The Alternative to the "Confederation"

[non ego man]

this confederation sounds like a dictartorship.

You ought to look up the word dictatorship real quick. Both for spelling and definition.

[Barotix]

*Grabs Popcorn*
*NomNomNom*

[XemnasXD]

K.O.

im not winning this argument. But i stand by everything i said, we will lose this war on a matter of tactics because of a matter of ethics...

[Zero_Doom]

*Grabs Popcorn*
*NomNomNom*

-thiefs it-

[Xepha]

this confederation sounds like a dictartorship.

You ought to look up the word dictatorship real quick. Both for spelling and definition.

dictatorship is a government ran by the military which at this point in time this confederation(the military) saying you have to ahear to these rules or else you are mocked and flamed upon(punishment).

which my triangle coming to a point.

if you wanna make a war with the bots.
make a fun place and make people want to handgrind their characters
and a place people can come to for help. not laughed at for asking silly n00b questions.
or making silly guilds
so people will wanna come here instead of bots making server traffic more legits instead of bots.

cause at this point in time on venus.
the bots are winning.
and the legits are just making themselves look like elitist jerks.

[Barotix]

The confederation is not a "living entity" but is more of a group of guilds that are legit, and most of the confederates do not actively participate in "the war." Their actions are more or less passive aggressive.

[Zero_Doom]

this confederation sounds like a dictartorship.

You ought to look up the word dictatorship real quick. Both for spelling and definition.

dictatorship is a government ran by the military which at this point in time this confederation(the military) saying you have to ahear to these rules or else you are mocked and flamed upon(punishment).

which my triangle coming to a point.

if you wanna make a war with the bots.
make a fun place and make people want to handgrind their characters
and a place people can come to for help. not laughed at for asking silly n00b questions.
or making silly guilds
so people will wanna come here instead of bots making server traffic more legits instead of bots.

cause at this point in time on venus.
the bots are winning.
and the legits are just making themselves look like elitist jerks.

Have you never been on Venus? Cause um, if I remember correctly, our guilds and parties are always full. There are SO many people in the Confederation that both adhear to and like the way the rules are set. Your a noob and deserve to be flamed, casey is a noob and deserves to be flamed, and the whole thought of a legit alternative to an already legit solution is laughably flamable. I am surprised that this hasn't had more replies then this already.

Now, go shove your head a little further up your ass, so that maybe just maybe you can see the light of day. Legits on Venus are winning this war, and everyone, even the botters know it.

My thoughts of you, and anyone else that talks like you. xP

[Xepha]

then i shall say this.
the people who flamed on this thread are ruining the views of the confederation.
and making the whole union look like jerks.
and making people say hey.
why would i wanna go there if their just gonna flame everyone who isn't as good as them

[Pericles]

then i shall say this.
the people who flamed on this thread are ruining the views of the confederation.
and making the whole union look like jerks.
and making people say hey.
why would i wanna go there if their just gonna flame everyone who isn't as good as them

Man, who cares?!, usually, some of bots ask us to join confederation, because they saw the speed of our parties.
That shows that legits play fair and grind fast.

[non ego man]

dictatorship is a government ran by the military which at this point in time this confederation(the military) saying you have to ahear to these rules or else you are mocked and flamed upon(punishment).

That's a pretty unique definition of dictatorship.

make a fun place and make people want to handgrind their characters and a place people can come to for help. not laughed at for asking silly n00b questions. or making silly guilds. so people will wanna come here instead of bots making server traffic more legits instead of bots.

What on gods green fcking earth do you think we've done? Are you for real? Legits from every fcking server in SRO have flocked to Venus because we've done exactly this. You've got to be joking. There's a small minority of people who are resentful for whatever reason (Casey, Naijel, that paranoid French chick, etc) but Venus is a massive success for legits because we've done exactly what you say.

cause at this point in time on venus. the bots are winning

By what criteria? Fort wars? Guild wars? PvP? Gold owned? Server traffic? By what fcking measure are you going to tell me that the bots are winning on Venus?

the legits are just making themselves look like elitist jerks.

Meh. This rankles some legits. Others take pride in it. Most just laugh and realize it doesn't really affect them all that much and they'll overlook it as long as the bot problem is being dealt with.

[Xepha]

all I'm saying is a lot of the people posted here seems to forget it's a game.
there are rules in place. and it's the gamers choice to either follow them or not.

and that it's ment to have fun.
not to flame everyone who wants to.

[Fly]

K.O.

im not winning this argument. But i stand by everything i said, we will lose this war on a matter of tactics because of a matter of ethics...

yeah cuz venus_lord1, some dumb turk bot who sits at south gate with a cape on spamming LEGITS MOTHER MILK DRINK LOLOLROFLLOLOLOLOL **** LEGITS MOTHER DRINK MILK LOLOLOLOL, has alot of ethics.

we are fighting 10 year old morons. our tactics do just fine.

[Zero_Doom]

all I'm saying is a lot of the people posted here seems to forget it's a game.
there are rules in place. and it's the gamers choice to either follow them or not.

and that it's ment to have fun.
not to flame everyone who wants to.

If you don't like it, then leave. It is your choice to stay here and be flamed, and it is their choice to stay and be flamed. Everyone has the choice to follow the rules set down by the Confederation on Venus. They can either choose to join us, and have access to everything that we enjoy, or they don't and have to make the game fun on their own. If they don't find it fun, they will leave, and we will just have one more spot for a possible legit player who is looking to join the Confederation. xP

[Xepha]

i never said I didn't like the rules.
i myself play legit.
i know people who bot. and i know people who don't.
i'm just saying don't flame people for wanting to have fun.

he/she has the same intention as the confederation does.
just doesn't go indepth with it.
and if it's his first guild he started he'll soon learn that he'll have to go into depth with it.

but how everyone went on about things was just wrong.
people on venus look up to the confederation.
why not set a good view in the mist other than their legit.

[non ego man]

all I'm saying is a lot of the people posted here seems to forget it's a game.

It's just a game and this is just a forum discussing a game. Maybe you're the one being a little over-sensitive by taking the comments in this forum so seriously.

there are rules in place. and it's the gamers choice to either follow them or not.

Not a single person, legit or botter, will argue with you on this point. The issue is not what you can do, but what you should do. Legits believe you should follow the rules. Some of them express that opinion forcefully. Get over it.

and that it's ment to have fun.

Yep. That's right. Legits have fun playing with other legits.

not to flame everyone who wants to.

Nobody is getting flamed for wanting to have fun. They're getting flamed for undermining the efforts that have made Venus the single server in which legits are having fun. That'll get you a flame. Suck it up and stop acting all hurt.

[Guardia]

It's easy, if you dont want to follow the rules, u're our enemy. Get ready for a beat down. We can take all botters union down, we can take u stupid half legits too. Bring the fck on. U guys are too dumb to be a legit. Go play with ur bot friend and team up with them. We dont care. Potential allies? Kiss my ass!

I declare War against half legits! Come to venus, team up with ur bot friend, kiss their ass, bot some too if you like and then face us. We will see who's really fighting the war.

[/Pi]

There are 31 servers that are free from the Confederation:

Xian
Aege
Troy
Babel
Athens
Oasis
Venice
Greece
Alps
Olympus
Tibet
Red Sea
Rome
Sparta
Eldorado
Pacific
Alexander
Persia
Zeus
Poseidon
Hercules
Odin
Mercury
Mars
Saturn
Uranus
Pluto
Neptune
Hera
Gaia
Eos

"HOLY SHIT! Fuck! Are you shitting me right now? Holy fuck. You're fucking kidding me right? Shit! Fuck! Bitch! This doesn't fucking sound right. Hell to the fucking no! You're fucking telling me that all these fucking servers are not controlled by that fucking confederation shit? Nah. You're shitting me right? You have to be! That MANY fucking servers? HOLY SHIT! Fuck! I must be fucking high. No way. Fuck! All these servers? No shit bitch. What the fuck am I doing in Venus then? Holy fuck. All these right? How many are there? 1. 2. 3. 4. Fuck! There's more than fucking five. Fucking hell. I can just get the fuck out of Venus and just fucking pick any of these fucking servers and take my shit there. But no. Shit. I still can't believe this. Thirty-one fucking servers? Thirty-one motherfucking servers that are fucking free from that fucking confederation! Holy fuck. Holy fuck. Holy fuck. You're completely shitting me right now. That's too fucking many of them. Fuck this! I'm packing up bitches!"

[seana49]

It was time!!!!! Legit rules as many read them look imho like a cage with too small a floor. I'm really bored of those endless discussions in union about what is really legit. This is a game, after all, and the main aim should be to have fun and not impair other ppl's fun. Spamming bots and especially goldbots surely do that, but i hate most any racist stance towards any so-called "bad ppl". Very likely i ask to join u, even if i judge my guild to be pleasant and friendly, all in all.

Well, i read the post by Guardia after writing the above....i wonder where such a mentality drives to, in the end

[Guthix]

Don't you get it? This guy posted his 2 rules, but what tells you his rules don't indirectly mean you musn't get bot plvl, for instance? He never proved to be cheating or not, you never proved you were right to be flaming him, yet.

I mean I agree this guy is most likely using a no-DC client and getting bot plvl, I mean if he was really legit he wouldn't have dropped out almost all the rules. But you gotta prove it. Get a screenshot or two of him breaking the legit rules and he gets banned from the forums.

I searched his guild on Rev6, this guy's alone in the guild. He's lvl 32 just to give you an idea of where you can try to find him.

http://www.rev6.com/guild.asp?server=183&guild=PeaceKeepers

Fly, have fun kicking this guy on the ground once you find him

[Guardia]

Ppl keep saying this is just a game. Yes it is a game where ppl shouldnt cheat. If there werent any botters, we wouldnt have this discussion. We wouldnt need confederation to enforce the rules. If you want to have fun with botters, go to other servers. U have another 31 servers to choose from. Yet u came here where we fight against botters 24/7. If you dont have the same mentality, go. Move away, we dont need u here. U can make friends with botters, party with them all the time, hell go afk and let them lvl for you but do this on other servers. Once u're in Venus, u are either with us, or against us. No fckin grey area.

To seana, where will my mentality drives to? Here, in Venus. we're doing fine without bot-friendly ppl. We dont need them. They're not welcome.

[seana49]

Well maybe it's time to be a bit serious.
I'm way older than teenage and in my life met my share of violence and intolerance. Believe me, i'm well equipped to know both when i meet them. Venus, as any other server, is not property of anyone, so none can say "go away". SRO, imho, has to be a "free" game more in the meaning of closeness to freedom than "w/o spending money"; so, if i had to choose, i prefer to fight against KKK and racist mentality than against stupid botters. If this disturb anyone, let him/her feel free to came and kill me in game. If this makes his/her immature and crapped ego feel better, welcome. Moreover, i believe that whoever does not conforms to the rules of a guild or union is dutily put off, but to try to ban from a server is quite another matter and reminds me of untasty historical events too much closer to our time to be forgotten.
For ending, besides not botting, i gave me (ONLY TO ME, pls notice), a set of rules, just to be well mannered in game:
1) never spam
2) never beg
3) never murder
4) never ks
5) being always kind and helpful when correctly adddressed
All these look to me far more important than bot killing

@Shazam! Oyu, i read ur reply; i agree with u on the rightness of behaving well also when gaming, but forcily oppose the choice of inviting whomever to go away, especially w/o politeness. If u deem this is incompatible with my stay in the guild, feel free to ban me. I know u are a very considerate and pleasant person, so, if u also choose to kill me any time, pls do it with a hilarious laugh, so we two remember that we are playing.

[Shazam!]

seana, you are missing quite a few points.

[endymion]

I find this server fun bcz u actually grind with ppl and talk to them =)
and yesss we are winning the war vs bots!!! soo i find the rules great even that some ppl think they are too hard.

Well even some of my friends from a bot server came here and told me how much they liked venus (2 weeks ago they joined)

And about ppl flamming well in here theres no gray area and cant be...soo u are with us or againts us..its ur choice..or why dont u go to another server and try to grind ??? impossible!!!

And if you want to get plv is bcz u wanna lv up but u cant do it on your own for whatever reason u have (mostly bcz ur lazy = same as bot, or bcz ur cant grind lots lots of bots) and cheats its just dumb.

[XemnasXD]

theres a grey area in everything...thats just life whether you want to admit it or not. This is not to say the middle way is effective all the time but still it does exist.

[Clam]

dam why do all the bot supporters compare the game with life?

[Fly]

dam why do all the bot supporters compare the game with life?

id love to play them in RL at chess. i bet if i started cheating they would get pissed at me. yet somehow its ok to cheat online?

rules are rules. you dont collect 20,000 when you pass go. thats just stupid. and you dont let a programe play the game for you. you can argue all you want that bots are people too, but they are worthless people.

and just like you disqualify people in RL games for cheating, the Confederation of Venus disqualifies all bots and bot supporters on Venus. Thats as simple as it gets.

[Guthix]

theres a grey area in everything...thats just life whether you want to admit it or not. This is not to say the middle way is effective all the time but still it does exist.

Yes there is a grey area in everything but on Venus the grey area can gtfo as much as the black area. 'Nuff said.

Besides your theory doesn't even work here: either you cheat or you don't cheat (but theres no place for people who cheat here). There is no "half-cheating" or being "hybrid legit".

[Barotix]

Online or Offline it is still part of "real life;" therefore, cheating online does not somehow make it any less worse than cheating offline. Cheating is cheating and that's final. You either cheat or don't cheat. Once cheating becomes clearly defined there is no gray area.

[nightbloom]

This thread makes me so happy.

I love you guys.

Venus is the best server in SRO, really. Those of us who started on Venus back in the beginning fought so hard for this Confederation and to see it in full swing... Its amazing to me. One damn server in 31 is ours and even then some jackoff like Xemnas thinks we should let botters coexist peacefully. Bitch please... Instead of blabbing in this thread, get your friends together and come to Venus, maybe you will have more luck than sObscene did.

[Taelys]

Well just explain how some Avalon players started on Eos and are currently in the Heroes union, the biggest bot union?

So they don't cheat on Venus, but start cheating on a later server? Cheating is cheating.