Nachals and when to switch to sword with my nuker?

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

Hello, I wasn't sure when to post this 'cause it's kinda C&S but
still not sorta not. Plus I have a kinda market place question.
But still fits here in a way to ^^ Sorry if you think it's the
wrong place for it.

Anyway I have a nuker level 52, I'm faming now and wandering
when I should start using a s/s instead of a spear because
I am an int s/s but been using spear to grind. I wanted to
buy a really nice level 72 sword to farm nachals with. Like a
+7 full blue or something. With some nice gear to including
a good shield. So then I could PvP and stuff to have fun so
I have something to do between farming when I need a break as
I 'wanna farm alot, like 200k+. Soon as I'm done farming at 52
I'm 0 gapping to 72 then using cursed hearts to delevel back to
63 masteries (I'll only level 1 mastery, no skills after 63).
So basically when should I start using sword/shield? I was
thinking at 72 but you tell me what's wise?

A few quick Nachals questions, I would be able to 1 nuke
with full blue garms and a +5 s/s (I'll probably get +7)
Also are they mag or phys att?
People say use garms and I'll be invincible at nachals
as an int s/s so I'm assuming mag dmg but just 'wanna make
sure, I don't want garms for fighting a phys based mob.

And a semi-market place question, How much do +7 swords
full blued and fairly good stats. 11ish crit, mag att +50%
or better same with phys and all other stats are fairly
good?

[Goseki]

Depends which server you are on and your preferences on what you want on the sword. For me, i'd rather have an item with FULL BLUES, ie all 9 blues on it, than an item with better stats but missing immortal and astral, just my thing. A 72+7 sword, int str attk rating, dur, and blocking 100% blues with mag 61% crit 13 was in network on Alps for 45mil. I bought my 72+7 mag 54 crit 8 int str BR max and attk rating 30% was 40 mil. I <3 my sword more cuz it came with steady 4, imm and astral 2 XD.

As for your character. With lvl 63 skills... I dunno. You'll be able to 1-hit them at 72 with a good 72+7. HOWEVER there's something wrong with your plan. I dunno about your server, but on Alps, Nachal are THE place for 90 wizards to powerlvl ppl. SO prepare yourself with VERY good garm set to take the dmg. You should be fine though, although I get annoyed sometimes with 20 pt mobs attking me for 100 dmg each. If you zombie immune you should be fine though. Just be prepared to be ks alot.

Switch to s/s whenever you like. I've always grinded with s/s since it allows me to ks with my kd + stab. I'm 73 ff pure int s/s btw in pimped garms. They don't give me trouble, but it's just annoying getting ksed by 90 wizs in there.

Basically play how you feel most comfortable. After all, you ARE the one farming.
Price-wise. expect i'd say 40-60 mil for sword. 30-40 mil for shield

[Mishiru]

is better farm ther in nachals. coz if you try to up to 900 0 gap and try to farm at rockys... you ll get disapointed about how many bot kills 1 mob....

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

I'm on venus. So not to sure how much it's worth there. Also I have
never seen a plvl party for nachals in party match. Only Generals
occasionaly, mostly ongs and penons with a few shade/sonar taxis to.

Offtopic: How much SP do you get from the prem quest and how many times
can you do it each month?

[thechampion80]

ofc there's no plvls at nachals in venus
they're all at ongs (and a few at pegs)

[cuchulainn]

I could 1 hit them with a 72 crap spear on my hybrid nuker.

With a 64+3 sword I was two shotting them easy. Take lots of pills and MP pots and if you're S/S with Garms, they'll barely touch you.

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

Thanks guys , can someone help me out with my prem question to ^^

[__dRe]

Thanks guys , can someone help me out with my prem question to ^^

For both Premium and Premium + you can do the quest 3 times
The amount from the Premium is 2500sp / 500seeds, so thats 7500sp if you can complete the quest 3 times
The amount from the Premium + is 10000sp / 500fruits, so thats 30000sp if you can complete the quest 3 times

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

Thanks guys , can someone help me out with my prem question to ^^

For both Premium and Premium + you can do the quest 3 times
The amount from the Premium is 2500sp / 500seeds, so thats 7500sp if you can complete the quest 3 times
The amount from the Premium + is 10000sp / 500fruits, so thats 30000sp if you can complete the quest 3 times

And is the quest doable 3 times? Like I'm not gonna have to go to any
extreme extents to achive that am I? What do you have to do in the
quest? How do you get fruits/seeds?

[Bg_DrEaM]

For me it has always been hareder to get all the 1500(3 times the wuest) seeds from the PT, always easier to get the 1500 fruits from the PT+.

As for the s/s, i would advice you to search for a shield with a good block ratio. For me that has always been the most important thing, and using a shield +5 with br 19(90%) has saved my life many times, i used it from lvl 72 to lvl 85.

As for the nachals, you will be perfect there, just be sure you always have 150~200 special universal pills, because dieing down there is really annoying

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

What status can Nachals ptu on you? Other than zombie? 'Cause I'd
rather get imune than buy pills ^^

For the seeds and fruits is it like cursed hearts or something?
They just drop from mobs or what ever?

[Bg_DrEaM]

They give mainly zombie i think, but you can't get 100% immuned, and one moment of loosing attention is enought to get you killed. Other than that they are almost sweet so fight with them with a niker.

The quest items ae dropped just like cursed hearts, but they are droppend only during the tiket time, 3 hours a day for Prem, 5 hours a day for Prem+

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

Okay thanks

[JKMB]

They give mainly zombie i think, but you can't get 100% immuned.

100% resitance IS possible you will need 30 fire and good zombie stats on your jewelry, by good I mean 80%+ on each piece.

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

They give mainly zombie i think, but you can't get 100% immuned.

100% resitance IS possible you will need 30 fire and good zombie stats on your jewelry, by good I mean 80%+ on each piece.

Wouldn't I need about 16% on each piece. Level 28 fire shield give 38%...

[penfold1992]

spear at nachals

with zombie immune
no bots
lots of mp
good gear - int 4 5 on everything
mag on spear 60+

5 shot nachal giant
sp farm done.

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

I've already sold my spear and started using my s/s.
NNEVER going back haha. s/s is so much more fun.
All you can do with spear is nuke and that sucks
and I can't even have breaks to go PvP when I'm
farming with a spear I'm gonna stick with sword.

I'm gonna but +7 sword and high mag with good garms.
3/4 int and str on everything Then sell my garms
when I'm done I guess and buy new armour.

[JKMB]

They give mainly zombie i think, but you can't get 100% immuned.

100% resitance IS possible you will need 30 fire and good zombie stats on your jewelry, by good I mean 80%+ on each piece.

Wouldn't I need about 16% on each piece. Level 28 fire shield give 38%...

Fire shield isnt a fixed %, if I remember correctly, il get an SS of what my jewelry is like, again not sure about fire shield.
EDIT:
Im immune with this, im not sure what the minimume ammount to be immune would be how ever!
Yes @ C1oud thats me xD

[CloudStrider]

JK! I know you, you friends with that Ghhhhhost [SP?] guy.

[jtryp]

Fire shield isnt a fixed %

yah it is and what he said is right, he'd only need 16% on each jewerly to be immune.

[JKMB]

Fire shield isnt a fixed %

yah it is and what he said is right, he'd only need 16% on each jewerly to be immune.

Hence why I said I wasnt sure , anyway, nachel with immunity is a gold mine, I farmed there at 69-70 and didnt have to much trouble in terms of dmg I did, I guess at 72 with a nice set you should be able to 1 nuke,shout the mobs

[cuchulainn]

Unless something has changed, to get immune you just need the % from jewelry and the number from fire shield to add to 100.

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

Unless something has changed, to get immune you just need the % from jewelry and the number from fire shield to add to 100.

Yeah that's what I was trying to say haha
Thanks everyone.