Whores

[tedtwilliger]

An American president has NO control over another countries legislation. For new legislation to be passed ( based on Australian law ) the idea needs to be passed through a lot of different comities, there needs to be a majority vote in the lower house ( pretty sure its the lower house ) and if there is going to be any sort of change to the constitution there has to be a referendum. A president of another country cant do it for them, hes not the leader of the world. The president of American has control over the way America is run, not the bloody world. If anything the UN is the only body with the kind of power to fix it.

And your playing on the idea of a outdated stereotype. Do you honestly think that every person in a third world country has 9 kids? Seriously use your head for a second before you type.

[Verfo]

An American president has NO control over another countries legislation. For new legislation to be passed ( based on Australian law ) the idea needs to be passed through a lot of different comities, there needs to be a majority vote in the lower house ( pretty sure its the lower house ) and if there is going to be any sort of change to the constitution there has to be a referendum. A president of another country cant do it for them, hes not the leader of the world. The president of American has control over the way America is run, not the bloody world. If anything the UN is the only body with the kind of power to fix it.

And your playing on the idea of a outdated stereotype. Do you honestly think that every person in a third world country has 9 kids? Seriously use your head for a second before you type.

for the million time, iam not talking about changing their laws or w/e, just give them money, And i used to be from a 3rd world country, and i can tell you this, at least 7/10 couples have 5+ kids

[tedtwilliger]

Oh money fixes everything doesn't it? Just throw a bit of money at them and everything must be solved. They have had their basic human rights destroyed for years but a little bit of cash is gonna make everything better, right?

Also the American economy is going towards a rescission as it is, its hardly th time to be doing such a pointless act.

[Verfo]

Oh money fixes everything doesn't it? Just throw a bit of money at them and everything must be solved. They have had their basic human rights destroyed for years but a little bit of cash is gonna make everything better, right?

Also the American economy is going towards a rescission as it is, its hardly th time to be doing such a pointless act.

yes money will be able to fix alot of everything but not everything, tell me which is better
3rd world country, with no money and everyone starving+no human rights, and no nothing
OR
3rd world country with enough money to feed its people, and making them homes+ no human rights.

[BloodEngel]

My point is you naturally assumed this guy is talking about american law to legislate and you make the assumption that all whores have choice just because "american whores" do.

Dam if there needs to be enforced legislation anywhere it needs to be the third world countries where people have no choice, no human rights and no say in their lives. Hell a large factor of the aids epidemic is due to this kind of crap going on. If action is going to be taken it needs to be there.

Yes, i agree with you, but its not happening, maybe if Obama, or Mccain become president, the can change it, because bassicaly they're the only that can, and Then those 3rd world country should also take part of that blame, maybe they think before having 9 kids.

If you look at my statistics less STD's comes from it than most people think. The majority of them are safety aware. A much higher rate of comes from teens.

The part in bold I wanted to point out because if everyone takes that attitude nothing will ever change. That type of attitude is how people become controlled.

[tedtwilliger]

Money runs out, governments tie it up in their own pockets and nothing is ever changed. You think no one has tried giving them money before? Ever heard of the "xxxxx" amount of charity fund which exist for this? But the problem is still here, isn't it?

For some sort of permanent solution the UN needs to step in, there needs to be reform in the countries legislation, find some way to actually enforce the new legislation and work for a dam long time to cure the injustices and corruption that are present.

Simply throwing some money fixes nothing. Between the "xxxxxxxxxx" amount of people in the country each individuals cut is incredibly small, if the money is even used correctly it will feed them for only a brief period and they dont learn the basic principals of economic management like most people do. They have only lived their style of life, they haven't had the opportunity to live like we do, have a weekly income and a secure sense of mortality like privileged people do. How can they budget and use any sort of money efficiently when they haven't had a chance to do it before?

( This is where i need someone like gramps to explain my point a lot better, its early and collecting my thoughts is quite difficult )

[Verfo]

Money runs out, governments tie it up in their own pockets and nothing is ever changed. You think no one has tried giving them money before? Ever heard of the "xxxxx" amount of charity fund which exist for this? But the problem is still here, isn't it?

For some sort of permanent solution the UN needs to step in, there needs to be reform in the countries legislation, find some way to actually enforce the new legislation and work for a dam long time to cure the injustices and corruption that are present.

Simply throwing some money fixes nothing. Between the "xxxxxxxxxx" amount of people in the country each individuals cut is incredibly small, if the money is even used correctly it will feed them for only a brief period and they dont learn the basic principals of economic management like most people do. They have only lived their style of life, they haven't had the opportunity to live like we do, have a weekly income and a secure sense of mortality like privileged people do. How can they budget and use any sort of money efficiently when they haven't had a chance to do it before?

( This is where i need someone like gramps to explain my point a lot better, its early and collecting my thoughts is quite difficult )

ok you win

[tedtwilliger]

Win? We are simply expression our ideas and perspectives on an issue. Since when was this about winning?

[Verfo]

i mean iam tired of discussing it, and yu proved your point right

[blackfalcon]

wut are you talking about?
i just said if they are in america, then they could get a job easly
if they're not then they should consider all their options first then if nothing works they can do that.

and iam not american

ugh.... no offense to you or anything, but i really dont understand where people get these ideas that america is some country full of millionaires with people wiping their asses with hundred dollar bills watching the rest of the wort destroy itself. maybe its cuz of the media and america not wanting to look bad, but if you actually live here you know its far from perfect. some areas are really nice, full of rich people, but most places are a 3rd world country, but you would never hear bush say that. dont believe me? come to la, or go to detroit, new york, chicago, and a ton of other places. easy to get a job? when more than 50% of the people that live in an area are unemployed, i think that says something about how easy it is to have a job. again, no offense to u verfo

\rant

ot: i agree with the people who said they're forced into prostition. when you cant get a job and you have to pay bills, what are you going to do? if you a girl you have 2 choices: die, or be a prostitute. which one do you think most would pick if they had to feed 2-4 other people?

[Verfo]

/rant

I imagine it like this...

lets say part of america got destroyed, they will try to rebuild it, what i was trying to say is that if Europe and the us made a contribution together to those countries where they could build factories, make people work for money /food, cuz thats only way its gonna work.

[Love]

freedom = being able to sell yourself couse is your fing body

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

Did any of the last few people to post even read this? I would give some more input but I already covered the area of STD's in my post. The conditions many of them live in I wouldn't consider "greed". I'm not going to go to repeat myself over again though as I don't like repeating myself.

Also and for the "they will die soon enough, hopefully comment". It's bad enough wishing death on them but it's even worse if you bothered looking at how some of them are picked up by pimps at a young age and put on the street to work when they turn 18 which you would have known if you did any reading. I think most people have enough humanity not to wish death on children. I hope that was sarcasm, really.

I have a bad sence of humor. I didn't mean that the prositutes are greedy.


I'm assuming they have quite a tough life. But to be honest if they are
on those streets because they need drug money then I won't feel the tiniest
bit sorry. I meant greed and power make people do stupid or sometimes
horrible things. Talking about certain business men (mainly the power part), I was suffering to pimps and stuff with greed. As they destroy
lives and hurt their loved ones so much to fill their wallet. Not good.

And if they are on the streets 'cause of drugs the death part was serious.
In other circumstances I was been a bit sarcastic.


This is a little off topic but you said "I think most people have enough humanity not to wish death on children". If someone wished death
on some innocent kid everyone would be like oh your a &%^*. But most
of you here (this is an assumption haha) eat meat, buy leather and fur,
drink milk, eat eggs ect. You are not just wishing death on an animal,
but funding the torture and eventual death of that animal when most dietitians
say that the human body strives on a plant based diet if you eat the
correct foods.

Point of that? Personally I don't think we should be talking about humanity when everyone is willing do to such disgusting things to fill their stomach.

I'm tired haha so forgive me if alot of that didn't make great sence.

I doupt anyone here, or almost anyone anywhere is going to help them.
Not many people do stuff that doesn't directing benefit them. Even if
they did I'm not exactly sure how to help other than stealing them and
letting them live with you or what ever but then your TV will be gone the next morning :S

[XuChu]

A prostitute is a deep pit; an adulterous woman is treacherous. She hides and waits like a robber, looking for another victim who will be unfaithful to his wife.

...But our bodies were not made for sexual immorality...

From this we can say that prostitutes, and adulterous women are sinful, and so are those who practice deeds of sexual immorality.

The woman, recognizing Christ for who He is, brought a bottle of expensive perfume to Him. In regret and repentance, the woman wept and poured perfume on His feet, wiping it with her hair. When the Pharisees criticized Jesus for accepting this act of love from the "immoral" woman, He admonished them and accepted the woman's worship. Because of her faith, Christ had forgiven all her sins and she was received into His kingdom

However, even the worst of prostitutes, adulterous women, people who practice deeds of sexual immorality, can be forgiven if they truly repent.

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In fact those who refuse to accept that they have sinned, are worse than prostitutes.

Prostitution though immoral, is not beyond the lord's compassion.

[Verfo]

A prostitute is a deep pit; an adulterous woman is treacherous. She hides and waits like a robber, looking for another victim who will be unfaithful to his wife.

...But our bodies were not made for sexual immorality...

From this we can say that prostitutes, and adulterous women are sinful, and so are those who practice deeds of sexual immorality.

The woman, recognizing Christ for who He is, brought a bottle of expensive perfume to Him. In regret and repentance, the woman wept and poured perfume on His feet, wiping it with her hair. When the Pharisees criticized Jesus for accepting this act of love from the "immoral" woman, He admonished them and accepted the woman's worship. Because of her faith, Christ had forgiven all her sins and she was received into His kingdom

are you a muslim or christian??? cuz iam rly confused right now
However, even the worst of prostitutes, adulterous women, people who practice deeds of sexual immorality, can be forgiven if they truly repent.

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In fact those who refuse to accept that they have sinned, are worse than prostitutes.

Prostitution though immoral, is not beyond the lord's compassion.

[XuChu]

are you a muslim or christian??? cuz iam rly confused right now

I've always been Christian, however you may be confused because I have quoted from the Qu'ran and Hadith however, that was because my original intention was to remove any misunderstandings of Islam, as from my experience its been seen as an evil religion.
However, recently I've been proved wrong, people seem to be against God and Christendom. So now I'm going to put Christ before Islam.

Any ways, those examples I chose are relevant even to Muslim, though they could have chose 'better' ones.

[Verfo]

are you a muslim or christian??? cuz iam rly confused right now

I've always been Christian, however you may be confused because I have quoted from the Qu'ran and Hadith however, that was because my original intention was to remove any misunderstandings of Islam, as from my experience its been seen as an evil religion.
However, recently I've been proved wrong, people seem to be against God and Christendom. So now I'm going to put Christ before Islam.

Any ways, those examples I chose are relevant even to Muslim, though they could have chose 'better' ones.

after watching that fetna movie, i think it is

[XuChu]

after watching that fetna movie, i think it is

Well then, may I suggest you reading a bit about Islam from Muslims.
Lets speak no more of this subject here, its irrelevant to the OP.

[Draquish]

I've always been Christian, however you may be confused because I have quoted from the Qu'ran and Hadith however, that was because my original intention was to remove any misunderstandings of Islam, as from my experience its been seen as an evil religion.
However, recently I've been proved wrong, people seem to be against God and Christendom. So now I'm going to put Christ before Islam.

Any ways, those examples I chose are relevant even to Muslim, though they could have chose 'better' ones.

Exodus 20:3

[XuChu]

Exodus 20:3

Because I want to clear misunderstandings of Islam, does not mean I am Muslim. And in this case, Muslims would dispute if it is worshipping another God.

[John_Doe]

No...I'd killed my sons and daughters if they ever did commit such an act (unless it was a life and death thing). I'd kill the guy/women who forces anyone I deeply know into postitution without mercy. And about postitution at young age cause of aduction/buying from 3rd world countries, We as a single person can't do much about it. Postitution like slavery has been with us from the start not gonna see it disappearing anytime soon.

[TOloseGT]

human trafficking gives prostitution a bad name

[Love]

human trafficking gives prostitution a bad name

this made me lol

[blackfalcon]

No...I'd killed my sons and daughters if they ever did commit such an act (unless it was a life and death thing). I'd kill the guy/women who forces anyone I deeply know into postitution without mercy. And about postitution at young age cause of aduction/buying from 3rd world countries, We as a single person can't do much about it. Postitution like slavery has been with us from the start not gonna see it disappearing anytime soon.

i agree. trying to stop it would be like trying to get rid of drugs, nvr going to happen

[XuChu]

We as a single person can't do much about it. Postitution like slavery has been with us from the start not gonna see it disappearing anytime soon.

But nothing would ever happen if every 'single' person thinks they can't do much about things as a 'single' person.

[John_Doe]

We as a single person can't do much about it. Postitution like slavery has been with us from the start not gonna see it disappearing anytime soon.

But nothing would ever happen if every 'single' person thinks they can't do much about things as a 'single' person.

Point out someone who change the world without the support of anyone.

[XuChu]

Point out someone who change the world without the support of anyone.

What does that have to do with what I said?
And, God did. He created the world without the support of anyone.

[TOloseGT]

And, God did. He created the world without the support of anyone.

real human beings please

[John_Doe]

Point out someone who change the world without the support of anyone.

What does that have to do with what I said?
And, God did. He created the world without the support of anyone.

Well I'm trying to prove my point, that wether you think or don't think that a single person can change (do something of universal scale) the world, that they just can't. How did god change the world(Earth) by creating the world?

[XuChu]

But nothing would ever happen if every 'single' person thinks they can't do much about things as a 'single' person.

That's what I was originally saying, I was discouraging the philosophy of we can't do anything on our own so lets do nothing, and advocating the everybody lets not think whether we can do it or not and just do it philosophy.