We are losing.

[Barotix]

The reason Hurricane isn't signed up for fortress is because it's expensive and I have to focus on school. It is not in my power or in the power of Blade union to help defend the fortress, although; it is in our best interest, we The Brethren of the Blade are incapable of holding our own. Our vast army has yet to grown to a splendid number and we don't have the levels (4x+) required to actively participate. We cannot muster enough 40s to wield hammers and we cannot afford entrance into the Fortress. Otherwise, and without these circumstances we (Blade Union) would have been there aiding in the destruction of bot command post, the distraction of bot fortress, and the reinforcement of Fortress defense. Regrettably school is now back in session; I must focus all my resources on my studies. I cannot; not even for a moment, pay mind to things that occur in the world of Silk Road: Venus, it is still my responsibility as a Legit to aid and as such I will do my best to continue crashing what botters find fun in this game, that is; a one way ticket to the top. I have and still am fighting, I do go to ongs, I do check sungs, I do check huns, and I do check the crabs. All of which are major power-level areas. Now on the matter; Fly&Co (sorry to single you out), this thread is not here to argue over who does the bulk of the work. It is here to alert, it is here to guide, it is here to bring together. Don't guilt-trip participants. Those do what they are capable of doing:

For Stronger Unions, that is war.
For Weaker Unions, that is disruption.

I can no longer participate actively but those who can should not quit simply because others have stopped. WE LEAD BY EXAMPLE!

BHA&AVALON: TAKE THE DRAMA OUT OF THIS THREAD. Stop pointing fingers but instead find ways to unify Legits once again. THIS SCHISM WILL BE HEALED. >_> Back to my philosophy of life essay >_>

avalon pays allied guilds to enter fortress war. last guild that we paid for showing up as allied was odyssey. since then not a single guild asked to enter as an ally.

>_> I was never told this

as for the war on bots, we dont give a shit if people dont want to participate. avalon fought alone for half a year before these people came to venus. we can continue fighting along. the only thing we ask for is that people accept our tactics and not do anything counter productive to the war.

I know, I've been on Venus since the first day but I didn't join Avalon until I realized I would have to roll a Euro

what i hate is when people who benefit directly from our efforts go around calling us "mean" and evil and all that bullshit. yeah, our tactics are mean and evil. cry a river, build a bidge, and get over it. its the only way to defeat the bots. not only that, while we are mid war, these same pricks go behind our back and recruit out of our guilds and unions.

>_> Personally, I don't think anyone is against the methods you use against bots. Those are the very methods I'm encouraging.

avalon has given venus almost a full yeah of hard work and effort and in the process created the best server in sro. in return we got backstabbed, bitched at, had our members stolen, and have to put up with more bullshit from legits then all the bots combines. avalon has given the legits on venus hope, freedom, and pride. in return we are treated like criminals.

Bitched at: Yes. Members stolen: No (unless members aren't allowed to think, I remember being allowed to think; you don't let the new-gen think?) Backstabbed: Define.

so fu*k that. im all for this schism and im all for murdering carebear parties. im all for making life miserable for every single legit that has ever looked at me funny in the past year. if i have to keep looking over my shoulder to see which legit is going to backstab avalon next, i might as well make this into a 2 front war and enjoy stomping there face into the ground while im at it.

You know what happens when you decide to fight a two front war while your forces are depleting, right? We're just lucky the botters on Venus are complete twats

Viva La Revolucion!

Viva la Anarchia! /jk

[Fly]

yeah i know what happens when you fight a 2 front war. but avalon would rather go out with a bang then sit there, take insults, and not do anything about it.

[AkillerNXC]

Lets all be hippies; sit around in a circle, get high, tell stories and have peace.

[nightbloom]

<<edited for your happiness>>

[sromeme]

Plan B >> Private server?

[AkillerNXC]

Well personally I'd rather it be just on forums and not ingame at all. Everytime I see bha and avalon guys they're always pretty cool with each other. I do think some of avalon should be a lil' bit less...bah can't think of a word for it, but like, not callin' BHA panzee's basically, lol. Can't everyone just like keep their opinions in their own guild chat, it works wonders. =)

BHA is far from weak. Avalon is far from weak. From an outside view, both sides are doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING. These are probably the two strongest unions out of every server, not just venus. And they argue like they're married. Whats the point? Both have the same goal, to get rid of the bots, it doesn't matter how its done, its the fact that it IS done. Like if you guys weren't in ur respective guilds/unions, you'd realize how silly this fighting thing is. Just settle the differences and be friends again, it makes it alot more enjoyable for all the other legits outside of the two unions. And last I checked both sides wanted to attract new players, and make the game enjoyable for them too.


Less argue-posting and more trading. No fracking jobbing all day long. >_>

[nightbloom]

5 minutes ago a Ninjitstu member, lRashal, level 76, murdered one of my level 6Xs in TheEMPIRE. I came out later and murdered him back. If that is getting along, well.... spank me, cause I guess I dont know how to do it right. lol

[AngloKnight]

If we settle shit down and be friends again, this server could be the best... Why do ppl hate to move here??? it;s bec this server is full of drama, plus all the shit that other legits have been saying about Avalon, since Avalon = Venus to most SRO players... To be honest, both sides, Avalon and BHA have hurt one another... If we continue digging into the past, we'll never progress any shit... I just think we should forget about the past, talk, and settle things down, and move on to a brighter future...

PS: fck, I hate the word future bec of that moron called Future lol..

[non ego man]

...I have encouraged every single member of BHA that has asked to join Avalon or it's guilds to work out their issues with their union and stay in it. I do not get that same consideration in return...

Well, next time Avalon members beg to join Asylum and I tell them to stay where they are, address their complaints with their leaders and try and work things out and talk to me in a week if there's still a problem, I'll screenshot it and send it to you, k?

BHA is still the bogeyman, eh?

Boo!

[nightbloom]

Im not expecting anyone to see it our way. We realized at the beginning of the problem that it wasnt going to happen. Frustration makes me say something about it even when I know it is not only useless but counterproductive.

[Gronic]

5 minutes ago a Ninjitstu member, lRashal, level 76, murdered one of my level 6Xs in TheEMPIRE. I came out later and murdered him back. If that is getting along, well.... spank me, cause I guess I dont know how to do it right. lol

Well is what u get when all u do is bitch and call every1 a noob
including bha members and avalon union members.Every 1 doesnt like
zest including some of his own guild and union members.

[Toasty]

5 minutes ago a Ninjitstu member, lRashal, level 76, murdered one of my level 6Xs in TheEMPIRE. I came out later and murdered him back. If that is getting along, well.... spank me, cause I guess I dont know how to do it right. lol

Haha woot, sorry but thats made my day. He called rash a bot cause he was guildless for a short while, called me an ass yesterday after i joined his party to help out at guards, to soon after leave (when it was 4/8) cause my spot opened up at wings. Yes i did say sorry for leaving.

[WrathShielder]

I stay out of the drama as much as i can but I have been in a couple of guard parties recently, first time with this ZEST character. He gets parties going, he bards great, I have no problems except the constant bashing of every party member and the constant bs coming out of his mouth into chat. I am 4x in rl and have always been laid back so I usually just ignore it, not respond, and keep grinding but that isn't the case for everyone.

I am not surprised he was pk'd. I am just surprised he hasn't been pk'd more. I don't blame you for pking Rash - NB. I would have thought less of you if you just shrugged it off. It is done and water under the bridge as is other legit pk instances. I will keep partying with ZEST and every other legit on Venus without hesitation until something directly causes me to reconsider that....and nothing has me reconsidering yet.

[nightbloom]

@Toasty Then I suggest you take it up with me instead of murdering my members. That just makes me cranky and I really, really like murdering people. ZEST has a mouth on him, to be sure but he is important to me and I might get tired of tracking people down and murdering them, but Ill keep doing it till the message gets through.

@WraithShielder I know ZEST is a dry and demanding person. He defers to me because I am the guild leader but even I cant "control" him. lol Its what I like about him. I guess I am the only person who appreciates who he is and what he does. He probably should tone it down a bit but he can keep a party going. Unlike most of the players I have had lately, he doesnt need anyone to do things for him. He has the huevos to go out there, make the parties, bully people into position and level. No whining about not having a party... EVER. No whining period. A self starter with an inner drive to succeed is a guild member dipped in gold and add in a nice deep sense of loyalty and I am sold 100%. Imagine him at level 90.... *sighs* And he WILL get there.

[PureStr]

He has the huevos to go out there, make the parties, bully people into position and level.

Thats l33t for a guild member, specialy if he drives ppl to get them to do exacly what they`re supposed to do.

[nightbloom]

He has the huevos to go out there, make the parties, bully people into position and level.

Thats l33t for a guild member, specialy if he drives ppl to get them to do exacly what they`re supposed to do.

Yup, you are that same kind of person Pure. ^^

[Toasty]

@Toasty Then I suggest you take it up with me instead of murdering my members. That just makes me cranky and I really, really like murdering people. ZEST has a mouth on him, to be sure but he is important to me and I might get tired of tracking people down and murdering them, but Ill keep doing it till the message gets through.

@WraithShielder I know ZEST is a dry and demanding person. He defers to me because I am the guild leader but even I cant "control" him. lol Its what I like about him. I guess I am the only person who appreciates who he is and what he does. He probably should tone it down a bit but he can keep a party going. Unlike most of the players I have had lately, he doesnt need anyone to do things for him. He has the huevos to go out there, make the parties, bully people into position and level. No whining about not having a party... EVER. No whining period. A self starter with an inner drive to succeed is a guild member dipped in gold and add in a nice deep sense of loyalty and I am sold 100%. Imagine him at level 90.... *sighs* And he WILL get there.

Remember, i wasn't the one who pked him and never knew about it until you posted about it. Still made me laugh though. And anyway, i thought you and Fly thought murdering was just a bit of fun and a way to release a bit of tension / anger.. i wouldnt mind if you murdered someone, i'd probs murder someone back as it would be fun, but meh. Wouldn't of thought of that as the kind of thing you would post about and make a small deal with.

[Ygraine]

It's the player that murders that has probs, he has the red status and has to grind it off. The murdered just ress in town and goes back to his party.

OK sometimes you are over a cap and you do it. If you really want to murder another legit because you are too pissed off try to kill him like you kill a bot.... and it's not difficult if you are in the same party. If his/her GM drops in and kills you, well shrug it off, it's the price of a horse to go back to your party. The guild master has his red status to grind off.

[sromeme]

Well personally I'd rather it be just on forums and not ingame at all. Everytime I see bha and avalon guys they're always pretty cool with each other. I do think some of avalon should be a lil' bit less...bah can't think of a word for it, but like, not callin' BHA panzee's basically, lol. Can't everyone just like keep their opinions in their own guild chat, it works wonders. =)

BHA is far from weak. Avalon is far from weak. From an outside view, both sides are doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING. These are probably the two strongest unions out of every server, not just venus. And they argue like they're married. Whats the point? Both have the same goal, to get rid of the bots, it doesn't matter how its done, its the fact that it IS done. Like if you guys weren't in ur respective guilds/unions, you'd realize how silly this fighting thing is. Just settle the differences and be friends again, it makes it alot more enjoyable for all the other legits outside of the two unions. And last I checked both sides wanted to attract new players, and make the game enjoyable for them too.


Less argue-posting and more trading. No fracking jobbing all day long. >_>

NEVER
pacific FTW ^^
XIAN wassup

euro only good in 8 vs 8
but if euro outnumer they die,
dont question me
kthnxbai~

@ZEST fiasco case, kick him~?
like MagicRik and Kon?

[Ygraine]

Never

PPC are the best, go Athens

[Argonaut]

Never

PPC are the best, go Athens

PPC is a guild.

[Ygraine]

I know ^^ Just go on youtube and put in sro vapore.
He's the guild manager of PurePainCrew on Athens. And the best 1H/warlock in game I guess.

These are probably the two strongest unions out of every server

It's just that there are other legits on other servers. Thx.

[deathtoall]

Dam I dont believe im posting this but here goes.

Ygraine, what Akiller says is fact. Ive seen their strength on Xian and on Venus. Ive been on many different servers, and Hands down, Avalon is #1 and BHA is #2 in all of sro. I detest Avalon, so dont think im saying this because Im some fanboy. But when it comes down to getting shit done, and or winning wars, you wont find another that equals their power or fighting prowess.

Death

[AkillerNXC]

I know ^^ Just go on youtube and put in sro vapore.
He's the guild manager of PurePainCrew on Athens. And the best 1H/warlock in game I guess.

These are probably the two strongest unions out of every server

It's just that there are other legits on other servers. Thx.

PPC doesn't have the numbers to take on avalon or BHA. Remember avalon fights FW with less then 16 people against the rest of the server, they have all the practice they need.

@sromeme, xian's pathetic, gtfo. Sun bots do absolutely shit against euro's.

[comicmonster]

5 minutes ago a Ninjitstu member, lRashal, level 76, murdered one of my level 6Xs in TheEMPIRE. I came out later and murdered him back. If that is getting along, well.... spank me, cause I guess I dont know how to do it right. lol

Im surprised that u ran on to the forum to post this rather than talking to one of us. and the fact that u did not mention that it was ZEST in ur post shows that he had it coming to him. I myself has had no problems with him. he is in fact one of the best wiz/bards that i have partied with outside of my guild.

Rasha played my Avalon rules so ur just going to have to deal with it.

[nightbloom]

I didnt run to the forums, I used it as an example. I dont ever murder anyone legit who hasnt done it to someone I like first, ever. Im not in Avalon, so dont trot that one out.

[Ygraine]

Dam I dont believe im posting this but here goes.

Ygraine, what Akiller says is fact. Ive seen their strength on Xian and on Venus. Ive been on many different servers, and Hands down, Avalon is #1 and BHA is #2 in all of sro. I detest Avalon, so dont think im saying this because Im some fanboy. But when it comes down to getting shit done, and or winning wars, you wont find another that equals their power or fighting prowess.

Death

Dam, I'm on the game myself since very long. I really doubt that they used their actual legits standards on Xian and when they started on Venus. The standards become more and more legit but they weren't on Xian nor at Venus start. Not powerleveling bots, let me lolz, they made gold by levelling turks in taxis. The difference of levels in parties, Asy levelled whole Venus Avalon up.... as far as his char wasn't played 24/7 by more than one player. Bots like psychonaut and others when they started. They were removed, ok, but those bots grinded lots of GP and gold the first week of Venus's start to level up the guild and have the gold for the first FW that they won bcse they were playing on ksro and the fact that turk guilds started hitting the heart before killing the guard towers. The only way to get an account on ksro if you are not korean is by frauding btw, you have to enter a Korean social pass number. There was a certain keygen that allowed to generate a valid Korean social pass number. ^^

[Barotix]

Dam I dont believe im posting this but here goes.

Ygraine, what Akiller says is fact. Ive seen their strength on Xian and on Venus. Ive been on many different servers, and Hands down, Avalon is #1 and BHA is #2 in all of sro. I detest Avalon, so dont think im saying this because Im some fanboy. But when it comes down to getting shit done, and or winning wars, you wont find another that equals their power or fighting prowess.

Death

Dam, I'm on the game myself since very long. I really doubt that they used their actual legits standards on Xian and when they started on Venus.

Whatever Avalon did on Xian should be pardoned as they're legit now.

The standards become more and more legit but they weren't on Xian nor at Venus start. Not powerleveling bots, let me lolz, they made gold by levelling turks in taxis.

correction; They made gold by stealing from turk trades.

The difference of levels in parties, Asy levelled whole Venus Avalon up.... as far as his char wasn't played 24/7 by more than one player.

....I'm starting to think you know shit about venus.

Bots like psychonaut and others when they started. They were removed, ok, but those bots grinded lots of GP and gold the first week of Venus's start to level up the guild and have the gold for the first FW that they won bcse they were playing on ksro and the fact that turk guilds started hitting the heart before killing the guard towers.

No avalon bots on venus. GP gained by grinding. FW gold gained by grinding and jobbing. You're not well informed.

The only way to get an account on ksro if you are not korean is by frauding btw, you have to enter a Korean social pass number. There was a certain keygen that allowed to generate a valid Korean social pass number. ^^

OH NOES!

[Zero_Doom]

Barotix, don't pay any mind to that person. They obviously don't know anything about anything, and probably couldn't tell their ass from their elbow if given the chance. xP

Now, onto something more serious... Asy plvled people?! Why wasn't I informed?! I could be lvl 100 by now!! OMGZ!

[Guardia]

I knew it!!! No wonder I'm 80 in almost 3 month and 90 in almost 2 month. Asy were plvling me all along! OMFG. Why cant i see this??? I must be blind.