Do you guys believe in god?

[NuclearSilo]

For me, i dont call him God as u do.

Existence is the mother of all.
If there is God, it means that God exists. If God exists, it's because the existence gave him birth.

If God doesnt exist, it's because he is the son of the None.

By looking at the simple semantic way, u think that the None is the oposite of the Existence. But actually it's not. If there is smt called None, it's because it exists, therefore it's the baby of the Existence.

For u, God is someone who creates everything => God = Existence
But still, God exists => Existence >= God

Existence has created 2 forces: the dark and the light. Light controls happiness, while dark controls unhappiness. Everything in this world has its opposite: matter/anti-matter, happiness/unhapiness, luck/bad luck. Without the opposite, there is no limit that seperate 2 sides, one cant define if other doesnt exist, therefore both cannot exist. That's the rule of existence. Existence creates all.


Beleive in high-being? Yes. That's the Existence.

Next question: why do you always beleive that "God" is a "someone", who has a shape like humain, and not "something" (like the Existence i mention above) ?

[MasterKojito]

Gods plan can't be understood [completely] by mankind. Some blame god for pain and suffering. However they are blinded by ignorance. The life that we are living is only temporary, what waits us in the future [afterlife or w/e you want to call it] depends on what happens with our lives here on Earth. I can't say for sure, but everything that happens has a deeper meaning that we aren't capable to understand.

For example, a man lives in a house in suburbia and works everyday. His parents were devoted Catholics and they brought him up in the Catholic manner. On most sundays he would attend church for the liturgy. He would thank god for everything he has and the good things that happen in life. Over time he starts to forget god and make the excuse that he is busy with work. Then god lets (lets, he doesn't do it himself)some thing bad happen (eg. someone close dies, house burns down or w/e). Then the man remembers god and gets back on track of being a devoted catholic.

The next point I want to point out is time. According to the bible god has always existed. He created time, meaning that nothing *made* god as he was always there. An argument to this is that time is infinite, however according to the apocalypse this world will end. Meaning time (according to the holy scriptures) is not infinite.

I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just giving my opinion/argument.

[Xyzzzy]

The next point I want to point out is time. According to the bible god has always existed. He created time, meaning that nothing *made* god as he was always there. An argument to this is that time is infinite, however according to the apocalypse this world will end. Meaning time (according to the holy scriptures) is not infinite.

I understood everything but this paragraph. Did you just flip flop on your position?

If I'm reading that right it says that time is infinite according to the bible, but also according to the bible time will end.

Contradicting yourself isn't good >.<

[MasterKojito]

The next point I want to point out is time. According to the bible god has always existed. He created time, meaning that nothing *made* god as he was always there. An argument to this is that time is infinite, however according to the apocalypse this world will end. Meaning time (according to the holy scriptures) is not infinite.

I understood everything but this paragraph. Did you just flip flop on your position?

If I'm reading that right it says that time is infinite according to the bible, but also according to the bible time will end.

Contradicting yourself isn't good >.<

I was bringing up the argument/*fact* that science gives >.<

[Xyzzzy]

The next point I want to point out is time. According to the bible god has always existed. He created time, meaning that nothing *made* god as he was always there. An argument to this is that time is infinite, however according to the apocalypse this world will end. Meaning time (according to the holy scriptures) is not infinite.

I understood everything but this paragraph. Did you just flip flop on your position?

If I'm reading that right it says that time is infinite according to the bible, but also according to the bible time will end.

Contradicting yourself isn't good >.<

I was bringing up the argument/*fact* that science gives >.<

oh sorry, I misread

[Pally]

I believe in god, but I question his existence all the time. So the away I see it in my mind, I rather believe than get $%^&ed in the end.

But I always try to choose doing the good thing rather than the bad in the end, because that is the person I am and I cannot help it. So I do not drink, do drugs, or have sex(until marriage), maybe its just the away I was raised, but those are the values I believe in.

[cpinney]

SO WHO MADE GOD?

[crazyskwrls]

pascal's wager is for pussies

[Homie]

Spoiler!

Don't click this link.

[andrejat]

Believe in god?

There is no god.

[XemnasXD]

we've done this discussion b4 with a generally more intelligent lot...

[Alterran]

lol there was a thread a lot like thsi about 6 months ago
and trust me it ended badly, verry badly

[Asteroid]

I believe in god, but I question his existence all the time. So the away I see it in my mind, I rather believe than get $%^&ed in the end.

But I always try to choose doing the good thing rather than the bad in the end, because that is the person I am and I cannot help it. So I do not drink, do drugs, or have sex(until marriage), maybe its just the away I was raised, but those are the values I believe in.

id rather go to hell than believe in something that has no record of existence except beliefs.

[Verfo]

why the hell are we discusing this again? for the 1829832674074256278463543 time? its just beliefs, either you believe or not. No one cares eitherway =/

[Pawnage]

God started evolution.

I win

big bang started evolution. science wins

as close as the big bang is to fact with all scientists' evidence, it is still just a theory

[Grandpa]

Can anyone out there tell me something you think god made or did so i can counterargument and then someone tell if my counterargument made sense. Im on the border line between being an atheist or agnostic.

If you can believe the premise of this thread certainly believing in anything else is understandable.

Mmmmm.... I'm not sure. Flipping a coin to choose between Atheist and Agnostic seems too arbitrary. I know what I'll do! I'll go to the Silkroad Online forum and ask people who believe in God - that's the ticket!!

[Reise]

A lot of theories science has for creation are quite iffy, but you gotta remember like Pawnage here said, they are just theories. The wrong thing to do would be to assume theories are truth.

[RiceFarmer]

Anyway I don't believe there's a god.

I don't feel like writing right now... I'll probably write something later

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[Grimm-.-]

I Decided to just live my life and not worry about it.
I am an atheist but arguments like this will never end. SoO.
I'll save my brain power for productive things. LIKE SRO!

[Barotix]

VenomFangX is an idiot. PM Grandpa for some insightful information.

[Grimm-.-]

VenomFangX is an idiot. PM Grandpa for some insightful information.

O noz. Your going to flood Granps with pm'es!!!
1 At a time!!!!!!

[RiceFarmer]

VenomFangX is an idiot. PM Grandpa for some insightful information.

Mind explaining how he is an idiot?

[Pawnage]

i've watched all of VenomFangX vids before he took them down. Its fun to see how he goes about things.

[speeble]

The Sacrilegious Scorn

Have I not
Been too long in the shadows of invention and creation
As I rightfully behold the flesh
Fear of the conscious mind will have you facing away

My word and world holds ground and is real
Your word is like floods of poisoned water
A language spoken with spit from different tongues

It all seems like an eternity
This battle between us two
"Good and evil"
Me and you

Time has come to step up
And take back what you took from me

My word and world holds ground and is real
Your word is like floods of poisoned water
A language spoken with spit from different tongues
You can never corrupt me again

Time has come to step up
And take back what you took from me
You can never corrupt me again

I protect every man guilty of sin
The ultimate sin being me
The vapor from the plague
That infested my mind, body and soul
Obscured my view from wisdom
The mist that had me wonder in resentment cleared
And troubles me no more

[XuChu]

id rather go to hell than believe in something that has no record of existence except beliefs.

I sincerely hope you didn't mean that.

Some of you seem to hate religious people who do abit too much to share their beliefs. I do go with Mohammad on this one "There should be no compulsion in religion."

And if you think religion is just about not believing and going to hell, then you have very little understanding of religion.

When Joshua died, soon the people of Israel under the influence of the Canaanites, began to worship Baal and forgot about God.
Just like today, many of us forget about God and believe in something else. This is all normal and its happened many times before, God is not surprised.

It seems some of you think that you are 'wiser' in not believing because those who believe follow blindly. I would be bold enough to say you've not read a single scripture before you made your judgement.

All I can do is pray, for those who have wronged God here today; forgiveness, and for those who faithless; faith.

[speeble]

id rather go to hell than believe in something that has no record of existence except beliefs.

I sincerely hope you didn't mean that.

Some of you seem to hate religious people who do abit too much to share their beliefs. I do go with Mohammad on this one "There should be no compulsion in religion."

And if you think religion is just about not believing and going to hell, then you have very little understanding of religion.

When Joshua died, soon the people of Israel under the influence of the Canaanites, began to worship Baal and forgot about God.
Just like today, many of us forget about God and believe in something else. This is all normal and its happened many times before, God is not surprised.

It seems some of you think that you are 'wiser' in not believing because those who believe follow blindly. I would be bold enough to say you've not read a single scripture before you made your judgement.

All I can do is pray, for those who have wronged God here today; forgiveness, and for those who faithless; faith.

I don't believe in any higher beings.. Idk but if I was a god I wouldn't be letting people die from AIDS and other shit like that.. It'd be a nice world we live in <.<... Force to goto church as a child, but now I'm free of that bull shit -.-"

[dom]

It seems some of you think that you are 'wiser' in not believing because those who believe follow blindly. I would be bold enough to say you've not read a single scripture before you made your judgement.

I lol'd IRL. Really loud too.

[Reise]

Religion is basically this: Live like this, or go to hell!

I don't feel like living that way. So screw that.

Edit: And in medieval terms: Live like this, or f*cking die.

[XuChu]

I don't believe in any higher beings.. Idk but if I was a god I wouldn't be letting people die from AIDS and other shit like that.. It'd be a nice world we live in <.<... Force to goto church as a child, but now I'm free of that bull shit -.-"

The problem is you are not God, I'm sorry you were forced to go to church you shouldn't have been.
Faith in God is not about God proving to us of his existence, or believing him because you think he will give you happiness etc. Faith in God is about, believing in God and his holy spirit, and believing that he is with you, living life with good morals, all this should bring happiness. Which is the reason why religion should not be compulsory, if it was, there would be no joy. Which is why many Christian raised children do not believe.

Religion is basically this: Live like this, or go to hell!

I don't feel like living that way. So screw that.

Edit: And in medieval terms: Live like this, or f*cking die.

You've made your point in an earlier post, and it shows your understanding of religion is little. Which is not your fault because you haven't the fortune to be exposed it.

[dom]

Religion is basically this: Live like this, or go to hell!

I don't feel like living that way. So screw that.

Edit: And in medieval terms: Live like this, or f*cking die.

You've made your point in an earlier post, and it shows your understanding of religion is little. Which is not your fault because you haven't the fortune to be exposed it.

How do you know that he's never had the fortune to be exposed to it? Just because someone isn't a religious fundamentalist doesn't mean they weren't exposed to religion.

Some are born into it, participate in it, live it; then decide that religion is not for them or that religion is wrong. Living religiously or understanding it doesn't result in an ultimate faith in God. Many could argue that reading scripture, being exposed to religion, and understanding fundamental beliefs would lead one to not be religious.

You can't disregard the way a personal feels or what that person thinks just because you don't come up to the same conclusion. I used to think that all religious people were idiots and ignorant - I was wrong. What I learned is that no single person will come up with the same conclusions after having lived, understood, or read the same exact things. You can't judge someone for believing in something different than you.

Condescending people like you on both sides of the debate give everyone a bad reputation. You can argue that what someone else believes doesn't make sense to you, but you can't argue that the reason someone doesn't think like you is because they haven't reached some paramount level reason and reflexion that in all your brilliance you've managed to summit - unless you're a scientologist.