Dubai

[Dystopia]

Well maybe hints but no solid proof.

*no 9/11 conspiracy thread pl0x*

[Snoopy]

@ Jstar, you keep referring to 9/11.

There's no evidence that 9/11 was linked to Muslim extremists, your whole argument is based on common stereotypical predictions, there is a possibility that it was, but there's no solid proof so don't get too worked up.

There's no evidence? Once again, you're just saying absolute rubbish! There is proof! Though citizens of America are calling it a conspiracy.

[Barotix]

@ Jstar, you keep referring to 9/11.

There's no evidence that 9/11 was linked to Muslim extremists, your whole argument is based on common stereotypical predictions, there is a possibility that it was, but there's no solid proof so don't get too worked up.

There's no evidence? Once again, you're just saying absolute rubbish! There is proof! Though citizens of America are calling it a conspiracy.

lol, well; If you don't mind having holes in your proof. Read the 9/11 commission report then do cross reference on the people said to have bombed the Towers, and the times everything took place. Don't listen to any videos, just go out and gather your own evidence. In time, what is classified will be declassified.

I'm not Muslim but I do know what bullshit smells like. The proof is questionable.

[dom]

OMFGXMANGAMMARAYBULLSHITISABOUTTORUPTUREANDDROWNTHEFORUMSINSHITAGAINFORTHEMILLIONTHTIME

[Barotix]

OMFG X MAN GAMMA RAY BULLSHIT IS ABOUT TO RUPTURE AND DROWN THE FORUMS IN SHIT AGAIN FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME

O.O, much better. I was all like: , then I was like; , now I'm like;

[The Mobius]

I love how he totallyyyy skipped over my post.

[MrFudge]

9/11 had nothing to do with anyone from middle-eastern decent.
It was a false flag operation carried out by the united states themselves to gain approval for going into the middle east and further implementing their tyrannical order on the world today.

what made me lol was the fact that a handful of the hijackers who are still alive got pissed off when they saw themselves show up on the FBI's most wanted list, and they basically said wtf to the media in their home countries (but of course not here in the US because we wouldn't air that shit)

anyway, i have a feeling that in 50-100 years the truth will come out after everyone who participated is dead, or you'll have one or two people that are still alive to talk to the camera about it on an ABC documentary or some shit like that. But as of right now, you're not allowed to go against the media presented to you in the US cuz 'freedom of speech' only goes so far.

[Reise]

Fudge if you're not being sarcastic, excuse me while I try not to pass out from laughter.

[crazyskwrls]

9/11...

i recently obtained some blue prints for the pentagon that dates from 1996-2001

and on one of the 2001 reports it basically said the pentagon renovation plan's planning stage ended on June 2001

pentagon has not had a major renovation like this one since it was first built in 1941, 9/11

and thats why i think its a major conspiracy...

but it may all be a coinkydink

[TheDarkness]

alright.. I saw the topic name about Dubai, and expected to read some good information on it, but I didnt see much but a bunch of bullshit. Why is everyone getting jealous? Stop hating on Dubai just because for once an ISLAMIC country is becoming rich. DONT even try to start some bullshit saying we have slaves.. bla bla... Look at the motha fucken U.S. This country has had slaves to, and was RACIST against blacks for so long until recently. You forget about your own god dam countries problems and yet you have no problem pointing out another country's problems.


To Jstar1: POST ONE MORE GOD DAM thing against Islam and Muslims and ill shove a cross up your ass since you are to god dam ignorant.

Btw.. thankyou to everyone else pointing out Jstar's dumb ignorance to.

[Reise]

People were hating on Dubai because it was built by an Islamic country? I thought it was just because it looked like a natural disaster waiting to happen.

[Jstar1]

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obviously you and I dont speak the same language. Go look up dogma in a dictionary or look online. You continue to make yourself look like an idiot by using dogma the wrong way.

Just because its a set of rules in a religion doesnt mean that it is "controlling" you nor does it mean that it is "extreme".

And, you say that since islam is a "special case" you can use the word dogma in any way you like. Islam`s original dogma is about peace, respect, moral, etc. However today, political leaders dont follow this dogma and it creates problems.

You still dont understand what dogma is. Every religion has some sort of dogma. Its so ignorant to say that a religion doesnt have a dogma. How is it a religion then, if there isnt a dogma to help you feel or pray better?

Im not continuing this discussion. I feel like an idiot arguing with someone who`s not using the word dogma correctly.

And, its people like you that the middle east isnt improving.

Instead of facing the problem that oil and islam is a 10 feet high hurdle in the way of economic development, you simply make vague accusations about "wars" and blame western powers for all your problems when that isnt so.

Tell me then, how did the west interfere with the middle east? Nobody came to the middle east and dropped a nuke in tehran or baghdad. No one came here and set up puppet governments.

And, tell me what "wars" did the west cause? The western powers doesnt sit there and try to manipulate wars so that arabs can kill each other. Many of the wars in the 20th century had to do with the arab states vs. israel, which, sadly, and like always, was because of no religious tolerance. If your referring to globalization/americanization or the Iraq war, both are recent events, the middle east wasnt prosperous before both.

[The Mobius]

Nobody came to the middle east and dropped a nuke in tehran or baghdad. No one came here and set up puppet governments.

You just lost all credibility right there.

[Barotix]

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obviously you and I dont speak the same language. Go look up dogma in a dictionary or look online. You continue to make yourself look like an idiot by using dogma the wrong way.

Just because its a set of rules in a religion doesnt mean that it is "controlling" you nor does it mean that it is "extreme".

Dogma was added to Islam later.

And, you say that since islam is a "special case" you can use the word dogma in any way you like. Islam`s original dogma is about peace, respect, moral, etc. However today, political leaders dont follow this dogma and it creates problems.

Respect, Morals, and Peace aren't examples of Dogma.

You still dont understand what dogma is. Every religion has some sort of dogma. Its so ignorant to say that a religion doesnt have a dogma. How is it a religion then, if there isnt a dogma to help you feel or pray better?

I LOLED HARD. Ever heard of following a religion without being part of a specific denomination (I.e.) lacking dogmatic rules and believing/worshiping as you feel necessary AKA lacking dogma. We're talking about the same word, you just have less knowledge than me on the subject of religion and history. You can follow a religion without having to be told when to pray, what to pray, where to pray, what to wear, how to interpret a holy book, who is good, who is bad, what to watch, what to eat; etc. The list I described is dogma. Morals, Peace, and Respect can be found in an atheistic culture. You don't need a leader to tell you that.

Im not continuing this discussion. I feel like an idiot arguing with someone who`s not using the word dogma correctly.

You should feel ignorant.

And, its people like you that the middle east isnt improving.

I LOLED. I'm not muslim, I don't live in the ME. I live in the USA. I'm Nigerian.

Instead of facing the problem that oil and islam is a 10 feet high hurdle in the way of economic development, you simply make vague accusations about "wars" and blame western powers for all your problems when that isnt so.

Vague accusations? Learn some history, will ya.

Tell me then, how did the west interfere with the middle east? Nobody came to the middle east and dropped a nuke in tehran or baghdad. No one came here and set up puppet governments.

extra large lulz. This discussion is over. You lack critical information.

And, tell me what "wars" did the west cause? The western powers doesnt sit there and try to manipulate wars so that arabs can kill each other. Many of the wars in the 20th century had to do with the arab states vs. israel, which, sadly, and like always, was because of no religious tolerance. If your referring to globalization/americanization or the Iraq war, both are recent events, the middle east wasnt prosperous before both.

How little you know.

[crazyskwrls]

jstar u make me ashamed of being asian now.....

[dom]

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How little you know.

I lol'd. Baro, note how most people ignore jstar on any discussion. It always comes down to the same thing - it's futile.

[Swindler]

Lawl.. i own this shiet.. Pm me if you want to rent a house somethin'

[Verfo]

9/11 had nothing to do with anyone from middle-eastern decent.
It was a false flag operation carried out by the united states themselves to gain approval for going into the middle east and further implementing their tyrannical order on the world today.

what made me lol was the fact that a handful of the hijackers who are still alive got pissed off when they saw themselves show up on the FBI's most wanted list, and they basically said wtf to the media in their home countries (but of course not here in the US because we wouldn't air that shit)

anyway, i have a feeling that in 50-100 years the truth will come out after everyone who participated is dead, or you'll have one or two people that are still alive to talk to the camera about it on an ABC documentary or some shit like that. But as of right now, you're not allowed to go against the media presented to you in the US cuz 'freedom of speech' only goes so far.

ur not serious right??

i hope your being sarcastic

[Barotix]

9/11 had nothing to do with anyone from middle-eastern decent.
It was a false flag operation carried out by the united states themselves to gain approval for going into the middle east and further implementing their tyrannical order on the world today.

what made me lol was the fact that a handful of the hijackers who are still alive got pissed off when they saw themselves show up on the FBI's most wanted list, and they basically said wtf to the media in their home countries (but of course not here in the US because we wouldn't air that shit)

anyway, i have a feeling that in 50-100 years the truth will come out after everyone who participated is dead, or you'll have one or two people that are still alive to talk to the camera about it on an ABC documentary or some shit like that. But as of right now, you're not allowed to go against the media presented to you in the US cuz 'freedom of speech' only goes so far.

ur not serious right??

i hope your being sarcastic

Oh, he is very serious. One day what is classified will be declassified.

[Verfo]

Why the hell would they bomb their own country and kill their own people?
oil?? they could have made better shit than that, and seriously such thing would probably made by the president and there is no way in hell that he got enough votes from the congress

[crazyskwrls]

i guess no one reads my posts no more

oh well spam spamy spam

[Verfo]

i guess no one reads my posts no more

oh well spam spamy spam

i just read fudge post, found it koko so i posted

[Barotix]

Why the hell would they bomb their own country and kill their own people?
oil?? they could have made better shit than that, and seriously such thing would probably made by the president and there is no way in hell that he got enough votes from the congress

1]Continuing a legacy.
2]You don't need vote from congress to preform clandestine operations.

[Verfo]

i kinda researched on wiki and if the stuff on wiki is true then , but i dont think it is

[Barotix]

i kinda researched on wiki and if the stuff on wiki is true then , but i dont think it is

Screw wiki. Read this book: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/pdf/fullreport.pdf (it's easier to buy it from barnes&nobles or Amazon). Cross Reference names, Google them. Go for a few seconds. Then go . Do some research on Planes, architecture, and chemicals. Then go:

[Reise]

Oh, he is very serious. One day what is classified will be declassified.

Doubt it.

If one believes something like 9/11 was done by its own people you must surely believe this has happened many, many times before. Yet I don't see much in the way of people comparing other "false flag" operations to 9/11, especially such operations not carried out by the US or its allies. Conspiracy theorists always have a similar example though (often another elaborate theory), conveniently fitting into their anti-government banter. At that point there's no use arguing with a conspiracist, since there's always a cover-up somewhere, making everything you say a completely brainwashed fallacy.

Makes you wonder if some believe there seriously is no truth at all in the world.

Watch the documentary Frontline: Bush's War. It was created and funded by the public (PBS), and has all the info you need surrounding the entire administration.

[dom]

Conspiracy theories are like cartoons - they're cool until you grow up. Yet sadly, some just can't let go (anime).

[Barotix]

lol, I do think Fudge is serious. I'll watch the video.

[MrFudge]

learn about 9/11, don't just go by what the fuckin media tells you.
i dont feel like ranting cuz i'd never stop. Both towers were planned to come down though. But for the love of god don't go by what the commission report tells you, that's a load of bs that was construed by people who weren't even under oath, i could've written that out of my ass. Awesome false flag operation though, look where they are now lol.

[Reise]

Frontline isn't the media.

I believe it's very possible the gov twisted the event to make it easier for our entry into Iraq, making it seem like we were facing an imminent threat. That's what governments do. But to go as far to say they planned and carried out the attacks themselves though is just plain retarded.