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John_Doe wrote:A new articles article from a media station out of Alaska isn't really gonna prove much, maybe to the ones who are just hoping for one flaw in Palin so they can grab it and blow it out of proportion. If Palin was truely involved in something like that, it would not take some out of state press to dig it, its like questioning any creditblity of anything made by the Alaskan press, media, etc. about Obama's VP.


i dont think u saw this in the article:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqPmKljh ... e_ala.html

that is pretty convincing that she was associated with the AIC. :roll:
Or is this an evil twin... :shock:

There was another video somewhere about the AIC leaders talking about her specifically and their plans to "infiltrate the major American political parties" for their goals to be acheived.

ii hope im not missing something here. and the idea alone that her husband was only one associated is even enough to reject her on the ticket.

but o well. :(

Edit: another interesting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=006axc2aELE
Your article was only able to focus on this and her daughter's baby, and if this video was in that article, shows how unprofessional they are useing a vid from youtube. Wait because she addresses the AIC at the beginning of the video, and says the she agrees with them on upholding the states constitution she is assumed to be part of it? All I see is her saying how good the AIC's convention went and then brushing up alittle on Alaskan history? Am I missing the secret? If this is your reason for believeing, then so be it I have no reason to convince you.

And that second video, just shows why I believe Macain was smart in choosing Palin, seeing as Obama is associated with inexperience it gives his party no solid ground to be able to point at Palin and talk about her being inexperence without people questioning them about Obama's experience.

And you said just cause her husband was involved she should be kick, thats like me saying so what if Obama is good his longtime minister, friend, and adviser said
Spoiler!
Maybe Obama's doesn't even have those views but base on your way of thinking we should kick Obama just cause his longtime minister, friend, and adviser said those things, ok his minister isn't his husband but I don't really think that would matter?
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Love wrote:you state your reasons, but bashing other people makes you stupid
Let me ask? Obama wish to low taxes and cut unneed government spending, health care, schooling etc. if you actually watch his speech he said that he will do all of that including getting the money needed without useing any money from out or our pockets. Now that sounds great right, but think how would he do that? By pulling money from thin air? How would the governemnt get money by any other way besides taxing? If he plans to do so much change in 4 years, yet still lower taxes, then it will truely be amazing. Do I have to post Macain's speech from yesterdays convention word for word? Because not one time did I see nor hear him say that he was only gonna lower taxes for rich people? more money on middle class ( like obama is planning ) = more money in the economy = more jobs. I fail to see how that works? He lowers taxes, inflation goes up, wow your dad just got a 5 dallor raise but inflation just went up as much, that 5 dallor raise can easily now be compared to a .25 cent raise. I thought it was the more money a bussiness had the more people it can hired and the more it can pay it's employees?

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mccain is such a douche, he said obama was against nuclear power, when just a few days before 40 million people watched obama say that he was open to it
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John_Doe wrote:Wait because she addresses the AIC at the beginning of the video, and says the she agrees with them on upholding the states constitution she is assumed to be part of it? All I see is her saying how good the AIC's convention went and then brushing up alittle on Alaskan history? Am I missing the secret? If this is your reason for believeing, then so be it I have no reason to convince you.


ya i know what your saying, but i dont agree. simply, i believe that she is a part of AIC and even if she is not, i believe that if someone as close to her as her husband is involved, that is enough of an issue for the dems to bash the reps on. that is what the reps did to obama on rev wright issue. but ya im not trying to convince you either. so be it. :)

Also, my view is that McCain's policy may be better in some economic terms while obama's is more pleasing to the eye (generally the whole middle class) but not beneficial in the long run. I see obama's econmic plan more as a temporary solution and mccain's as a long run solution. Im not sure on the technical aspects of the economic issue, but it is quite obvious to me that when telling the truth, mccain hides more from the people than obama does.

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I cant believe people want McCain to win. He sounds just like bush did 4 years ago... Hell 8 years ago. They even talk alike. Not really about the same issues but how they seem to handle it. With 100% pure bullshit. But people still shift to his side even after they seened how much an idiot bush was. You guys forget, THERE ALMOST THE SAME!
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l05tfr33k7 wrote:
John_Doe wrote:Wait because she addresses the AIC at the beginning of the video, and says the she agrees with them on upholding the states constitution she is assumed to be part of it? All I see is her saying how good the AIC's convention went and then brushing up alittle on Alaskan history? Am I missing the secret? If this is your reason for believeing, then so be it I have no reason to convince you.


ya i know what your saying, but i dont agree. simply, i believe that she is a part of AIC and even if she is not, i believe that if someone as close to her as her husband is involved, that is enough of an issue for the dems to bash the reps on. that is what the reps did to obama on rev wright issue. but ya im not trying to convince you either. so be it. :)

Also, my view is that McCain's policy may be better in some economic terms while obama's is more pleasing to the eye (generally the whole middle class) but not beneficial in the long run. I see obama's econmic plan more as a temporary solution and mccain's as a long run solution. Im not sure on the technical aspects of the economic issue, but it is quite obvious to me that when telling the truth, mccain hides more from the people than obama does.
+1 nice one

Blurred wrote:Is that the only thing you can pick at?
I don't know nor do I feel that Macain is going to do a good job, but I do believe that he will do better then Obama.
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Love wrote:if you are for McCain i could not say anything but that you are stupid and/or dont give a fk, seriously that guy is going to put us in more of a shithole than we already are, there wont be any economy fixtures is just the same old sh1t his taxes cuts are for the rich not for your average american and in case you slept your way through economy class more money on middle class ( like obama is planning ) = more money in the economy = more jobs. drilling for oil in our shores is nothing and i think is pathetic for this to be brought up as a solution to our energy crisis, yes it should be done to reduce prices but this is not a solution this is nothing but a patch we need to shift into new energies forms and in case you dont know how america works every time something extreme like this happens the economy blooms creating millions of new jobs, drilling for oil on our shores is something we should do to keep the boat afloat til the new energy generation arrives, nothing more nothing less doesnt take much to figure this out

also i should mention he is pushing that stupid war that is getting our country into a deficit; that is money better spent somewhere else ! and seriously no shit the country doesnt have a health care system and schools increasingly keep facing budget cuts but we do have 3 trillions to not fix a problem in a other than our own, we paying a country that has close to 90 billions in surplus is not even remotely correct

Obama has an economy plan for the country he has already talked about it, McCain on the other hand says that he will reach to any1 necessary to make things work AKA i dont have a fking clue of what i am/will doing/do, i love how he talks about experience and bs but has knowledge of nothing just like George Bush, this person may have an idea or 2 but knows nothing about the true needs of the country or how the system things really works, definitely not rdy to lead :!: some1 running for president should be highly educated and know/understand the situation the country is in inside and out, is pathetic how this people use intimidation towards the american public and works .....i was speechless when i saw today that McCain and Obama are tied in the polls, specially after hearing him say in his speech something on the nature of 'old Washington dogs change is coming no more me first country second kind of mentality' and at the end he popped that fake smile i just wanted to die ( for god sake the guy was reading line by line that is how he addresses his country !!!!!!!! that is his level of readiness ) i mean honestly people running Washington are me first country second mentality.......seriously, we do have some farked up systems but definitely Washington isn't being run by people with me first country second kind of mentality ( McCain is one of this people and while at it he is getting taxes cuts for himself .....that is your economy plan right there )

i do have an issue with an 71 year old saying every 2 seconds i fought in Vietnam and this is the reason why you should entrust the country to me and if you have any doubts in your heart my VP says i am a hockey mom every 2 secs as well and has a vagina and this makes it somehow revolutionary..... i wish that was sarcasm but that is literally what they are doing

if you want more, education yesterday McCain in his speech said something in the nature of Americans need to be ready to take the jobs + some patriotic bullsh1t, that was what he had to said about education, no i do see how an educated country is more productive making the country by any standard more successful, education is not a money sink the more educated people you have the more you will produce and by a large margin

about the intimidation tactics being used by the Mccain campaign on the american public. he went all out on Obama for months on how inexperience he was and now his VP the woman who is literally a heartbeat away from the job stands as a brilliant rdy to lead person with the same level of experience, this is just how much this guy makes sense. the same McCain that wants to run for president during a RECESSION ADMITTED TO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ECONOMY WORKS i mean what ? how much do you care about your country that when it needs some1 to make things work the way they should and fast you go on and try to claim the spot without a fking clue, just like that of how many houses he had ...... patriotism ? this guy wipes his ass with that

this is very simple folks lets list the problems we all see with the country

economic problems
education problems
health care problems
energy problems
war on land of people who are unwilling to fight for their freedom draining our pockets taking lives

can you fix any of this ? can you fix them all ? no then move fking alone

seriously have you heard Mccain talking about health care issues ? education issues ? solutions ? ill tell you something i heard him talk about, religion and how a 17 year old teenager who has the brain size of a peanut goes and get pregnant and is supposed to be stuck with a baby couse most people apparently believe in god, let me give you a clue: stem call research any1? the huge benefits of this and how this goes against religion? same path dont be mistaken. i want to add that this **** is doing pretty much nothing towards education and expects kids to more so be responsible and not to get pregnant ......no, in case you are wondering this 2 dont go together and not every1 has able parents

i want to finish right here couse mainly is getting late and excuse the lousy grammar but i hope you get the point and have a better idea of how important this elections are and if you can go outhere vote and make a difference towards what you feel is right.

i wanted to add this somewhere but didnt know where but in the past 8 years our country hasnt made any improvements as you can probably tell and the fact that McCain agreed 91% of the time with George W. Bush goes to show you what you will be getting and is not like Dom says that 80% of this are no brainers. do your homework better this is a very real number that impacts the way things are run and remember another fact Obama's plans for the country are written on paper rdy to be executed, McCain's who claims to have experience and rdy to lead on day 1 has them on *contact some1 to figure it out( this is from himself )* imaginary list of the same kind of your other politicians who promise the sky and moon and never deliver anything. i really dont want a president who thinks he can handle a war situation better and cant do anything else couse he was in some war 50 years ago, that is all

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John_Doe wrote:
l05tfr33k7 wrote:
John_Doe wrote:Wait because she addresses the AIC at the beginning of the video, and says the she agrees with them on upholding the states constitution she is assumed to be part of it? All I see is her saying how good the AIC's convention went and then brushing up alittle on Alaskan history? Am I missing the secret? If this is your reason for believeing, then so be it I have no reason to convince you.


ya i know what your saying, but i dont agree. simply, i believe that she is a part of AIC and even if she is not, i believe that if someone as close to her as her husband is involved, that is enough of an issue for the dems to bash the reps on. that is what the reps did to obama on rev wright issue. but ya im not trying to convince you either. so be it. :)

Also, my view is that McCain's policy may be better in some economic terms while obama's is more pleasing to the eye (generally the whole middle class) but not beneficial in the long run. I see obama's econmic plan more as a temporary solution and mccain's as a long run solution. Im not sure on the technical aspects of the economic issue, but it is quite obvious to me that when telling the truth, mccain hides more from the people than obama does.
+1 nice one

Blurred wrote:Is that the only thing you can pick at?
I don't know nor do I feel that Macain is going to do a good job, but I do believe that he will do better then Obama.


Why because he has "experience"? ;)
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I like his ideas and the values that he embodies. And yes because of his experience, I'll give you that so you can have something to say back.
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John_Doe wrote:By pulling money from thin air? How would the governemnt get money by any other way besides taxing? If he plans to do so much change in 4 years, yet still lower taxes, then it will truely be amazing.


There are tons of things the gov't could cut spending on, believe me. I'm actually guessing a large part of Obama's plan would be to use the money that's available once we're out of Iraq.
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John_Doe wrote:By pulling money from thin air? How would the governemnt get money by any other way besides taxing? If he plans to do so much change in 4 years, yet still lower taxes, then it will truely be amazing.


There are tons of things the gov't could cut spending on, believe me. I'm actually guessing a large part of Obama's plan would be to use the money that's available once we're out of Iraq.


Surplus check that people won't use to stimulate the economy. Making the fiscally responsible pay for the screw-ups of the fiscally irresponsible. Calling something optional when in fact it is mandatory and the entire next generation will have it. Nothing big will happen in the next 4 years. McCain, Obama: it makes no difference. We've gone to far into this damn rabbit hole we call the war on terrorism.
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Well I assume that would be his plan. God knows whether he will follow through with it.

People like to hear shit like that though, it gets votes.
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John_Doe wrote:I like his ideas and the values that he embodies. And yes because of his experience, I'll give you that so you can have something to say back.


like what, his time in vietnam? Yes, everyone acknowledges that mccain is a patriot who served his country faithfully, but using his time in vietnam as a cornerstone of his ability to lead the country is plain stupid. Yes, you got tortured in vietnam, but does that help you run the country?
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Love wrote:you state your reasons, but bashing other people makes you stupid
Let me ask? Obama wish to low taxes and cut unneed government spending, health care, schooling etc. if you actually watch his speech he said that he will do all of that including getting the money needed without useing any money from out or our pockets. Now that sounds great right, but think how would he do that? By pulling money from thin air? How would the governemnt get money by any other way besides taxing? If he plans to do so much change in 4 years, yet still lower taxes, then it will truely be amazing. Do I have to post Macain's speech from yesterdays convention word for word? Because not one time did I see nor hear him say that he was only gonna lower taxes for rich people? [b]more money on middle class ( like obama is planning ) = more money in the economy = more jobs. I fail to see how that works? He lowers taxes, inflation goes up, wow your dad just got a 5 dallor raise but inflation just went up as much, that 5 dallor raise can easily now be compared to a .25 cent raise. I thought it was the more money a bussiness had the more people it can hired and the more it can pay it's employees?

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get a clue the man himself said he doesnt understand the economy
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thanks for making things up about the economy for him .........people like yourself are the reason why the country isnt moving forward

and go back to school and learn about inflation...... people are loosing houses left and right that tells you that they dont have money therefore they arent consuming and jobs are being lost due to the lack of sales. i wont give you a class but there is a lot more to it, learn your stuff

I thought it was the more money a bussiness had the more people it can hired and the more it can pay it's employees?

old economies there, that goes to show that you dont understand how the economy works, if you knew anything you would know that middle class is the spending class and the more they have the more they spend

businesses cant hire people if no1 is buying their products and they having more money doesnt necessarily mean they will pay their employees more, that is another subject related to how well the economy is doing and the current level of education of people

lesson to be learn from that is that the economy is driven by middle class people wish is over 90% of the country ( cant back that up ) businesses already have the ability to hire people at will and if a business is ever lacking profit/resources is due to lack of costumers not taxes because taxes dont give they only reduce amount of gain
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Yeah and Obama understand the economy 100%. They're both shitty choices. Get off your high horse.
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Barotix wrote:Yeah and Obama understand the economy 100%. They're both shitty choices. Get off your high horse.
lmao + 1.

but the choice is simple.. people want a change (or atleast say they do) Obama has 1/2 a year of any political knowledge under his belt, which means Mcain has 21 + 1/2 more years of exp than obama. now think who would actually have a better chace about bringing change... and people please tell me in a logical manner how bush was an idiot?
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Barotix wrote:Yeah and Obama understand the economy 100%. They're both shitty choices. Get off your high horse.

Obama is a decent choice he is a highly educated man and does understand the main issues at hand unlike the other fktard wish is beyond a horribad choice. how do i know this ? couse i have heard the problems being listed with solutions unlike on the other party, is very simple folks......i dont expect any1 that keeps telling me over and over again that he has experience couse he was tortured in Vietnam 50 years ago and this somehow makes him the fully understanding one and i need to blindy fallow him........yes blindly fallowing. ill 100% warrantied will go with the guy who is clearly telling me what the problems are and is giving me solutions, this is just common sense and yes they are calling being tortured in Vietnam 50 years ago experience, let me tell you right now i rather have some1 who ate books for 20 years lead the way specially one who is in touch with the public and doesnt only know what is inside the white house

the man isnt perfect by any standards but he is definitely informed of the issues we have couse he has listed them many times over so our voice is there for sure and action will be taken. people in government/president/etc are suppose to be representing the public and fixing the problems they have that is the entire purpose behind you choosing them, they are literally the voice of the people and are not suppost to have their own agendas, ex. being the world's police: war in iraq, this is the idea of an individual and is mainly fallowed by the republican party not of the general public

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Love wrote:
Barotix wrote:Yeah and Obama understand the economy 100%. They're both shitty choices. Get off your high horse.

Obama is a decent choice he is a highly educated man and does understand the main issues at hand unlike the other fktard wish is beyond a horribad choice. how do i know this ? couse i have heard the problems being listed with solutions unlike on the other party, is very simple......i dont expect any1 that keeps telling me that he has experience couse he was tortured in Vietnam 50 years ago and i need to blindy fallow him couse of this. ill 100% warranty will go with the guy who is clearly telling me what the problems are and is giving me solutions, this is just common sense and yes they are calling being tortured in Vietnam 50 years ago experience, let me tell you right now i rather have some1 who ate books for 20 years lead the way specially one who is in touch with the public and doesnt only know what is inside the white house

the man isnt perfect by any standards but he is definitely informed of the issues we have couse he has listed them many times over so our voice is there for sure and action will be taken. people in government/president/etc are suppose to be representing the public and fixing the problems they have couse that is the entire purpose behind you choosing them, they are literally the voice of the people and are not suppost to have their own agenda ex. being the world's police war in iraq, this is the idea of an individual and mainly fallow by the republican party not of the public

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I agree with you so much! The only argument they have against obama is the "experience" card. And its not even an argument. McCain is so retarded. I remember him saying something about keeping our troops in Iraq for 100 years? (Correct me if im wrong)
He wants to do basically what President bush is doing, just change it up a bit. It's clearly not working.

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Barotix wrote:Yeah and Obama understand the economy 100%. They're both shitty choices. Get off your high horse.
lmao + 1.

but the choice is simple.. people want a change (or atleast say they do) Obama has 1/2 a year of any political knowledge under his belt, which means Mcain has 21 + 1/2 more years of exp than obama. now think who would actually have a better chace about bringing change... and people please tell me in a logical manner how bush was an idiot?


Did you seriously ask that question about bush? Also, Barack Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996 and has served from January 1996 to January 2005 when he was elected to the US Senate. He served in the US Senate in various committees and sponsored several bills until 2007 when he announced his campaign for President and has devoted all of his efforts to that cause since.

i loled @ that 1/2 a year bull shit.

ALSO!

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[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:well i dont think obama would be fit to run... well anything. hes not a senetor, a represenetive... nothing.


...No, he is a senator. If the American public is voting purely on Charisma and personality Obama will win hands down. If they're voting based on who (in theory) can run the country better McCain will win. Heres a hint: Americans usually ignore major issues and vote for the guy that "kisses the most babies." Besides, last time I checked ~1/6th of America votes in presidential elections. That 1/6th usually represents those on the far right/left. Hence why we always get extreme presidents rather than moderates. Meh, doesn't matter. Come 2020 and the economy will go:
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US = Democracy: your voice is suppose to be reflected in the government
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Most of America doesn't even vote. ~1/6th.
A]Pass me what you're smoking and let's pretend that's how reality is.
B]Get off the dope and stop dreaming.

Both candidates list what the problem is. Both candidates claim to have "solutions". Neither Candidate knows "their right from their left."

Obama is a decent choice he is a highly educated man

I disagree but this is opinion so I can't really argue against your opinion. To each his own I guess.
does understand the main issues at hand

It doesn't take a genius to know what the problems are.
unlike the other fktard wish is beyond a horribad choice.

Sorry to burst your bubble but McCain is as valid a choice as Obama and has promised (for the most part) the same shit Obama did. McCain's rhetoric just happens to be iffy.
couse i have heard the problems being listed with solutions unlike on the other party

Unless you can link to these short term solutions I'm going to call BS.
.i dont expect any1 that keeps telling me that he has experience couse he was tortured in Vietnam 50 years ago and i need to blindy fallow him couse of this.

Agreed but your reasoning behind supporting Obama isn't very well thought out. Although most reasons for supporting McCain can be summarized with your quote. Really sad :/
ill 100% warranty will go with the guy who is clearly telling me what the problems are and is giving me solutions, this is just common sense

Both know the problems. Both say the problems. Neither has an immediate resolution that will last longer than their term.
the man isnt perfect by any standards but he is definitely informed of the issues we have couse he has listed them many times over so our voice is there for sure and action will be taken.

He is informed but he has no solution yet.
they are literally the voice of the people and are not suppost to have their own agenda

That's great and all but reality doesn't exactly work out well. As a matter of fact the people and Congress disagree on most issues.

When people ask me how McCain/Obama will bring change I tell them with a smile: "Whatever change they plan to bring won't be significant enough to offset the bankruptcy America is heading towards. They're just telling us what we want to hear and not the reality of things."

EDIT:* In recent news the economy has gotten better by 4.3% (or was it .1%? I read that article so long ago I can't even remember) Oh Joy. :roll:
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Did you seriously ask that question about bush?

Answer the question please. I've noticed most people can't really explain how Bush is an idiot. I know he's an idiot but let's pretend I don't know.
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Barotix wrote:Yeah and Obama understand the economy 100%. They're both shitty choices. Get off your high horse.

Obama is a decent choice he is a highly educated man and does understand the main issues at hand unlike the other fktard wish is beyond a horribad choice. how do i know this ? couse i have heard the problems being listed with solutions unlike on the other party, is very simple......i dont expect any1 that keeps telling me that he has experience couse he was tortured in Vietnam 50 years ago and i need to blindy fallow him couse of this. ill 100% warranty will go with the guy who is clearly telling me what the problems are and is giving me solutions, this is just common sense and yes they are calling being tortured in Vietnam 50 years ago experience, let me tell you right now i rather have some1 who ate books for 20 years lead the way specially one who is in touch with the public and doesnt only know what is inside the white house

the man isnt perfect by any standards but he is definitely informed of the issues we have couse he has listed them many times over so our voice is there for sure and action will be taken. people in government/president/etc are suppose to be representing the public and fixing the problems they have couse that is the entire purpose behind you choosing them, they are literally the voice of the people and are not suppost to have their own agenda ex. being the world's police war in iraq, this is the idea of an individual and mainly fallow by the republican party not of the public

US = Democracy: your voice is suppose to be reflected in the government
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I agree with you so much! The only argument they have against obama is the "experience" card. And its not even an argument. McCain is so retarded. I remember him saying something about keeping our troops for 100 years in Iraq? (Correct me if im wrong) He wants to do basically what President bush is doing, just change it up a bit. It's clearly not working.


about the 100 years. Wrong he was using it as an example, that we will finish what was started. and there is no card thats being played against Obama its a known fact, yes you all have the right to vote for whoever. but i want somone with exp in the whitehouse. Obama is the flavor of the month, the only reason he got so far is because he's black. no im not being rasist. and as for the exp. being the only card they have against obama... its not, what about his friends who are known terrorists? and they fact he changes his mind more that kerry did.

yes you all have the right to vote for whoever you want, but Obama is not mine.
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about the 100 years. Wrong he was using it as an example, that we will finish what was started. and there is no card thats being played against Obama its a known fact, yes you all have the right to vote for whoever. but i want somone with exp in the whitehouse. Obama is the flavor of the month, the only reason he got so far is because he's black. no im not being rasist. and as for the exp. being the only card they have against obama... its not, what about his friends who are known terrorists? and they fact he changes his mind more that kerry did.

yes you all have the right to vote for whoever you want, but Obama is not mine.


You do know he is not the first black person to run for president. SO because he is black is not an excuse. If that's the case, i can say McCain is getting some "flavor" because he is white. Race is not an issue.

Here is your Real "McCain"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

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Barotix wrote:Answer the question please. I've noticed most people can't really explain how Bush is an idiot. I know he's an idiot but let's pretend I don't know.

1. He shouldn’t have been elected the first time and only reason he won the 2nd time was because we were in the middle of Iraq war he contrived probably just to get reelected.
2. He’s stupid. He can’t talk and is not a good leader. He’s not a role model anyone can look up to. He does not inspire confidence that he is doing a good job or the right thing. Morons and idiots should be barred from public office because they are not able to handle complex tasks such as running the most powerful nation in the world.
3. He has strong ties to Oil and Gas companies, who think the best solution for becoming less dependant on Foriegn Oil is to invade other countries, spend hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of American lives in a foolhardy task, rather than make a serious investment in next generation fuels.
4. His enviromental policy sucks. He thinks drilling in Alaska Artic preserve is ok. He thinks less restrictions on pollution is ok. He has made no effort to address the Kyoto treaty.
5. He vacations alot, which means he is lazy. He expects other people to the job for him. He always looks to blame other people for his mistakes. (Hurricane Katrina)
6. He is openly Christian and ties his religion too much to his politics. The USA is about equal representation and diversity. We need to work VERY hard on making people other religions feel like they are welcome in our culture. 9/11 and the backlash by anti-western fundamentalists is proof of this. Occupying another nation is NOT the best way to do this.
7. DMCA and the Patriot Act were responsible for the loss of personal freedoms resulting in corporate America and the federal government perscuting the American people unjustly.
8. Very, very bad economic policy resulting in a drastic rise of national debt. Privatizing Social Security is a really bad idea. http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
9. Other countries do not respect him. He is a poor representation of the quality of people who should be leading this nation.
10. Finially, I think he is a horrible president because he starts things but doesn’t finish them (Afganistan/Bin Laden) and also he makes bad decisions and doesn’t admit to them (Iraq).
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:love: Blurred (No Homo).

You do know he is not the first black person to run for president. SO because he is black is not an excuse. If that's the case, i can say McCain is getting some "flavor" because he is white. Race is not an issue.


Funny thing is: Being black didn't change anything. When he ran more southern Blacks registered to vote for him; however, more Southern whites registered to vote against him. I think this will happen to Obama. A lot of racist in this country. They say they don't want him to be president because he's inexperienced but I think that's a shallow excuse meant to hide the truth: Obama isn't a right wing fundamentalist that's white so they won't vote for him but they're willing to further jeopardize our nation's economy by putting pseudo-bush into power. Another matter is that race is an issue for most Americans.
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Snoopy wrote:McCain - http://youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jKkPo&feature=related

ALL VOTE FOR RON PAUL 2012 xD


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Barotix wrote:
Snoopy wrote:McCain - http://youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jKkPo&feature=related

ALL VOTE FOR RON PAUL 2012 xD


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I'll have to wait for that, I've got no idea who that is.

I see every night on the news about American politics =p.
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Snoopy wrote:
Barotix wrote:
Snoopy wrote:McCain - http://youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jKkPo&feature=related

ALL VOTE FOR RON PAUL 2012 xD


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I'll have to wait for that, I've got no idea who that is.

I see every night on the news about American politics =p.


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and mccain agrees with bush 90% of the time....so it's like voting bush in 4 more years...Mccain wants to continue to spent 10 billion dollars a year on a war for oil.
While Obama wants to stop the war and invest in renewable power sources.
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MiKe 51-50 wrote:and mccain agrees with bush 90% of the time....so it's like voting bush in 4 more years...Mccain wants to continue to spent 10 billion dollars a year on a war for oil.
While Obama wants to stop the war and invest in renewable power sources.


Loled. Have you checked the man's voting record?
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_categor ... =9&go.y=11
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_categor ... 16&go.y=13

Yeah, he's sure going to preserve our civil liberties and stop engaging in pointless wars. :roll: :roll:
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The biggest factor for me is that while Obama has some good plans, he's still a democrat. He's shooting for tighter gun laws, and banning assault weapons again. Hillary would've done the same thing. Unfortunately McCain is an old dumbass but since he's a republican he would leave guns alone. Both candidates suck, and each have very few good points.

This country's party system can kiss my ass.
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