Knockdown % and Soul Spear Soul %

cuchulainn · Post by **cuchulainn** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:14 am

Last night, I was bored so I did some cape fighting with a level 70 glaiver in my guild. Fight lasted a few minutes and then I died after a nice crit. Afterwards, I decided to test KD % and Soul-Spear Soul's stun.

For Knockdown, I used my maxed book 1 KD which is level 53. 17 level difference. Out of 50 tries, it succeeded 21 times for a result of 42%. I'm not sure if that's a significant difference or not because I haven't done any t-tests or anything, but it does seem to show that KD chances don't reduce that much. Maybe around 0.5% per level difference, but still not very big.

Next, I had my guildie do 50 Soul Spear Souls on me and I kept track of how many times it stunned.

Out of 50 SSS w/o my shield on, 14 stunned for a result of 28%. This leads me to conclude (again without t-tests to confirm my hypothesis...ya shoot me, I'm lazy) that SSS as a whole has a 30% chance to stun. Not a 30% chance per hit. This is about 14% per hit.

Conclusions:

Knockdown's probability most likely reduces as the difference between level of skill and level of opponent increase, but not by very much

AND

Soul-Spear Soul's two hits taken together have a total chance of 30% to stun rather than 30% per hit

Priam · Post by **Priam** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:19 am

14% per hit.. dissapointing really.

cuchulainn · Post by **cuchulainn** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:52 am

Priam wrote:14% per hit.. dissapointing really.

Yeah, my guildie said she likes Soul Spear Truth better for stunning

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:53 am

I'd actually be really interested in doing some statistically significant tests on this. EG, get a few people to see which gives the best different.

Lvl 70 with maxed KD (Might have to be an int to keep the KD from killing people)
Lvl 20 (i think..not sure which lvl KD starts) with 1st lvl KD
lvl 70 with 1st lvl KD (shouldn't be too hard to find someone lvl 70 with like 100 sp to spare)

One of these three should have a very different %age of successful KD than the other two, which tells us which is the modifier, if there is any. Maybe get some people also with maxed book 1, book 2, etc to make sure there's no difference in between the different books of KD.

arretjescake · Post by **arretjescake** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:15 am

but two times 14% don't make 30 %. % don't add up, they make average.

superblur · Post by **superblur** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:57 am

no he was saying it was 28% total... and since it was two hits... he simply divided it by two... which equals 14%... no adding was done...

but i still think that it is 30% as a whole.... as in the game already decides weather or not the WHOLE move stuns.... which hit it stuns you on is just random... ***IMO***

cuchulainn · Post by **cuchulainn** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:14 am

superblur wrote:no he was saying it was 28% total... and since it was two hits... he simply divided it by two... which equals 14%... no adding was done...

but i still think that it is 30% as a whole.... as in the game already decides weather or not the WHOLE move stuns.... which hit it stuns you on is just random... ***IMO***

No, I actually didn't do that. If 30% is the probability for the skill. Then (1-x)(1-x)=.7 where x is the probability of stun on one hit. Simple probability math.

It is 30% as a whole.

BlindSpear · Post by **BlindSpear** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:38 am

I have SSS for 3 levels now. From my experience in cape figthing and from killing mobs i have the big impression that only the first hit does the stun and that it has a 30% chance of stunning.