rogue warlock lv 90 Q

[Vladan]

So, my brother started making eu char, rogue/warlock, but cuz of his first time making eu char he dont have any idea about warlock skills which should be used in pvp with rogue class.

so ill appreciate opinions of ppl which saw lv 90 rogue/warlock in pvp, and some warlock to advice which skills should me maxed so we can calculate how long to farm

does build sux now at lv 90 and better stick on rogue/cleric or theres still hope about rogue/warlock
Ty.

[.Higinia]

IMO, Rogue is a stealth build.

Come out of stealth and kill.

Not come out of stealth, debuff, debuff, prick.

Stealthed Rogue with DD on can come out and usually 1-2 hit any unsuspecting build.

Hardly any one uses the Stealth pots, so yeah. Just watch out for the pk2 edit guys.

[Ygraine]

Rogue is full str, lock is full int
He wants to start rogue, but end as lock? The only thing you can't change in the game is the distribution of the str/int when you level up
If you want an ultimate build, you have to end up with a full str build or full int build but don't mix. Rogue is difficult bcse they are not accepted in parties, it's long to level up like a chinese blader
If you can't party at all I would suggest a rogue/1h (rogue for normal mobs, switch to 1h for parties and giants) to level up, at full cap level you push up all warrior skills, remove rogue and go as sub cleric/bard/lock like the guild prefers.

Rogue as master is just usefull if you want to go as ultimate thief/trader/hunter. You rule in jobbing but suck in pvp.

[Vladan]

Rogue is full str, lock is full int
He wants to start rogue, but end as lock? The only thing you can't change in the game is the distribution of the str/int when you level up
If you want an ultimate build, you have to end up with a full str build or full int build but don't mix. Rogue is difficult bcse they are not accepted in parties, it's long to level up like a chinese blader
I would suggest a rogue/1h (rogue for normal mobs, switch to 1h for parties and giants) to level up and using rogue if the server isn't without parties, at full cap level up all warrior skills, remove rogue and go cleric/bard/lock.

Rogue as master is just usefull if you want to go as ultimate thief/trader/hunter. You rule in jobbing but suck in pvp.

oh god... one of best pvp builds at cap 8x was warrior/warlock and rogue/warlock so how can u say warlock is int build? i have friend warlock/bard with sun+7 bard, he dont have good enough dps,and at most of time he getting pawned while he trying to curse cuz of low hp.

Warlock/wizard hm? why should u debuff someone which u can 1hit K.O? funny1.Warlock/cleric... it may work but that pvp will be based on debuff,stun,stun,heal,heal,stun = offering - quite boring though.

IMO, Rogue is a stealth build.

Come out of stealth and kill.

Not come out of stealth, debuff, debuff, prick.

Stealthed Rogue with DD on can come out and usually 1-2 hit any unsuspecting build.

Hardly any one uses the Stealth pots, so yeah. Just watch out for the pk2 edit guys.

im talking about pvp, and fair fight. Attack from stealth aka ******* suprise not belongs in there.

in future i would like to get answers from someone which actually understood my Q, and who actually know proper answers - dont get me wrong u2 >.<

[Ygraine]

It's a choice but a good PVP build isn't automatically the best thief nor hunter build. If you wanna the best pvp go warrior/lock.

It's important to know what you want in game, a good pvp, a good hunter, a good thief, a good trader, and choose your best build. But you can't expect to be the best for all. So stick to your choice and then choice the ultimate build. And the warrior/lock can be owned during trading by a good couple of thieves with xbow especially when they have lots of kokoru masks to run away.

[Vladan]

It's a choice but a good PVP build isn't automatically the best thief nor hunter build. If you wanna the best pvp go warrior/lock.

It's important to know what you want in game, a good pvp, a good hunter, a good thief, a good trader, and choose your best build. But you can't expect to be the besforat all. So stick to your choice and then choice the ultimate build. And the warrior/lock can be owned during trading by a good couple of thieves with xbow especially when they have lots of kokoru masks to run away.

pls read thread more carefully,all i asked is" is it rogue/warlock good at lv 90 like it was at cap 80 and which skills should be used from warlock, so ill be able to calculate required sp.
if you have that knowledge i would be pleased if you share it with me. If you dont know,stay at threads for which questions u have proper answers, thx

[Adry^]

this build is still pretty good at 90, though you will proly have to use vigors due to low mp (while cursing your enemy). Other than that, i cant tell you the skills coz i havent tried one myself.

[Kyau]

Vladan If ur brother wants an Rouge ! Tell him to take and Bard subclass !

Kazi mu da uzme barda posto to je najbolja klasa za rouga ! Provereno

[Nitro]

Po meni je taj Rogue Warlock ... previse za PvP ...mislim da ce se razocarati kasnije , i da ce htjeti mjenjati subclass ...
da se mene pita , Clerica bi uzeo... to je sigurno.

A sta se tice skillova , nemogu ti pomoci ... imas gro guidea ... pogledaj malo.

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Ova dva guidea su za lv.80, pa po logici uzimas skillove za lv.90, ali skuzit ces sam... uglavnom, tu ti pisu skillovi za Warlocka.

[Kyau]

Po meni je taj Rogue Warlock ... previse za PvP ...mislim da ce se razocarati kasnije , i da ce htjeti mjenjati subclass ... da se mene pita , Clerica bi uzeo... to je sigurno.

A sta se tice skillova , nemogu ti pomoci ... imas gro guidea ... pogledaj malo.

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Ova dva guidea su za lv.80, Pa po logici uzimas skillove, imas nekih novih za lv.90, ali skuzit ces sam... uglavnom, tu ti pisu skillovi za Warlocka.

Srb : Licno mene je svaki Rouge mora da bude bard ! Umrece on i sa Warlokom i sa Bardom i sa Clerikom ! To nema veze ! Cisto je rouge/bard ima brzinu i Noise ! I ako je legit ima sanse da se uglavi u share pt !

Eng : By me every rouge need to have a bard as subclass ! Rouges dies as Warlock subclass , Bard or Cleric it dosen't matter ! Just say rouge / bard have a speed and noise ! And if he is legit he have a chance to find a share pt !

[Nitro]

Cro: Ah neznam ... po meni vise pase Cleric kao sub ... al da , Bard je za jobbing i PvE vise ... a najvise vremena, makar ja provodim na cape fajtovima ... a tamo dominira sub Cleric...

Ah Vladane, radi sta hoces... meni se ne svida ta idea s Warlockom , rade radi Warriora sa Warlockom ...

Eng: Cant be arsed =X

[magisuns]

WHY NO TRANSLATIONZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CloudStrider]

I suggest --

Raze series, these are your debuffs

Get the stun and group stun, thats about it.

[ahmedsabry]

i giigled at the "warlock is an int" thingy..
u dont get the warlock NUKES.. u get the debuffs and the absolute damage skills !! welcome to euro
the build is DEVASTATING.. i suppose u've seen "phunkism" pvp? absolute ownage.
still, the build is weaker in this cap than it was in the 80 cap unfortunatley.. , and even phunkism the rogue/warlock legend dlvled his build for a warrior/warlock to tank better and still own ppls as*es with 2H.
so i suggest ur brother either goes warrior/warlock (farming both 1H and 2H skills) , or goes warrior/rogue (farming 2H+daggers+Xbow) which proved to be a fantastic build for this cap, and will only get better for future caps

[takolin]

Vampire kiss/touch thing for disease > stun > debuffs > trap > sleep > switch to daggers > DD > some rogue skill.
^Should be the pvp sequence.

[Vladan]

hvala braco na pomoci
kjau kad pogledas sa druge strane.. bard ti daje samo brzinu i to je to, dok sa clericom ili warlockom dobijas dosta buffova,hilova/febufova..

ja pravim za sebe warrior/clerica - taj kao evropljanin full defence, a bratov rogue/warlock ce biti tipa full offense. pa ako nevalja /lock sub promenicu u klerik >.<

everyone sry cuz of our french - we was forced =D

i giigled at the "warlock is an int" thingy..
u dont get the warlock NUKES.. u get the debuffs and the absolute damage skills !! welcome to euro
the build is DEVASTATING.. i suppose u've seen "phunkism" pvp? absolute ownage.
still, the build is weaker in this cap than it was in the 80 cap unfortunatley.. , and even phunkism the rogue/warlock legend dlvled his build for a warrior/warlock to tank better and still own ppls as*es with 2H.
so i suggest ur brother either goes warrior/warlock (farming both 1H and 2H skills) , or goes warrior/rogue (farming 2H+daggers+Xbow) which proved to be a fantastic build for this cap, and will only get better for future caps

ya i saw punkism and there was also 1 guy on my server - night_dreama or smthn like that, funny with that build is enemy cannot even attack u 3times in row if you playin smart u gonna stuh/sleep/ w/e.. him after his 1st/2nd shoot.
but looks like we gonna farm enough for cleric sub also in case he is not happy with /lock :S

[ahmedsabry]

cleric sub takes alot less sp anyway.. no extra farming needed