New Vortex1337 video

[JKMB]

Surly if he had a private cleric in the vid we would have seen the heal animations if he was healed or buffed, also with the ammount of dmg he took at times, even with his set, leads me to belive he didnt have any external defense buffs, that is just my thoughts how ever, and they are irrelevent.

[N00B_THIEF]

Eventhough, I dont play it anymore but i think the video good. If I ever play it again i will learn his style and other also. I dont care he or other botters or not. The point is not he bot or gold buyer but his fighting style.

[ahmedsabry]

did u see the video link i posted in the previous page? it IS impossible for a wizard to defeat a warrior who know what he's doing 1v1.

Set enough parameters so even a parrot could win with a level 20 character against a full farmed anything. How about have the wizard LT, zerk and nuke a warrior who has 1hp left and afk. Oh wow, the wiz won. Who are you anyway? Nevermind, I just felt like commenting on the uses of fear. It isn't a great status effect, but it's not that bad either..

either u are a complete moro.n u cant understand im talking about two full farmed charecters with full health or ur just being pathetic. who are YOU anyway???! oh wait, i dont even care..

he switches into axes to get the opponent status (bleed and stun). it makes u do more damage with bleed, and makes it alot safer for you to use the relatively slow 2H skills when the opponent is stunned.

Bleed can be pilled or prevented, but you can't pill off an opponent's war cry (even though I agree bleed would have a better effect than war cry). You can sprint assault someone for a stun. Besides, very few players outside cape pvp would weapon switch, so investing in all that sp only for a skill (that is redundant) just for a flashy cape pvp isn't such a great idea, but that is just my very most humble opinion anyway.

u get dull from shield, bleed from axes, and stun from axes and 2H.. feel free to pill all that. perhaps u have a wa to pill every 2 seconds that im not aware of. why the hell wouldnt players outside cape pvp switch weapon? not every one is botting if u know what i mean -.-
weapon switching against giants/partys makes them alot easier to kill (if ur not botting that is), and is very usefull in pvp as u have "humbly" said, not just flashy

[Barotix]

Passive Offense
Defense
Aggressive Offense

Inside the party situation a warrior can tank several people at once but weapon switching so hazardously wouldn't be desirable. You leave yourself and others at risk when you partake in moves, such as switching to daggers to preform wounds on a knocked down enemy. It is naive to say that weapon switching is always appropriate and to feign ignorance when someone challenges that premise with an intelligent argument. It is useful in cape PvP for maintaining high DPS but it's uses start to shrink after that point. Axes are for gang fighting with intent to kill or 1 vs many. 2h is for killing anyone and anything that stands in your way but 2h is limited to 1 at a time. 1h serves the purpose of providing tremendous defense against one or more players.

[pizzagirl2008]

you can still maintain warrior buffs while weapon switching between 1h, 2h and axe depending on situations...

weapon switch is very useful only to those that know how and when to use it!

[Barotix]

Agreed, that is the very reason I included those situations and focused my criticism on switching between daggers and two hand (or whatever weapon you switched from). Switching between 2h, 1h, and DA has it's purpose. Redundant post but I think it had to be said so my post may not be construed so as to say I was against switching between warrior weapons. What I find impractical is switching between classes for the purpose of fighting during a job-war, guild war, or fortress war.

[Shadowfox542]

Agreed, that is the very reason I included those situations and focused my criticism on switching between daggers and two hand (or whatever weapon you switched from). Switching between 2h, 1h, and DA has it's purpose. Redundant post but I think it had to be said so my post may not be construed so as to say I was against switching between warrior weapons. What I find impractical is switching between classes for the purpose of fighting during a job-war, guild war, or fortress war.

Agreed, if you don't kill your enemy you've wasted skins.

Seriously, 2H deals PLENTY of damage, and if that combined with bleed, even more damage. Xbo/daggers are completely overkill, take a lot more SP, and don't offer much beyond not needing to land debuffs, just land a KD.

And seriously, vortex has sun/+9, I don't have problems dealing damage with my nooby +7.
Warrior/Cleric FTW.

[ahmedsabry]

Agreed, that is the very reason I included those situations and focused my criticism on switching between daggers and two hand (or whatever weapon you switched from). Switching between 2h, 1h, and DA has it's purpose. Redundant post but I think it had to be said so my post may not be construed so as to say I was against switching between warrior weapons. What I find impractical is switching between classes for the purpose of fighting during a job-war, guild war, or fortress war.

+1 for sure..
switching between ur warrior weapons is amazingly effective to increase ur versatility, being one of the very few things a warrior lacks using a 2handed sword alone. but changing into a weapon of a different class (aside from cleric for bless spell perhaps) would rid you of your main role as a tank for the party. as warrior, u are expected to aggro, lure and tank mainly.. damage is absolutely not your prime target.
good thing about axes is that they do both. they keep you doing your prime role as a warrior, while also heling do increase ur DPS and the damage other party members deal too (via bleed).

[Simplifique]

When you die in a pvp (other than cape) you risk dropping items from your inventory. Thus, many players with a valuable weapon wouldn't risk weapon switching (other than in cape). In pvp (other than in cape) anything goes. Even though skillful multi weapon wielding will help you efficiently kill a target, you can still get killed by other players.

either u are a complete moro.n u cant understand im talking about two full farmed charecters with full health or ur just being pathetic. who are YOU anyway???! oh wait, i dont even care..

Au contraie, a troll maybe but not a moron. I'm not an expert in pvp either. Favourable conditions narrows outcome, a point so obvious it warrants sarcasm.

perhaps u have a wa to pill every 2 seconds that im not aware of.

Last I check it can still be done (unless they've fixed it).

*Chuckles* Look my dear, everyone has opinions. I don't think I'm always right either, even though I've pvped with and against every lvl 90 capped char combination you could think of, 1on1 and in a team, and I don't think I'm an expert at all. The vid however is just misleading, and in no way demonstrates the strenghts a euro char has. The equipments had a larger impact than the skill of the player, and I think a lot of players just over analyse this aspect. Still we don't get many of these vids, and anything that stimulates discussion is a great learning tool.

[iGod]

Keep in mind its a pvp video, the situations aren't perfect, it's not an instructional or professional video

[sawney]

lol fck i wasted almost 30 min to read the fcking jealous posts about vortex

[ahmedsabry]

When you die in a pvp (other than cape) you risk dropping items from your inventory. Thus, many players with a valuable weapon wouldn't risk weapon switching (other than in cape). In pvp (other than in cape) anything goes. Even though skillful multi weapon wielding will help you efficiently kill a target, you can still get killed by other players.

to all warrior/clerics.. alert!alert! leave your cleric rods in the storage

either u are a complete moro.n u cant understand im talking about two full farmed charecters with full health or ur just being pathetic. who are YOU anyway???! oh wait, i dont even care..

Au contraie, a troll maybe but not a moron. I'm not an expert in pvp either. Favourable conditions narrows outcome, a point so obvious it warrants sarcasm.

gratz.. thx for making it clear im talking about a full health warrior.

perhaps u have a wa to pill every 2 seconds that im not aware of.

Last I check it can still be done (unless they've fixed it).

*Chuckles* Look my dear, everyone has opinions. I don't think I'm always right either, even though I've pvped with and against every lvl 90 capped char combination you could think of, 1on1 and in a team, and I don't think I'm an expert at all. The vid however is just misleading, and in no way demonstrates the strenghts a euro char has. The equipments had a larger impact than the skill of the player, and I think a lot of players just over analyse this aspect. Still we don't get many of these vids, and anything that stimulates discussion is a great learning tool.

im not basing my oppinion on the video -.-
i have played 1v1 with a warrior against a wizard, and with a wizard against a warior. say what you wish "dear", outcome always the same cuz its simply ur oppinion.
videos are a good way to stimulate discussion, which is a good way to learn.. agreed.

[Simplifique]

it's not an instructional or professional video

I sure hope no one would see it that way, nor that I implied that it was anywhere near that level.

@sawney, are you dumb? Nobody forced you to read.

im not basing my oppinion on the video -.-
i have played 1v1 with a warrior against a wizard, and with a wizard against a warior. say what you wish "dear", outcome always the same cuz its simply ur oppinion.

Ah see, I was. I wasn't interested in your vid link at all. This all started with me giving a comment about fear, and I wasn't at all interested in warrior vs wizard. You seem to jump the gun to think that I disagreed with you in some way. I prefer sarcasm over direct insult, but I've made an exception for you since I fully understand that you are just too smart for sarcasm.

[ahmedsabry]

im not basing my oppinion on the video -.-
i have played 1v1 with a warrior against a wizard, and with a wizard against a warior. say what you wish "dear", outcome always the same cuz its simply ur oppinion.

Ah see, I was. I wasn't interested in your vid link at all. This all started with me giving a comment about fear, and I wasn't at all interested in warrior vs wizard. You seem to jump the gun to think that I disagreed with you in some way. I prefer sarcasm over direct insult, but I've made an exception for you since I fully understand that you are just too smart for sarcasm.

sarcasm again... should u have jumped to insult this time? or maybe i should have?
hmmm, nah.. not worth it

[Lulor]

so funny how you people act... talking about hes suns or whatever ITS PART OF THE FREAKING GAME GET OVER IT....

would you npc your suns so no one would have them? no you would keep them yourself... so would everyone else

[Berto]

Aside from the suns and the video, I've got to admit from what I've seen so far specially in my server, warrior cleric is the euro build of 90 cap when played right. We'll have to see how I fair against them when I am 90 o_o

[penfold1992]

Aside from the suns and the video, I've got to admit from what I've seen so far specially in my server, warrior cleric is the euro build of 90 cap when played right. We'll have to see how I fair against them when I am 90 o_o

if a warrior skins or bless, i run away for 1min. same as a ch using ss.

i dnt care if that makes me a pu55y, i kno i cant kill so i just dont. simple as. i can 1 nuke most warriors around my lvl w/o skins.

now either im fking amazing.... yea i kno i am

or the warriors are sh1t. either way, i end up a winner.


all builds can kill all, its the way you play not necessarily the build or w.e

[Nitro]

Aside from the suns and the video, I've got to admit from what I've seen so far specially in my server, warrior cleric is the euro build of 90 cap when played right. We'll have to see how I fair against them when I am 90 o_o

if a warrior skins or bless, i run away for 1min. same as a ch using ss.

i dnt care if that makes me a pu55y, i kno i cant kill so i just dont. simple as. i can 1 nuke most warriors around my lvl w/o skins.

now either im fking amazing.... yea i kno i am

or the warriors are sh1t. either way, i end up a winner.


all builds can kill all, its the way you play not necessarily the build or w.e

Probabbly a noob Warriors ... because noone can run away from me ... I can always chase them... with Sprint Assault or Heaven Glare ... + if someone starts run from me, I always use drug...

95% of Warriors are noobs, trust me.

[wootpops]

Aside from the suns and the video, I've got to admit from what I've seen so far specially in my server, warrior cleric is the euro build of 90 cap when played right. We'll have to see how I fair against them when I am 90 o_o

if a warrior skins or bless, i run away for 1min. same as a ch using ss.

i dnt care if that makes me a pu55y, i kno i cant kill so i just dont. simple as. i can 1 nuke most warriors around my lvl w/o skins.

now either im fking amazing.... yea i kno i am

or the warriors are sh1t. either way, i end up a winner.


all builds can kill all, its the way you play not necessarily the build or w.e

agreed or i try to stun and switch to shield constantly. and if they think they are tough and can kill me and dont cast holy i make a joke out of them and ice them.

[ahmedsabry]

Aside from the suns and the video, I've got to admit from what I've seen so far specially in my server, warrior cleric is the euro build of 90 cap when played right. We'll have to see how I fair against them when I am 90 o_o

if a warrior skins or bless, i run away for 1min. same as a ch using ss.

i dnt care if that makes me a pu55y, i kno i cant kill so i just dont. simple as. i can 1 nuke most warriors around my lvl w/o skins.

now either im fking amazing.... yea i kno i am

or the warriors are sh1t. either way, i end up a winner.


all builds can kill all, its the way you play not necessarily the build or w.e

agreed or i try to stun and switch to shield constantly. and if they think they are tough and can kill me and dont cast holy i make a joke out of them and ice them.

warriors can kill any other build 1v1 without skins..
u have to see the video of VN_warrior using healing cycle + holy recovery division to tank a DAGGER ROGUE !

[Grimm-.-]

Hehe VN is great.
Just like every other warrior tho.... she does what i do just she had dare devil
Awesome watching her pvp tho.

[wootpops]

agreed or i try to stun and switch to shield constantly. and if they think they are tough and can kill me and dont cast holy i make a joke out of them and ice them.

warriors can kill any other build 1v1 without skins..
u have to see the video of VN_warrior using healing cycle + holy recovery division to tank a DAGGER ROGUE ![/quote]



not saying they cant win but they can still lose.

[Blinxx]

The vid however is just misleading, and in no way demonstrates the strenghts a euro char has. The equipments had a larger impact than the skill of the player, and I think a lot of players just over analyse this aspect

i believe so too, the suns made a huge impact. Others having sun gears won't really matter, i mean a 2h SUN that's just insane damage :S. Sure it's part of that game, but that's just the thing about it. It my be part of the game, but it becomes GEAR vs whatever you're up against. Seen mightyenas vid and that char kills SOX users, if you guys want to drool over something it's on that because that takes balls and skills to take on an SOX user ( let alone almost full sun ).

Now let's just consider the fact he's learning to get better, that's done and that's great for him. Still can't take away the fact that it all mattered because of gear, he might be better now but still can't change that.

Anyways good luck on the other vids, hope you make more fans i suppose? lol still don't get the fact he's got " fans " when it's too obvious. Call me jealous, but that's what people say when their idol gets something foul.

[ahmedsabry]

The vid however is just misleading, and in no way demonstrates the strenghts a euro char has. The equipments had a larger impact than the skill of the player, and I think a lot of players just over analyse this aspect

i believe so too, the suns made a huge impact. Others having sun gears won't really matter, i mean a 2h SUN that's just insane damage :S. Sure it's part of that game, but that's just the thing about it. It my be part of the game, but it becomes GEAR vs whatever you're up against. Seen mightyenas vid and that char kills SOX users, if you guys want to drool over something it's on that because that takes balls and skills to take on an SOX user ( let alone almost full sun ).

Now let's just consider the fact he's learning to get better, that's done and that's great for him. Still can't take away the fact that it all mattered because of gear, he might be better now but still can't change that.

Anyways good luck on the other vids, hope you make more fans i suppose? lol still don't get the fact he's got " fans " when it's too obvious. Call me jealous, but that's what people say when their idol gets something foul.

he's not even "nearly full sun" anymore.. he's actually FULL SUN !
anyway, i suggest that he does his next video in like +5 to +7 normal gear (just wear them in the video only), so it becomes less about his SUNs and more about his skill.
would be the only real way to prove his quality as a player.

[asusi]

so funny how you people act... talking about hes suns or whatever ITS PART OF THE FREAKING GAME GET OVER IT....

would you npc your suns so no one would have them? no you would keep them yourself... so would everyone else

point is.. you don't come arround here with full sosun and say i'm best i have best skills.. i mean come on everybody got skills if he/she has a sun set.

[Stress]

Does he have sun accesories too?

Funny how people complain about sun armor sets and nobody EVER even mentions sun jewlery.

[N00B_THIEF]

Does he have sun accesories too?

Funny how people complain about sun armor sets and nobody EVER even mentions sun jewlery.

You are exactly right. em sun accessories really help IMO those help more than sun pieces.

[ahmedsabry]

Does he have sun accesories too?

Funny how people complain about sun armor sets and nobody EVER even mentions sun jewlery.

You are exactly right. em sun accessories really help IMO those help more than sun pieces.

u cant see'em on rev6 = no complaint

[Kalypso]

Does he have sun accesories too?

Funny how people complain about sun armor sets and nobody EVER even mentions sun jewlery.

sun ring, 85+7 ring, 87+8 earrings

[StacE]

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