Russia vs Georgia?

[Feudal_lord]

i support Russia anyone against USA and West.Why? Coz remember USA attacks everywhere with UK and kill tons of civlians in Iraq or anywhere they have attacked.But it is called they do this for democracy.human right and to protect world from nuclear weapons i mean one of the reason of Iraq war.But when Russia does same Bush says This is not acceptable.But Iraq war was so i say **** off.Yes war is a bad thing WW1,WW2 Vienam etc.But when a western country attacks anywhere people dun say talk and make this righ.USA uses army for the problems.What i am trying to say is this is not fair.And isaw some postes bout American Army.I think USA isnt able to do something against Russia or Iran at this moment.If USA attacks the looser will be USA and i dont believe USA Army can scary Putin and one more thing as everyone knows USA,UK,Israel,Russia ,NOrth Korea all have A-Bombs maybe even H-Bomb whhy Iran cant have it?

[Midori]

First of all, they are criticizing Russia because they are doing this under some very obvious lies, unlike the weapons of mass destruction, which a good deal of people weren't sure about. Second, Russia is known to kill civilians for no reason, and have already done so.


Heres some pictures from Georgia WITH OUT gore. though i have ones with gore if anyone wants them.

Spoiler!

These are Chechens who used to fight against Russia, now they fight for them.

[Jstar1]

iraq never had any WMDs

[Feudal_lord]

Russia kills but USA doesnt?I thnik USA is the dangerous not Russia ?Iraq and nowIran then????????

[Midori]

iraq never had any WMDs

They're Syria, a Syrian general said they moved them. But some people still believed that they where in Iraq.

Russia kills but USA doesnt?I thnik USA is the dangerous not Russia ?Iraq and nowIran then????????

The US don't kill civilians on purpose, most of them are killed by suicide bomber and IEDs. Russia has killed civilians on purpose, look into Chechnya. They've also randomly dropped bombs on towns.

The cases where the US has killed civilians purposely are investigated.

[Feudal_lord]

Man i have to say your wrong coz USA kills people without no reason.In past and now too.Didnt USA bomb Baghdat and other cities in Iraq.Thousands of civliand died in Iraq and this show you know nothing bout what is going doing.They died coz of suiciding

[Jstar1]

Man i have to say your wrong coz USA kills people without no reason.In past and now too.Didnt USA bomb Baghdat and other cities in Iraq.Thousands of civliand died in Iraq and this show you know nothing bout what is going doing.They died coz of suiciding

have you been hiding under a rock all this time? the reason why so many civilians die is because iraqi suicide bombers blow a bomb and kill people

[Feudal_lord]

Well i dont say there arent any suicde bombers but the olny reason of deaths is that

[Jantje]

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/jul20 ... -j18.shtml
No comment.

[cpinney]

read further into the article it says that a convoy was under enemy fire and asked for close air support, which disproves the possibility of intentialy killing civilians.

[Jantje]

read further into the article it says that a convoy was under enemy fire and asked for close air support, which disproves the possibility of intentionally killing civilians.

That isn't an excuse.

[dom]

read further into the article it says that a convoy was under enemy fire and asked for close air support, which disproves the possibility of intentionally killing civilians.

That isn't an excuse.

Maybe not, but I wouldn't blame them anyways. I would blame the womanizing, indoctrinating, abusive, and tyrannical muslim extremists.

[heroo]

read further into the article it says that a convoy was under enemy fire and asked for close air support, which disproves the possibility of intentionally killing civilians.

That isn't an excuse.

Maybe not, but I wouldn't blame them anyways. I would blame the womanizing, indoctrinating, abusive, and tyrannical muslim extremists.

Yup, and because we hate them that much, we should attack, occupy and destroy their country. Civil casualties? Nooo! This is the WAR ON TERROR!

After that, we should leave them with the country we have destroyed. Then we return home and start donating to UniCef and help those poor people. Or wait, we don't need to, we already helped them out!

[Jantje]

read further into the article it says that a convoy was under enemy fire and asked for close air support, which disproves the possibility of intentionally killing civilians.

That isn't an excuse.

Maybe not, but I wouldn't blame them anyways. I would blame the womanizing, indoctrinating, abusive, and tyrannical muslim extremists.

For USA bombing a wedding?

[Reise]

Name one war where the exact same thing hasn't happened.

You act like the US is the only nation to do this.

[dom]

Maybe not, but I wouldn't blame them anyways. I would blame the womanizing, indoctrinating, abusive, and tyrannical muslim extremists.

Yup, and because we hate them that much, we should attack, occupy and destroy their country. Civil casualties? Nooo! This is the WAR ON TERROR!

After that we should leave them with the country we have destroyed. Then we return home and start donating to UniCef and help those poor people. Or wait, we don't need to, we already helped them out!

Or we can be responsible politians, recognize there are regions in the world that need economics and social support, which can be delivered through close work with local authorities and without the need of bloodshed.

But I guess that wouldn't of happened anyways with the taliban in power. The war in Iraq is wrong, the war is Afghanistan is different. It's justified, and even at a great loss, has done some good. But, i'm sure there are some fucktards that say "zomg usa and oilz" when they hear Afghanistan.

[Jantje]

Name one war where the exact same thing hasn't happened.

You act like the US is the only nation to do this.

More like US blaming Russia for doing all kinds of stuff while US does the same.

[heroo]

Or we can be responsible politians, recognize there are regions in the world that need economics and social support, which can be delivered through close work with local authorities and without the need of bloodshed.

That's upper bullsh!t and we both know that.

Politians nowadays don't start wars for peace and for making other people's life better. They start wars for their own benifits. It's clear, after 9/11 America seemed to loose the control they had in the Middle-East. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were a failed shots of the US to try to get that control back.

[Barotix]

Russia kills but USA doesnt?I thnik USA is the dangerous not Russia ?Iraq and nowIran then????????

The bush administration in recent years has made efforts to reverse blunders they have made in the past with actions including: Treaties+Aid with/for N.Korea, Peace Talks with Iran, reversal of aggressive actions in Iraq, Peace Talks between Israel and Palestine (in hopes of creating a Palestinian nation), and finally more than 6 billion in funds towards slowing the progress of AIDs in Africa. What has Russia done?

Heroo, hush.

[Jantje]

Russia kills but USA doesnt?I thnik USA is the dangerous not Russia ?Iraq and nowIran then????????

The bush administration in recent years has made efforts to reverse blunders they have made in the past with actions including: Treaties+Aid with/for N.Korea, Peace Talks with Iran, reversal of aggressive actions in Iraq, Peace Talks between Israel and Palestine (in hopes of creating a Palestinian nation), and finally more than 6 billion in funds towards slowing the progress of AIDs in Africa. What has Russia done?

Heroo, hush.

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15 Apr 2006 ... Russia says it will give the Palestinian Authority urgent aid, in opposition to EU and US policy.

First link on google, im sure there is more.

[Barotix]

Russia kills but USA doesnt?I thnik USA is the dangerous not Russia ?Iraq and nowIran then????????

The bush administration in recent years has made efforts to reverse blunders they have made in the past with actions including: Treaties+Aid with/for N.Korea, Peace Talks with Iran, reversal of aggressive actions in Iraq, Peace Talks between Israel and Palestine (in hopes of creating a Palestinian nation), and finally more than 6 billion in funds towards slowing the progress of AIDs in Africa. What has Russia done?

Heroo, hush.

15 Apr 2006 ... Russia says it will give the Palestinian Authority urgent aid, in opposition to EU and US policy.

First link on google, im sure there is more.

There's a difference between saying and doing.

[Jstar1]

how much goodwill does russia even have? all it does is it tries to maintain its old political sphere of influence on other countries. And what kind of russian aid ever makes the news? what does russia ever do for the world today? at least america tries, even if it makes epic-fail decisions left and right.

[Barotix]

how much goodwill does russia even have? all it does is it tries to maintain its old political sphere of influence on other countries. And what kind of russian aid ever makes the news? what does russia ever do for the world today? at least america tries, even if it makes epic-fail decisions left and right.

Actually the last "Epic-Fail" decision was around 05, then suddenly Bush takes a "Clinton" approach to problems. I like Bush nao.

[dom]

Heroo, hush.

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15 Apr 2006 ... Russia says it will give the Palestinian Authority urgent aid, in opposition to EU and US policy.

First link on google, im sure there is more.

That's like starting a mini-cold war in the region. But even then, Russia says lots of others things too, especially regarding the liberty of its people, and it's democracy.

[Jantje]

There's a difference between saying and doing.

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 RAMALLAH, August 1 (RIA Novosti) - Russia has allocated $10 million for health and education purposes in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, Russia's envoy to the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) said on Friday.

"The distribution of these funds will, naturally, be handled by the Palestinian Finance Ministry, but the aid will go to assist the populations of both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip," Sergei Kozlov said after a meeting with PNA Prime Minister Salaam Fayad in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

The Gaza Strip has been controlled by the radical Islamic group, Hamas, since June 2007.

Russia has also sent humanitarian aid including food and medicines to the Palestinian territories. The aid shipment is currently in the Jordanian capital, Amman, awaiting delivery.

Russia also granted the Palestinian National Authority $10 million in aid for the same purposes in 2006.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20080801/115435472.html

[The Mobius]

I think both Russia and the US are full of crap.

You really don't need to defend a side.

[Jantje]

I think both Russia and the US are full of crap.

You really don't need to defend a side.

True, but most US people can't see that

[Midori]

I think both Russia and the US are full of crap.

You really don't need to defend a side.

True, but most US people can't see that

I don't like you...

[heroo]

Russia kills but USA doesnt?I thnik USA is the dangerous not Russia ?Iraq and nowIran then????????

The bush administration in recent years has made efforts to reverse blunders they have made in the past with actions including: Treaties+Aid with/for N.Korea, Peace Talks with Iran, reversal of aggressive actions in Iraq, Peace Talks between Israel and Palestine (in hopes of creating a Palestinian nation), and finally more than 6 billion in funds towards slowing the progress of AIDs in Africa. What has Russia done?

Heroo, hush.

Wow, all of that? That sure makes up all the crap they've brought to this world.

And btw, I was not defending Russia. I like Russia more then the U.S. The U.S is interfering with people's business they have nothing to do with. They're raping my country in the name of ''War on Terror'', so do you really expect me to change my mind because they donated 6 billion dollars to Africa?

[Barotix]

Russia kills but USA doesnt?I thnik USA is the dangerous not Russia ?Iraq and nowIran then????????

The bush administration in recent years has made efforts to reverse blunders they have made in the past with actions including: Treaties+Aid with/for N.Korea, Peace Talks with Iran, reversal of aggressive actions in Iraq, Peace Talks between Israel and Palestine (in hopes of creating a Palestinian nation), and finally more than 6 billion in funds towards slowing the progress of AIDs in Africa. What has Russia done?

Heroo, hush.

Wow, all of that? That sure makes up all the crap they've brought to this world.

And btw, I was not defending Russia. I like Russia more then the U.S. The U.S is interfering with people's business they have nothing to do with. They're raping my country in the name of ''War on Terror'', so do you really expect me to change my mind because they donated 6 billion dollars to Africa?

They haven't been raping your country for the last 2 years, they've been rebuilding it. They have given up on the idea of imposing a free-market system similar to that of America's and are now giving power back to the people in control of the region. They ousted a dictator, then they started raping your country. The latter was their screw-up, they're now reversing that by building schools and hospitals. Rebuilding the Iraqi military, rebuilding the Iraqi economy (based on it's pre-iraqi freedom system), having talks with sunnis and shittes to weaken the grip of discrimination. The country was a hell-hole before Iraqi Freedom, USA made it worse, and now USA is making it better. The Iraqi people love American soldiers.