I'm SP farming for rogue, so I'll have enough SP no doubt. But I need to figure out my subclass.
From what I've learned and read:
Bard = speed and PvE protection.
Cleric = living longer.
Which is better for PvP? Cleric, right? Does Holy Word matter when you hit lvl 70+?
I'd really like Noise and March series though, from Bard.
Which buffs stick when you go stealth? Do any bard or cleric buffs stick? Is stealth even useful? I hear P2k edit makes stealth users visible. :S
Who here has experience as Bard or Cleric with Rogue?
Please help me out. Thanks!
Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?
Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?

Build: Bard/wiz sub.
Current level: 2x
154k SP and growing
Re: Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?
BUMP
I've read the guides, I guess what I want here is tips and information from actual rogue users who are high lvls (70+) on which sub class is most helpful all around.
I've read the guides, I guess what I want here is tips and information from actual rogue users who are high lvls (70+) on which sub class is most helpful all around.

Build: Bard/wiz sub.
Current level: 2x
154k SP and growing
Re: Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?
get lvl 20 in bard get ur noise and get moving march or jsut take bard to lvl 40 then get cleric to lvl 50 and rogue to 90 xD maybe??
Life throws ya curve balls, and theres only one way to take it you choose..
Re: Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?
Thats easy lol get cleric from the clerics protection u dont need noise trust me rogues are fast as they are and if u want to party find a party with a bard and a cleric in it so u dont have to worry about healing yourself imo party lvls faster then solo
Life throws ya curve balls, and theres only one way to take it you choose..
Re: Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?
gumahbear wrote:Thats easy lol get cleric from the clerics protection u dont need noise trust me rogues are fast as they are and if u want to party find a party with a bard and a cleric in it so u dont have to worry about healing yourself imo party lvls faster then solo
Party is faster than solo, because of pt mobs and such. But I only want 1 subclass, and I want to know about PvE and PvP.
And please only post if you have experience as a rogue over lvl 50.
Thanks.

Build: Bard/wiz sub.
Current level: 2x
154k SP and growing
Re: Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?
This can be closed. Sorry for making a pointless thread, I found a different thread with the info I need.
Sorry for the trouble. ^.^
Sorry for the trouble. ^.^

Build: Bard/wiz sub.
Current level: 2x
154k SP and growing
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Re: Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?
Kayson wrote:This can be closed. Sorry for making a pointless thread, I found a different thread with the info I need.
Sorry for the trouble. ^.^
np
HELOOOOOOOO........IS IT U???
Re: Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?
omgomg123 wrote:Kayson wrote:This can be closed. Sorry for making a pointless thread, I found a different thread with the info I need.
Sorry for the trouble. ^.^
np
I think you need to quit spamming threads. -_-"
I was talking to the mods/admins when I apologized.

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Current level: 2x
154k SP and growing
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Re: Rogue subclass. Whatcha think?
Celric PVP
Bard PVE
Cleric pros:
1. Bless (You will need to be able to kill giants your level without relying on Kb/d)
2. RD When used with bless, you can tank well, its a great skill.
3. Holy Spell Immunity. destroys warlocks/force builds.
4. Ress your friends, great for jobbing.
5. IF you farm a lot, buffs are great for jobbing aswell.
Bard Pros:
Noise: Nice for giants, but bless you can tank giant and the 2-4 mobs that would hit you.
Moving march: Saves money, but is entirely useless when you can afford a 100% speed pot.
IMO, Cleric is way better for pvp, while bard sub will level faster.
Bard PVE
Cleric pros:
1. Bless (You will need to be able to kill giants your level without relying on Kb/d)
2. RD When used with bless, you can tank well, its a great skill.
3. Holy Spell Immunity. destroys warlocks/force builds.
4. Ress your friends, great for jobbing.
5. IF you farm a lot, buffs are great for jobbing aswell.
Bard Pros:
Noise: Nice for giants, but bless you can tank giant and the 2-4 mobs that would hit you.
Moving march: Saves money, but is entirely useless when you can afford a 100% speed pot.
IMO, Cleric is way better for pvp, while bard sub will level faster.