Russia vs Georgia?

[The Mobius]

so i heard Georgia has peaches....

yes, coca cola factory too

Negative on the coca cola factory, that was taken out last week.

[Feudal_lord]

Russia kills but USA doesnt?I thnik USA is the dangerous not Russia ?Iraq and nowIran then????????

The bush administration in recent years has made efforts to reverse blunders they have made in the past with actions including: Treaties+Aid with/for N.Korea, Peace Talks with Iran, reversal of aggressive actions in Iraq, Peace Talks between Israel and Palestine (in hopes of creating a Palestinian nation), and finally more than 6 billion in funds towards slowing the progress of AIDs in Africa. What has Russia done?

Heroo, hush.

Peace talks with Iran? I remember that time before 2003 Peace Talks with Iraq and look today USA in Iraq killinf civilians,raping women ,even kills kids?Why USA attacked Iraq?To protect people from weapons that Iraq had or for oil and middle east project?On the other hand USA has the sam weapons even more that Iraq had so USA can have A-Bombs but Iraq cant?I hope Ahmedinejat can have one

[cpinney]

ok for one US and coalition forces arnt killing children and raping women, so u can get that out of your head. second of all unstable countrys with nuclear weapons? yeah that sounds like a great idea so just encase a terrorist group or a enraged dictator happens to get ahold of them they could nuke just about any country they wanted in the middle east.

[Key-J]

I know this is 7 days late... BUT!!!!:

isnt georgia in america , above florida

:D:D:D:D:D:D *Feels Proud*

On a serious note though, this really did turn from a nothing to a huge something in under 6 seconds.

Hopefully they will sort all this crap out, i cant be bothered with another war at the moment. Especially one as unpredictable as this...

Its not worth it Imho... some misunderstanding which got blown out of proportion

[Feudal_lord]

First American and other soldiers kill civiliand and rape women.I dont even doubt it.Soldiers who came home from Iraq confessed this several times?And second of all you say dictator could gonna nuke at this momment your right but you miss something isnt USA is the first and olny country who nuked on civlians? This proves all thing USA has been killing civilians for years in Iraq maybe in Iran.And if USA against A-Bombs then why Israel,N Korea,England,Russia have it oh sorry becaouse USA cant dare a war against em

[Barotix]

First American and other soldiers kill civiliand and rape women.I dont even doubt it.Soldiers who came home from Iraq confessed this several times?And second of all you say dictator could gonna nuke at this momment your right but you miss something isnt USA is the first and olny country who nuked on civlians? This proves all thing USA has been killing civilians for years in Iraq maybe in Iran.And if USA against A-Bombs then why Israel,N Korea,England,Russia have it oh sorry becaouse USA cant dare a war against em

I'm writing you off as an ignoramus. Cheers then and back on course:
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!!
RUSSIA, FUCK YEAH!!
IRAQ, FUCK YEAH!!
GEORGIA, FUCK YEAH!!

[Feudal_lord]

coz of i am telling truth?

[Barotix]

coz of i am telling truth?

No, you're not telling the truth. You're regurgitating propaganda that I'm tired of arguing against. Seriously people. Work with me here, don't come to a gun fight with a sword and expect to be taken seriously.

[Feudal_lord]

I believe i am telling the truth.Maybe u are tellin against coz of u werent told realy news by anyone.What you see on US tv are the propoganda if your talking about propoganda.I will always say US has not right to be in Iraq and kill civilians.Iraq was better before USA attaking.USA has tons of A-Bomb but Bush still against em so funny ha

[cpinney]

First American and other soldiers kill civiliand and rape women.I dont even doubt it.Soldiers who came home from Iraq confessed this several times?And second of all you say dictator could gonna nuke at this momment your right but you miss something isnt USA is the first and olny country who nuked on civlians? This proves all thing USA has been killing civilians for years in Iraq maybe in Iran.And if USA against A-Bombs then why Israel,N Korea,England,Russia have it oh sorry becaouse USA cant dare a war against em

im gona take the same road as baro here and just ignore u until u get something worth arguing over, cause all u have is propaganda from w/e country u live in.

[crazyskwrls]

eh... n korea has nukes? since when... i thought they faked it.....

[Feudal_lord]

yes the lies from USA not propaganda but truth is well done.Just i wanna ask you one question just one pls can u tell me why USA has A-Bombs even though we were told the reason of Iraq were bombs and Russia and others have A-Bombs have em too oh yes they are strong they can do anything they want i am sorry

[heroo]

First American and other soldiers kill civiliand and rape women.I dont even doubt it.Soldiers who came home from Iraq confessed this several times?And second of all you say dictator could gonna nuke at this momment your right but you miss something isnt USA is the first and olny country who nuked on civlians? This proves all thing USA has been killing civilians for years in Iraq maybe in Iran.And if USA against A-Bombs then why Israel,N Korea,England,Russia have it oh sorry becaouse USA cant dare a war against em

im gona take the same road as baro here and just ignore u until u get something worth arguing over, cause all u have is propaganda from w/e country u live in.

Haven't heard any good arguments from you so far

[The Mobius]

I think Feudal lord is just trying to voice an opinion that is over-cast by emotions.

I kinda get where he is coming from though. Though if im not mistaken it's the private war companys that are doing the shoot-on-sight dealio, rather than the US army. I mean sure there have been cases of US army rougue soldier crimes (i.e abu ghuraib), but other than that it's pretty much nothing beyond the war-time mistreatment status-quo.

What I'm trying to say is, to totally shirk his opinion off aside as all propaganda is ignorant. Because there is some truth behind what he is saying, though it's not like a serbia or darfur type deal, you still can't sit here and close your eyes and say everything is a wonderfull little tea party over there. It's war, both sides are gonna do shit to the other.

Either way, arguing over an online game forum isnt gonna do us any good Use that time to... idk knit or something.

[heroo]

I think both Barotix and cpinney should stop calling everyone a nationalist or ignorant.

But yeah, I guess everything what they say IS right.

[The Mobius]

First American and other soldiers kill civiliand and rape women.I dont even doubt it.Soldiers who came home from Iraq confessed this several times?And second of all you say dictator could gonna nuke at this momment your right but you miss something isnt USA is the first and olny country who nuked on civlians? This proves all thing USA has been killing civilians for years in Iraq maybe in Iran.And if USA against A-Bombs then why Israel,N Korea,England,Russia have it oh sorry becaouse USA cant dare a war against em

im gona take the same road as baro here and just ignore u until u get something worth arguing over, cause all u have is propaganda from w/e country u live in.

I find it funny that you dont even know what country he lives in, and you somehow fathom thinking that he gets his information from propaganda.

I mean voicing your opinion is one thing, I'm all for it; but beating others' opinion down when in reality you have said nothing of substance, or have backed any of your horrible grammar/spelling up with facts is just hilarious to me.

Seems to me you're just riding Baro's intellectual wave

[heroo]

@Barotix: if you think the extremists in Iraq are Iraqi's, then you really are ignorant and stupid. 95% of them come from either Syria or Iran. But nvm, i actaully thought you know alot about this subject.

@Sharp: Unless you have something good to contribute to this discussion, i suggest you fock off and stop trying to act popular wiht your ''Grow up kid''.

And for the ''THEN GTFO'', i really hope you knew that was a joke. Ofcourse I know you guys can't leave Iraq that easily, but I hate how you guys are trying to make it look right. U.S screwed up bad, and no matter that they'll do now, it will never be enough. And in the end you guys will go home, to your nice country, your nice house, your nice car, your nice family, and leave us here to clean up the sh!t you left behind.

We can keep on discussing this for ages, but the result will be same. In the end, Iraq is f*cked. Period.

1]Did I not say "Your country and neighboring countries."?
2]We're not leaving anyone to clean anything up. We messed up and now it's our responsibility to fix it. It's better to man up, admit you're wrong, and then fix your wrongs. That is what we're trying to do. People bitching about it doesn't make it any easier. We acknowledge we screwed up; however, we will fix it. No ifs, ands, or buts.
3]Don't be such a pessimist.

1] We do not have anything to do with our neighboring countries. When Saddam was around they were afraid of us. Now with you guys out there, it's a total anarchy.
2] I am not wrong. It is indeed your responsibility, but will you take it? I guess time wil learn. I truly hope you will.
3]No, not a pessimist, but a realist.

Anyways, we can discuss this for ages, but I guess time will prove one of us wrong, and I hope to God I will be that one.

[Barotix]

@Barotix: if you think the extremists in Iraq are Iraqi's, then you really are ignorant and stupid. 95% of them come from either Syria or Iran. But nvm, i actaully thought you know alot about this subject.

@Sharp: Unless you have something good to contribute to this discussion, i suggest you fock off and stop trying to act popular wiht your ''Grow up kid''.

And for the ''THEN GTFO'', i really hope you knew that was a joke. Ofcourse I know you guys can't leave Iraq that easily, but I hate how you guys are trying to make it look right. U.S screwed up bad, and no matter that they'll do now, it will never be enough. And in the end you guys will go home, to your nice country, your nice house, your nice car, your nice family, and leave us here to clean up the sh!t you left behind.

We can keep on discussing this for ages, but the result will be same. In the end, Iraq is f*cked. Period.

1]Did I not say "Your country and neighboring countries."?
2]We're not leaving anyone to clean anything up. We messed up and now it's our responsibility to fix it. It's better to man up, admit you're wrong, and then fix your wrongs. That is what we're trying to do. People bitching about it doesn't make it any easier. We acknowledge we screwed up; however, we will fix it. No ifs, ands, or buts.
3]Don't be such a pessimist.

1] We do not have anything to do with our neighboring countries. When Saddam was around they were afraid of us. Now with you guys out there, it's a total anarchy.
2] I am not wrong. It is indeed your responsibility, but will you take it? I guess time wil learn. I truly hope you will.
3]No, not a pessimist, but a realist.

Anyways, we can discuss this for ages, but I guess time will prove one of us wrong, and I hope to God I will be that one.

Way to read my post wrong. The first post was in response to where the Extremist come from. The Second response was admitting America screwed up and telling you that America is taking responsibility for their actions by rebuilding the region. Which is more reasonable? Abruptly leaving or stabilizing the area? The last one: You are indeed a pessimist. You keep saying that Iraq is screwed and there's no way to fix it. That is pessimism.

What are you trying to prove? That America farked up? No Shit. For some odd reason I don't think you want to see us fix what we messed up, for some odd reason I think you want to hate America, for some odd reason I think you want to see your country remain farked up. Drop the victim act and realize that America is now trying to remove the insurgents (Iraqi neighbors), Al Qaeda, and protect your people from the harm we have indirectly caused. We have gone down the rabbit hole, and there ain't no turning back now. Actually, tbh; I don't think I referred to you once in my post. It was all about America and their screw-up. We are fixing the problem or at least trying to, you're just to damn stubborn and refuse to acknowledge that. It's like China, playing the damn victim won't make your country any better.

[heroo]

Way to read my post wrong. The first post was in response to where the Extremist come from. The Second response was admitting America screwed up and telling you that America is taking responsibility for their actions by rebuilding the region. Which is more reasonable? Abruptly leaving or stabilizing the area? The last one: You are indeed a pessimist. You keep saying that Iraq is screwed and there's no way to fix it. That is pessimism.

What are you trying to prove? That America farked up? No Shit. For some odd reason I don't think you want to see us fix what we messed up, for some odd reason I think you want to hate America, for some odd reason I think you want to see your country remain farked up. Drop the victim act and realize that America is now trying to remove the insurgents (Iraqi neighbors), Al Qaeda, and protect your people from the harm we have indirectly caused. We have gone down the rabbit hole, and there ain't no turning back now. Actually, tbh; I don't think I referred to you once in my post. It was all about America and their screw-up. We are fixing the problem or at least trying to, you're just to damn stubborn and refuse to acknowledge that. It's like China, playing the damn victim won't make your country any better.

No pessimism, realism. To be honest with you, I don't think America will rebuilt things up, do you know why? Even if they wanted it, they can't. To rebuilt up a country you will need the support of it's people, which you, suprisingly, don't have. So I'll stay with what I've said": you guys will leave eventually, and we'll have to rebuilt most of the things up. And stop making America look like an angel, it's not that they've seen the light right now and they're trying to fix everything they did wrong. They're trying to safe their own asses by trying to leave the country as soon as possbile.

I bet if they could leave right now, they would. But they can't: international politics. And I don't blame them, the soldiers got f*cked also. They were sent to a country with the believe that they were protecting their own, but we all know Bush f*cked everyone. They made YOU believe we had weapons of mass destruction and now the same people are trying to make US believe that they're rebuilding our country? Please....

And no, I don't hate America, because you can't hate a country. You can only hate the actions of a country, which are made by it's adminstration, so I don't hate America, but I hate the Bush-adminstration.

[Barotix]

Way to read my post wrong. The first post was in response to where the Extremist come from. The Second response was admitting America screwed up and telling you that America is taking responsibility for their actions by rebuilding the region. Which is more reasonable? Abruptly leaving or stabilizing the area? The last one: You are indeed a pessimist. You keep saying that Iraq is screwed and there's no way to fix it. That is pessimism.

What are you trying to prove? That America farked up? No Shit. For some odd reason I don't think you want to see us fix what we messed up, for some odd reason I think you want to hate America, for some odd reason I think you want to see your country remain farked up. Drop the victim act and realize that America is now trying to remove the insurgents (Iraqi neighbors), Al Qaeda, and protect your people from the harm we have indirectly caused. We have gone down the rabbit hole, and there ain't no turning back now. Actually, tbh; I don't think I referred to you once in my post. It was all about America and their screw-up. We are fixing the problem or at least trying to, you're just to damn stubborn and refuse to acknowledge that. It's like China, playing the damn victim won't make your country any better.

I bet if they could leave right now, they would. But they can't: international politics. And I don't blame them, the soldiers got f*cked also. They were sent to a country with the believe that they were protecting their own, but we all know Bush f*cked everyone. They made YOU believe we had weapons of mass destruction and now the same people are trying to make US believe that they're rebuilding our country? Please....
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so I don't hate America, but I hate the Bush-adminstration.

The people will be won over in time. Personally I don't want to leave yet and I understand where your hate of the Bush Administration comes from. I didn't believe Iraq had Nukes and I know Bush wasn't trying to fix things in the beginning. When Bush came to Office his plan was to reverse all the decisions of Clinton, control the Middle East with force, and Isolate America from international politics. He followed through for the first 2/3rds of his lead. By now it's to little to late but I like to think every bit of change counts. The Middle East is a troubled area and if America pulls out of Iraq it will be a catastrophe for us and you. We lose credibility, your country falls into a Civil War , and the wrong people get into power. America doesn't want to see that happen and I'm sure you don't want your country in the hands of another dictator, so help us help you. Unless you want another "Africa" on your hands >_>

[heroo]

No I don't want another Africa on my hands.

And I will help if it's in my power.

And I am grateful to all the american soldiers out there doing their job. I understand it's not their fault, they're just doing their duty.

And I hope you will be right about everything.

[Reise]

Eh, Barotix. All the "good" things Bush might've done don't mean shit next to the pile of retarded things he has done. Not to mention his latest **** up with getting his nose in Russia and Georgia's business like he's the one authority on the planet. The whole Administration needs to shut the f*ck up IMO. Let the UN say what it needs to, IF it needs to.

The idiot is acting like we are gonna do something about it if they don't listen to us. Like we need another world war.

[Sharp324]

I believe i am telling the truth.Maybe u are tellin against coz of u werent told realy news by anyone.What you see on US tv are the propoganda if your talking about propoganda.I will always say US has not right to be in Iraq and kill civilians.Iraq was better before USA attaking.USA has tons of A-Bomb but Bush still against em so funny ha

One thing to say to you....just go die...seriously, the world doesnt need you.

[Barotix]

Eh, Barotix. All the "good" things Bush might've done don't mean shit next to the pile of retarded things he has done. Not to mention his latest **** up with getting his nose in Russia and Georgia's business like he's the one authority on the planet. The whole Administration needs to shut the f*ck up IMO. Let the UN say what it needs to, IF it needs to.

The idiot is acting like we are gonna do something about it if they don't listen to us. Like we need another world war.

I already said it's to little to late; kinda redundant, but I do like telling people who hate Bush about the good he has attempted. I don't think it's fair to hate an idiot.

[crazyskwrls]

oi there...

I Africa

[dom]

Eh, Barotix. All the "good" things Bush might've done don't mean shit next to the pile of retarded things he has done. Not to mention his latest **** up with getting his nose in Russia and Georgia's business like he's the one authority on the planet. The whole Administration needs to shut the f*ck up IMO. Let the UN say what it needs to, IF it needs to.

The idiot is acting like we are gonna do something about it if they don't listen to us. Like we need another world war.

Pretty sure NATO and the UN urged the US to say something. The repercussions of the UN or NATO telling Russia to GTFO could lead to war in the long term; it's possible that Russia and its allies would of said "screw the UN and diplomacy, back to the warsaw pact" - or atleast have that reaction.

The US already defied the UN and was one of the few ways of telling Russia to GTFO without making Russia feel like the whole world is conspiring against it.

The US knows it can't afford to go to war with Russia, and Russia knows that. They both also know if a conflict would arise the whole of NATO would be at war with Russia; part of the invasion of Georgia was to make sure Georgia didn't become part of NATO. So, what the US did is basically say "we know what you're doing, we think it's wrong, we don't accept your story about the separatists as a justification for what you have done".

oi there...

I Africa

Me too, none of this complicated war stuff.

[Barotix]

*SNIFF-SNIFF* Is that appeasement I smell?

[cpinney]

First American and other soldiers kill civiliand and rape women.I dont even doubt it.Soldiers who came home from Iraq confessed this several times?And second of all you say dictator could gonna nuke at this momment your right but you miss something isnt USA is the first and olny country who nuked on civlians? This proves all thing USA has been killing civilians for years in Iraq maybe in Iran.And if USA against A-Bombs then why Israel,N Korea,England,Russia have it oh sorry becaouse USA cant dare a war against em

im gona take the same road as baro here and just ignore u until u get something worth arguing over, cause all u have is propaganda from w/e country u live in.

I find it funny that you dont even know what country he lives in, and you somehow fathom thinking that he gets his information from propaganda.

I mean voicing your opinion is one thing, I'm all for it; but beating others' opinion down when in reality you have said nothing of substance, or have backed any of your horrible grammar/spelling up with facts is just hilarious to me.

Seems to me you're just riding Baro's intellectual wave

it doesnt even matter what country he lives in.
and hes not showing it as an opinion hes saying it as fact, like "oh USA is killing civilians and raping women" yeah... thats not an opinion thats trying to state something as fact.

and dont try to be a grammar nazi about this it wont get u anywhere.

[The Mobius]

I find it funny that you dont even know what country he lives in, and you somehow fathom thinking that he gets his information from propaganda.

I mean voicing your opinion is one thing, I'm all for it; but beating others' opinion down when in reality you have said nothing of substance, or have backed any of your horrible grammar/spelling up with facts is just hilarious to me.

Seems to me you're just riding Baro's intellectual wave

it doesnt even matter what country he lives in.
and hes not showing it as an opinion hes saying it as fact, like "oh USA is killing civilians and raping women" yeah... thats not an opinion thats trying to state something as fact.

and dont try to be a grammar nazi about this it wont get u anywhere.

I made one small reference to your grammar and spelling, and lo and behold.. I'm a grammar nazi. Well ain't that something.

Yes, I understand that he is voicing his opinion as well. Like I said I have nothing against that. I'm talking about the fact that you're just backing away and attempting to shoot his argument down pleading his ignorance when in reality you both are on the same level of arguing.

[TOloseGT]

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