republican convention

[John_Doe]

I have yet to see a thread about yesterday's convention in St. Paul...so I'd be the one to start it off then. Presidental canadiate Macain, and this is the 1st speech I've heard from him, and despite all the peeople who said he is boring, I've happen to find his voice clear and very understandable, his speech very indepth yet not so that one would get bored. Macain embodies within himself some of the values I myself value, and he showed how smart he was, by picking Palin as his VP, after the democratic convention Obama's poll rose right...and his speech and his wife's speech were very good...yes...but because of Macain's move with Palin as VP, the newspaper the next day weren't talking of the convention, but instead of Sarah Palins nomination for VP. Now that is a smart move. Any comments? I am for Macain.

[MrFudge]

I felt he had less to say than Obama.
I also didn't like how he presented his speech, his speech writers either suck or he sucks in delivering. Plus, i could care less about how long he was jailed and kept prisoner, and I hated how he kept on saying 'When we're in the white house..' or something remotely close to that which basically (from what i felt) gave him a overconfidence- which he shoudn't be feeling. I also hate his smile, and his peanut-shaped head. Palin sucks and I hate her family, it's too all-american and i laugh at her 17 yr old daughters pregnancy. Needless to say I wouldn't want a republican in the house, i dont want four more years of the last eight.
I have no room to talk though since I can't vote .

[John_Doe]

But the way our country is I wouldn't be surprise if Macain won. It will be an awsome 6 weeks i believe, I intend to stay tuned.

[crazyskwrls]

i really dont think palin was that good of a choice, he is republican and gets alot from religious voters, yet he chose palin whoes daughter is pregnant....
still i support obama

[vivien]

'MACain'? lol

If Mccain beomes president... I just hope his behavior in things like foreign relations isnt anything like his immature little Obama bashing commercials. -_-

And him picking Sarah Palin was a smart move? It was a cheap move imo. She isnt much diffrent, and worse than some other republicans only she isnt male. +1 about her daughter's pregnancy.

Personally I would be even more embarassed to call myself an american if Mccain became President. He is already such a turn-off.

[l05tfr33k7]

and I hated how he kept on saying 'When we're in the white house..' or something remotely close to that which basically (from what i felt) gave him a overconfidence- which he shoudn't be feeling.

both obama and mccain say that. hell, even hillary did before the primaries ended.

Btw did u guys know Palin was (or secretly still is) a member of the Alaskan Independence/Secessionist Party?

Edit: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blog ... ocess.aspx

[John_Doe]

'MACain'? lol

If Mccain beomes president... I just hope his behavior in things like foreign relations isnt anything like his immature little Obama bashing commercials. -_-

And him picking Sarah Palin was a smart move? It was a cheap move imo. She isnt much diffrent, and worse than some other republicans only she isnt male. +1 about her daughter's pregnancy.

Personally I would be even more embarassed to call myself an american if Mccain became President. He is already such a turn-off.

And you are saying that from personal experience because you actually live in the state of Alaska, and arn't just saying something from the news media? I fail to see how her daugther's pregnanacy has anything to do with this. Or is it the only last bit of straw that you guys can pick at. Call it cheap if it makes you feel better. He is such a turnoff? Yea that is a very valid reason.

and I hated how he kept on saying 'When we're in the white house..' or something remotely close to that which basically (from what i felt) gave him a overconfidence- which he shoudn't be feeling.

both obama and mccain say that. hell, even hillary did before the primaries ended.

Btw did u guys know Palin was (or secretly still is) a member of the Alaskan Independence/Secessionist Party?

If you actually look into it and not just read the rumors spread by media and stupid people, you will know that Palin's Husband was the one in the Alaskan Independence/Secessionist Party, wether or not her husband agreed with the party, idk and idc because that is not associated with Palin anyway anyhow. Plz ppl get your facts right.

[l05tfr33k7]

yes the pregnancy issue was hyped up by the media very negatively. they went too far with it.

the more important issue to me is the AIP and her views...not her daughter's personal life.

[John_Doe]

yes the pregnancy issue was hyped up by the media very negatively. they went too far with it.

the more important issue to me is the AIP and her views...not her daughter's personal life.

+1 same here

[Grimm-.-]

God I thought that convention was some type of joke.

[John_Doe]

God I thought that convention was some type of joke. Plz elaborate?

[MrFudge]

Are we all forgetting the real problem here?
McCain looks like a peanut!!!!!

[Grimm-.-]

God I thought that convention was some type of joke. Plz elaborate?

Do I Really Have to lol?
I thought it would be self explanatory.

But Meh... i dont feel like it

... And lol @ Mr. Fudge... I thought he looked more like a troll.

[[TS]=Hark=[TS]]

well i dont think obama would be fit to run... well anything. hes not a senetor, a represenetive... nothing. i liked McCain's speech last night was really good. i could have done without the 10 minutes on his war time, but meh, it shows his backround. to tell the truth idk anything about obama's history except that hes black, mabey thats just me not paying attention or mabey its the media not advertising it enough. but has he even been in the military? i dont think so. and to be the president you will have you run the entire military. how can you do that without any experience at all?

now im not usually a republican but i think i would vote for McCain.

[Barotix]

well i dont think obama would be fit to run... well anything. hes not a senetor, a represenetive... nothing.

...No, he is a senator. If the American public is voting purely on Charisma and personality Obama will win hands down. If they're voting based on who (in theory) can run the country better McCain will win. Heres a hint: Americans usually ignore major issues and vote for the guy that "kisses the most babies." Besides, last time I checked ~1/6th of America votes in presidential elections. That 1/6th usually represents those on the far right/left. Hence why we always get extreme presidents rather than moderates. Meh, doesn't matter. Come 2020 and the economy will go:
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[SM-Count]

Young people are swayed by charisma and form over substance and have the tendency to lean toward left, this is new and exciting.

[John_Doe]

there are young people voting for both parties, and Barotrix people tend to vote for people who tell them what they want to hear. That baby kissing thing doesn't work anymore.

[Barotix]

there are young people voting for both parties, and Barotrix people tend to vote for people who tell them what they want to hear. That baby kissing thing doesn't work anymore.

It was a euphemism (or would metaphor be the correct term here?). =]

[Tasdik]

I'm for McCain

[Blurred]

People tend to forget that Mccain is like another bush! And i really dont like his VP. The only thing they keep saying against obama is that he is inexperienced. No one can really be experienced for being president for the first time.

[[TS]=Hark=[TS]]

People tend to forget that Mccain is like another bush! And i really dont like his VP. The only thing they keep saying against obama is that he is inexperienced. No one can really be experienced for being president for the first time.

this is true. but i fear to many ppl are going to vote for obama just because he is black or because he gives a good speach. but what will he do for us? im not sure of that. good thing i cant vote, my 18bday is in may. i have to wait till next one ><

[Barotix]

People tend to forget that Mccain is like another bush! And i really dont like his VP. The only thing they keep saying against obama is that he is inexperienced. No one can really be experienced for being president for the first time.

this is true. but i fear to many ppl are going to vote for obama just because he is black or because he gives a good speach. but what will he do for us? im not sure of that. good thing i cant vote, my 18bday is in may. i have to wait till next one ><

1]Who cares if he's black, white, yellow, blue, or red. Look beyond the skin and see the individual.
2]The President has to be able to speak well.
3]McCain is trying to distance himself from Bush. He wasn't like Bush when he started so he should save face and stop acting like Bush before he loses w/e appeal he has.
4]His VP is a "super" conservative.

Ron Paul 2012!

[John_Doe]

Just vote and state your reasons...no need to bash or demoralize the other party. I voted and stated my reasons...I did not bash Obama in any way or reason so ppl keep your tongues in check.

Edit: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blog ... ocess.aspx

A new articles article from a media station out of Alaska isn't really gonna prove much, maybe to the ones who are just hoping for one flaw in Palin so they can grab it and blow it out of proportion. If Palin was truely involved in something like that, it would not take some out of state press to dig it, its like questioning any creditblity of anything made by the Alaskan press, media, etc. about Obama's VP.

[Blurred]

People tend to forget that Mccain is like another bush! And i really dont like his VP. The only thing they keep saying against obama is that he is inexperienced. No one can really be experienced for being president for the first time.

this is true. but i fear to many ppl are going to vote for obama just because he is black or because he gives a good speach. but what will he do for us? im not sure of that. good thing i cant vote, my 18bday is in may. i have to wait till next one ><

1]Who cares if he's black, white, yellow, blue, or red. Look beyond the skin and see the individual.
2]The President has to be able to speak well.
3]McCain is trying to distance himself from Bush. He wasn't like Bush when he started so he should save face and stop acting like Bush before he loses w/e appeal he has.
4]His VP is a "super" conservative.

Ron Paul 2012!

I honestly would rather have Ron Paul up there facing Obama.

[MiKe 51-50]

Mccain's pick was horrible and disrespectful to females. He thinks they are stupid enough to vote for him because Obama didn't pick Hilary.
I'm voting for Obama\Biden '08

This is just off the current polls (270 to win)

[crazy_foo]

Ya Obama is a good talker, but will he be good for the country. If u research in depth u will find McCain's policies are better for the U.S. economy, lowering taxes helps the economy, raising will only make the problems worse

[l05tfr33k7]

A new articles article from a media station out of Alaska isn't really gonna prove much, maybe to the ones who are just hoping for one flaw in Palin so they can grab it and blow it out of proportion. If Palin was truely involved in something like that, it would not take some out of state press to dig it, its like questioning any creditblity of anything made by the Alaskan press, media, etc. about Obama's VP.

i dont think u saw this in the article:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqPmKljh ... e_ala.html

that is pretty convincing that she was associated with the AIC.
Or is this an evil twin...

There was another video somewhere about the AIC leaders talking about her specifically and their plans to "infiltrate the major American political parties" for their goals to be acheived.

ii hope im not missing something here. and the idea alone that her husband was only one associated is even enough to reject her on the ticket.

but o well.

Edit: another interesting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=006axc2aELE

[_Scarlett_]

Ya Obama is a good talker, but will he be good for the country. If u research in depth u will find McCain's policies are better for the U.S. economy, lowering taxes helps the economy, raising will only make the problems worse

Worse? Our economy is already in the toilet. Lowering the taxes "seems" good and appealing, but if you've been following either party's platform you'd realize that lowering taxes to accomplish what they're planning isn't possible; raising taxes based off of either candidates platforms are almost eminent.

[Love]

if you are for McCain i could not say anything but that you are stupid and/or dont give a fk, seriously that guy is going to put us in more of a shithole than we already are, there wont be any economy fixtures is just the same old sh1t his taxes cuts are for the rich not for your average american and in case you slept your way through economy class more money on middle class ( like obama is planning ) = more money in the economy = more jobs. drilling for oil in our shores is nothing and i think is pathetic for this to be brought up as a solution to our energy crisis, yes it should be done to reduce prices but this is not a solution this is nothing but a patch we need to shift into new energies forms and in case you dont know how america works every time something extreme like this happens the economy blooms creating millions of new jobs, drilling for oil on our shores is something we should do to keep the boat afloat til the new energy generation arrives, nothing more nothing less doesnt take much to figure this out

also i should mention he is pushing that stupid war that is getting our country into a deficit; that is money better spent somewhere else ! and seriously no shit the country doesnt have a health care system and schools increasingly keep facing budget cuts but we do have 3 trillions to not fix a problem in a other than our own, we paying a country that has close to 90 billions in surplus is not even remotely correct

Obama has an economy plan for the country he has already talked about it, McCain on the other hand says that he will reach to any1 necessary to make things work AKA i dont have a fking clue of what i am/will doing/do, i love how he talks about experience and bs but has knowledge of nothing just like George Bush, this person may have an idea or 2 but knows nothing about the true needs of the country or how the system things really works, definitely not rdy to lead some1 running for president should be highly educated and know/understand the situation the country is in inside and out, is pathetic how this people use intimidation towards the american public and works .....i was speechless when i saw today that McCain and Obama are tied in the polls, specially after hearing him say in his speech something on the nature of 'old Washington dogs change is coming no more me first country second kind of mentality' and at the end he popped that fake smile i just wanted to die ( for god sake the guy was reading line by line that is how he addresses his country !!!!!!!! that is his level of readiness ) i mean honestly people running Washington are me first country second mentality.......seriously, we do have some farked up systems but definitely Washington isn't being run by people with me first country second kind of mentality ( McCain is one of this people and while at it he is getting taxes cuts for himself .....that is your economy plan right there )

i do have an issue with an 71 year old saying every 2 seconds i fought in Vietnam and this is the reason why you should entrust the country to me and if you have any doubts in your heart my VP says i am a hockey mom every 2 secs as well and has a vagina and this makes it somehow revolutionary..... i wish that was sarcasm but that is literally what they are doing

if you want more, education yesterday McCain in his speech said something in the nature of Americans need to be ready to take the jobs + some patriotic bullsh1t, that was what he had to said about education, no i do see how an educated country is more productive making the country by any standard more successful, education is not a money sink the more educated people you have the more you will produce and by a large margin

about the intimidation tactics being used by the Mccain campaign on the american public. he went all out on Obama for months on how inexperience he was and now his VP the woman who is literally a heartbeat away from the job stands as a brilliant rdy to lead person with the same level of experience, this is just how much this guy makes sense. the same McCain that wants to run for president during a RECESSION ADMITTED TO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ECONOMY WORKS i mean what ? how much do you care about your country that when it needs some1 to make things work the way they should and fast you go on and try to claim the spot without a fking clue, just like that of how many houses he had ...... patriotism ? this guy wipes his ass with that

this is very simple folks lets list the problems we all see with the country

economic problems
education problems
health care problems
energy problems
war on land of people who are unwilling to fight for their freedom draining our pockets taking lives

can you fix any of this ? can you fix them all ? no then move fking alone

seriously have you heard Mccain talking about health care issues ? education issues ? solutions ? ill tell you something i heard him talk about, religion and how a 17 year old teenager who has the brain size of a peanut goes and get pregnant and is supposed to be stuck with a baby couse most people apparently believe in god, let me give you a clue: stem call research any1? the huge benefits of this and how this goes against religion? same path dont be mistaken. i want to add that this **** is doing pretty much nothing towards education and expects kids to more so be responsible and not to get pregnant ......no, in case you are wondering this 2 dont go together and not every1 has able parents

i want to finish right here couse mainly is getting late and excuse the lousy grammar but i hope you get the point and have a better idea of how important this elections are and if you can go outhere vote and make a difference towards what you feel is right.

i wanted to add this somewhere but didnt know where but in the past 8 years our country hasnt made any improvements as you can probably tell and the fact that McCain agreed 91% of the time with George W. Bush goes to show you what you will be getting and is not like Dom says that 80% of this are no brainers. do your homework better this is a very real number that impacts the way things are run and remember another fact Obama's plans for the country are written on paper rdy to be executed, McCain's who claims to have experience and rdy to lead on day 1 has them on *contact some1 to figure it out( this is from himself )* imaginary list of the same kind of your other politicians who promise the sky and moon and never deliver anything. i really dont want a president who thinks he can handle a war situation better and cant do anything else couse he was in some war 50 years ago, that is all

[Love]

Ya Obama is a good talker, but will he be good for the country. If u research in depth u will find McCain's policies are better for the U.S. economy, lowering taxes helps the economy, raising will only make the problems worse

i fear when i read things like this, Obama is lowering taxes for middle class ( most people, the consumers that keep the economy moving ) while McCain is only lowering them for rich people wish wont help the situation we are in, he is applying a principal that worked long ago that when you gave to the rich they expanded therefore others got as a side effect but the problem now is that the rich can expand at will and this money wont really go anywhere while the core of the problem still remains ............

uneducated/uninformed people that negate my vote are the worst kind of people ever