? Are you afraid to defend change without substance? Keep calling others ignorant without backing up your words.

Your own words prove to be your downfall:

and Bortix go read more books that seems to be helping....

I'm sure you would fit in well with the ranks of McCain supporters that you have so much disdain for.

[Blurred]

1) iam voting Mccain/palin because iam a republican even if i dont like Mccain very much.

2) and i guess now that everyone who is voting for Mccain/palin is ignorant, stupid, and lacks common sense.

3) I didnt make up the title, its the title of the video.

You made yourself look worse when you said your number 1...

TBH, even if i dont like Mccain at least he doesnt promises things that wont happen.

And i guess that everyone who is a republican is now an ignorant, hell eveyone in the world is ignorant except love of course.

What do you mean promise things that wont happen? Please explain.

[Avalanche]

I know a couple republicans voting for Obama, not all republicans are ignorant and stupid.

They know they are republican, but also know they do not have to vote for the republican candidate.

Verfo, learn from them.

[Grimjaw]

1) iam voting Mccain/palin because iam a republican even if i dont like Mccain very much.

Duality be nurturing and impedin obvious decision making i take it..

[Sharp324]

1) iam voting Mccain/palin because iam a republican even if i dont like Mccain very much.

2) and i guess now that everyone who is voting for Mccain/palin is ignorant, stupid, and lacks common sense.

3) I didnt make up the title, its the title of the video.

i know you are stupid for 1 fact and 1 fact only, you are voting for some1 just couse of the fact you are a "republican" no for what they believe in or what they stand for. nice job tool, what a beautiful tag you carry.

and let me comment on the video, at no point in that video he was "angered by tough questions" and his response was nothing but excellent and the fact you even dare to post that here is offensive to me.

Ive seen your post, like you can really call anyone stupid on these forums. A lot of people vote on party alone. I, personally, am not voting this year, the candidates suck, a hybrid and a moron...

[Love]

Ive seen your post, like you can really call anyone stupid on these forums. A lot of people vote on party alone. I, personally, am not voting this year, the candidates suck, a hybrid and a moron...

i am listening to w/e argument you have to make such a statement but know that i have supporters

hell eveyone in the world is ignorant except love of course.

[pr0klobster]

Ive seen your post, like you can really call anyone stupid on these forums. A lot of people vote on party alone. I, personally, am not voting this year, the candidates suck, a hybrid and a moron...

i am listening to w/e argument you have to make such a statement but know that i have supporters

hell eveyone in the world is ignorant except love of course.

Bravo. I've never seen such a quasi-troll as you with such an ironic name

[Crumpets]

Verfo and Love ban time now ?

Verfo is underage so what the **** is he stressing about voting anyway. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume you are able to vote. You shouldn't even be allowed anywhere near a voting machine. You are clearly to incompetent to form a valid argument and or opinion. You do not understand what each candidate brings to the table, nor do you understand what would happen if either Obama or McCain would get elected.

People like you should NEVER be able to vote. Hell, keep at it and I would hope to go you don't find away of reproducing .. as your children stand very little chance with a father AS pathetically ignorant as you.

Have a good day.

[Priam]

luls.

i love these random appearances.

crumps.

[nohunta]

Well put crumps.

Ill say this im a huge obama supporter. I know that he is not the BEST possible candidate for this election but its all we have to choose from. Its like a test question where you have to correct answers but one is alot better. (Not saying that they are the correct answers to the question just an example.)

Barotrix you say that a rapist and pedophile cant be chosen between because there both evil. I dont think thats a accurate comparison. I cant think of a better one but i know for a fact that your not giving a good example of the two.

[SidiousX]

i think people should be focusing on which president will help make the economy strong again, not whether which one people share the same social views with.

why does pro-choice, pro-gay, big government, etc. matter? its the economy we should be focusing on. whats the point of electing someone who shares the same social views as you but keeps screwing up the economy?

If some people in the country arent happy, u cant expect the economy to go better all the time... People are the economy... w/o people there wudn't be an economy and thats why its important to keep the people happy with some social stuff...

w/e i cant explain it but im right.

[Avalanche]

Hell, keep at it and I would hope to go you don't find away of reproducing .. as your children stand very little chance with a father AS pathetically ignorant as you.

Don't worry, natural selection. No one will mate with him/her. The population of stupidity will eventually die down.

[Barotix]

He isn't all we have to choose from. Please, stop using "lesser of 2 evils" as a mantra to excuse the fact that you have no true understanding of the current political apparatus.

Barotrix you say that a rapist and pedophile cant be chosen between because there both evil. I dont think thats a accurate comparison. I cant think of a better one but i know for a fact that your not giving a good example of the two.

Barrack and John agree on the most fundamental Issues; however, the difference is purely aesthetic. One put there to shroud the truth in a veil of secrecy, propaganda, and intellectual rhetoric. In a Democratic Nation other candidates should not be prevented from participating in the political process. Constantly being offered the same candidates while being forced to choose the lesser of two evils is bullshit that I don't subscribe to.

Now, a rapist and a pedophile both commit sexual crimes. Most people agree that the physical invasion of private property through sexual intercourse or rape, "molestation", is evil. Are you to say that either criminal is less evil than the other?

Would you prefer a comparison that spares your candidate the dreary truth? The truth that he is no better than McCain or George W. Bush? The truth that he will continue the status quo and not bring "change?" The fact that he offers change without substance? I refuse to pretend that there are core differences between McCain and Obama. There are none.

"Do not give in to evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it." - Virgil.

[Jstar1]

damn, you people are really rude. If you think someones an idiot why dont you pm them and fire off through that? Its funny how the admins/mods don't care about any of this

If some people in the country arent happy, u cant expect the economy to go better all the time... People are the economy... w/o people there wudn't be an economy and thats why its important to keep the people happy with some social stuff...

w/e i cant explain it but im right.

I don't think peopel are going to stop working just because they are unhappy and don't agree with the president on a certain issue.

[XemnasXD]

damn, you people are really rude. If you think someones an idiot why dont you pm them and fire off through that? Its funny how the admins/mods don't care about any of this

If some people in the country arent happy, u cant expect the economy to go better all the time... People are the economy... w/o people there wudn't be an economy and thats why its important to keep the people happy with some social stuff...

w/e i cant explain it but im right.

I don't think peopel are going to stop working just because they are unhappy and don't agree with the president on a certain issue.

Sports, Bars, Fox News, etc

All these things are used to keep people socially content. It gives ppl something to look forward to and keeps them distracted. It takes their mind off how bad their day was at work. Its cool that they're slashing jobs left and right, I'll just go to my favorite bar after work and watch the Phillies, that'll take my mind off it. If these institutions were to fail you would see a completely different American society. In the short term probably a worse one but in the long term probably a better, more focused and aware one.

[nohunta]

He isn't all we have to choose from. Please, stop using "lesser of 2 evils" as a mantra to excuse the fact that you have no true understanding of the current political apparatus.

Barotrix you say that a rapist and pedophile cant be chosen between because there both evil. I dont think thats a accurate comparison. I cant think of a better one but i know for a fact that your not giving a good example of the two.

Barrack and John agree on the most fundamental Issues; however, the difference is purely aesthetic. One put there to shroud the truth in a veil of secrecy, propaganda, and intellectual rhetoric. In a Democratic Nation other candidates should not be prevented from participating in the political process. Constantly being offered the same candidates while being forced to choose the lesser of two evils is bullshit that I don't subscribe to.

Now, a rapist and a pedophile both commit sexual crimes. Most people agree that the physical invasion of private property through sexual intercourse or rape, "molestation", is evil. Are you to say that either criminal is less evil than the other?

Would you prefer a comparison that spares your candidate the dreary truth? The truth that he is no better than McCain or George W. Bush? The truth that he will continue the status quo and not bring "change?" The fact that he offers change without substance? I refuse to pretend that there are core differences between McCain and Obama. There are none.

"Do not give in to evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it." - Virgil.

Your still giving bad comparisons. The truth is Obama has a ton of different goals then McCain. He wants to give us fuel dependancy. Not a bad idea eh?

Also how can you ask that question when its the only two possible solutions at this moment. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOiCES. I dont think you understand baro. If there was a different option i would choose differently but guess what there isnt. So suck it up and vote for the lesser of two evils. You need to learn the world isnt just black and white.

[Barotix]

He wants to give us fuel independence. Not a bad idea eh?

Did you not watch the RNC, McCain said that too. I already posted that every president since Nixon has offered energy independence. It's not a new idea.

Also how can you ask that question when its the only two possible solutions at this moment. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOiCES.

=_= There are other choices. The incumbency legislation just makes it very hard for them to be heard.

So suck it up and vote for the lesser of two evils. You need to learn the world isnt just black and white.

I think I'll vote for one of the guys (or girl) that supports the Constitution, personal liberty, economic liberty, individualism, and non-interventionism.

[Draquish]

Also how can you ask that question when its the only two possible solutions at this moment. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOiCES. I dont think you understand baro. If there was a different option i would choose differently but guess what there isnt. So suck it up and vote for the lesser of two evils. You need to learn the world isnt just black and white.

*points out irony*

[XemnasXD]

Also how can you ask that question when its the only two possible solutions at this moment. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOiCES. I dont think you understand baro. If there was a different option i would choose differently but guess what there isnt. So suck it up and vote for the lesser of two evils. You need to learn the world isnt just black and white.

*points out irony*

Ah yes, well played sir very good *chuckle*

[MiKe 51-50]

He wants to give us fuel independence. Not a bad idea eh?

Did you not watch the RNC, McCain said that too. I already posted that every president since Nixon has offered energy independence. It's not a new idea.

But Obama and Mccain have two different theories on how to fully accomplish being fuel independent. Mccain believes offshore drilling will be the answer. Well, many studies show it wont affect gas prices for 20 years or so.

Spoiler!

For starters, the lead time for oil exploration takes years. Even if offshore drilling areas opened up tomorrow, experts say it would take at least 10 years to realize any significant production. And even then, they say, the U.S. contribution to the overall global oil market would not be enough to make a significant dent in the price of gas. Source

Obama would rather invest in renewable energy. Kinda like the Google's energy plan. Both sides take time, but the end result is renewable energy is better for the world.

The world is addicted to oil. It's almost needed anytime you want to go somewhere. I believe offshore drilling is not a solution and more of a problem. Electrical cars seems to be better in all categories but cost and not being supported enough. Main reason the battery technology is mostly patented by the oil/car companies. They defiantly don't want anybody ruining their monopoly. Hopefully Silicon Valley will get some cheaper cars out and mass produce them.

[Barotix]

Fuel independence is a fluff issue that Presidents bring up to appease the masses. They all want it, they all propose theories, they never do it. What is Obama's stance on the FISA Acts, the Patriot Act, and the Executive order that gives the Executive the power to declare martial law during peace time at the executive's discretion? What is his stance on the military industrial complex? What about the troops we have in 130 countries during peace time; what will he do about that? What is his stance of Preemption? How will he reinstate constitutional law? Does he plan on fighting the mountain of Legislation that makes it very difficult to run for office or start a business? How does he feel about our overseas military expansion? How does he feel about economic freedom? How will he deal with the failed great society? What is he going to do about social security and Medicaid; it's bankrupt. Does he even touch up on these issues? If they want energy independence they need to get rid of the Legislation that protects corporations and gives them a large advantage in the market. In addition to this they need to attack pollution because it is a violation of private property rights. If pollution is heavily punished then it will decrease and entrepreneurs will be forced to adapt out of necessity.

[nohunta]

Also how can you ask that question when its the only two possible solutions at this moment. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOiCES. I dont think you understand baro. If there was a different option i would choose differently but guess what there isnt. So suck it up and vote for the lesser of two evils. You need to learn the world isnt just black and white.

*points out irony*

*Touche*

Anyway Baro your still missing the point here. Im saying RIGHT NOW if there is any other choice that we can vote for other than barack obama and john mccain? Is there anyone else on the ballot? Sure there probably is and your right they should be allowed to advertise like the other two. That doesnt mean that i would like there opinions as much as obama. They are probably just like obama and mccain and i would still be choosing the lesser of two evils.
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[Barotix]

Also how can you ask that question when its the only two possible solutions at this moment. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOiCES. I dont think you understand baro. If there was a different option i would choose differently but guess what there isnt. So suck it up and vote for the lesser of two evils. You need to learn the world isnt just black and white.

*points out irony*

*Touche*

Anyway Baro your still missing the point here. Im saying RIGHT NOW if there is any other choice that we can vote for other than barack obama and john mccain? Is there anyone else on the ballot? Sure there probably is and your right they should be allowed to advertise like the other two. That doesnt mean that i would like there opinions as much as obama. They are probably just like obama and mccain and i would still be choosing the lesser of two evils.
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Maybe if you actually took the time to research their views you would find one more to your personal preference. Judging from your like of President Obama (yes, I said it - he will win) I think you'll find the Independent or Green candidate to be more to your taste. Elections aren't about men. They're about Ideologies and Ideas.

The only third party in America that is anything like McCain/Obama is the Socialist Party. Their complaint is that Obama/McCain are moving to slowly towards Corportism. Maybe President Obama will decide to become a Non-Intervention Constitutionalist while in office, but I doubt that. If there aren't any candidates that you believe represent you why don't you try running for city council and working your way up? I know that's what I'm doing.

[IguanaRampage]

Baro, how can a man provide acceptable solutions (to the American public) to all those questions you listed and not make any "false" promises in your eyes?

If you look at American politics, since Hamilton and Jefferson this country has consistently been governed by two parties or two major factions of a party. Whenever a third party forms, their ideas and beliefs, should they become popular, are swallowed up by a larger party, along with their voting block. A strong third party usually works against their own ideas, by robbing the "main" candidate with similar ideas of votes.

On-Topic:

Video seems to be offline, but from what I've read, I just have to say that the media is far more conservative than conservatives portray. Most writers and reporters vote for Democrats, but from statistics I've seen the editors certainly don't. Biden, unlike Palin, is easily qualified to be vice-president, and, unlike Palin, will at least give a logical, straight answer to questions, even radically biased ones. I'm sure Biden knows what newspapers and magazines he reads, and how those affect his views.

[crazy_foo]

He wants to give us fuel independence. Not a bad idea eh?

Did you not watch the RNC, McCain said that too. I already posted that every president since Nixon has offered energy independence. It's not a new idea.

But Obama and Mccain have two different theories on how to fully accomplish being fuel independent. Mccain believes offshore drilling will be the answer. Well, many studies show it wont affect gas prices for 20 years or so.

Spoiler!

For starters, the lead time for oil exploration takes years. Even if offshore drilling areas opened up tomorrow, experts say it would take at least 10 years to realize any significant production. And even then, they say, the U.S. contribution to the overall global oil market would not be enough to make a significant dent in the price of gas. Source

Obama would rather invest in renewable energy. Kinda like the Google's energy plan. Both sides take time, but the end result is renewable energy is better for the world.

The world is addicted to oil. It's almost needed anytime you want to go somewhere. I believe offshore drilling is not a solution and more of a problem. Electrical cars seems to be better in all categories but cost and not being supported enough. Main reason the battery technology is mostly patented by the oil/car companies. They defiantly don't want anybody ruining their monopoly. Hopefully Silicon Valley will get some cheaper cars out and mass produce them.

No McCain is not just about drilling, he will persue every other alternative method possible so drilling is only a small part of the plan. Obama's plan is very similar just subtract the drilling and there u go *poof* almost same plan exactly. I still prefer McCains plan on energy independence and especially his stance on clean coal tech and nuclear power

[IguanaRampage]

I agree, their plans are pretty similar aside from the offshore drilling bit. Another difference: both candidates on the Democratic ticket can pronounce "nuclear" correctly.