Mastery Lv?

[firefox6]

max cap will be 150 and the mastery will be 300 p2k only shows 140 that's what is developed so far the cap will hit 150 if the game stays alive.

[alZen]

ok, so 1 weapon and 1 force masteries is gonna be terrible for a chinese build at 140 (or 150), but only when compared to presence of euro and their mastery system. if there was only chinese, every build will have their preferred meat in pvp. so my thoughts ... just a speculation ... jm will keep 300 limit for mastery, but there may be a modified mastery calculation system for chinese, example : 1weapon + 1force + 1 weapon or force maxed to 140 (or 150) but still counted as 280 (or 300).

[Barotix]

You guys are forgetting that Chinese Skills will get better. Much better.

[TOloseGT]

how mr. barotix

[Barotix]

how mr. barotix

It's all about buffs and skills. Joymax has two more moves that start at 20. One for heuksal, one for pacheon. That and buffs increase. Also, Europeans already have a hard time holding their own in 1v1. I think what people dislike are Rogues and Wizards.

[foudre]

[quot="Krushrpants"]

I also don't agree with you barotix. It wouldn't make since to have masterys 140/140 and 10 I think lvl 140 is the highest lvl of items thats why it only shows up to 140 on pk2 and to leave your main mastery or w/e far behind for another one isn't smart.

You could probably pull off: 140 light, 100 Bicheon, 60 ice. If 40% snow shield isn't enough, then I don't know what is.

But you figure - using lv 40 nukes on a level 80 barely does any damage, using lv 100 bicheon skills on a 140 would do next to nothing. If you aren't going to go for the full 140 in bicheon (or whatever tree, for any attack skills other than buffs / passive) might as well not even have it because it will be fairly useless.quote]


You forget that physical damage for pure int does very little damage. I could say without hesitation that around 9x% of a pure ints damage comes from imbue. One could leave their physical attacks behind without breaking a sweat. I noticed MD recommended Bladers as the Best STR PvPer. I believe they anticipated the powerful chains bladers will get, and I do agree with iShadow. Joymax most likely has this game completed but does tweaks from time to time.

also right now at the cap the balance on int for an str is alot lower then it was for a pure str at say 20, now imaginw how low your int balance will be for a lvl 140 str charector, the imbue will do even less for you then they do now, same for a int and physical attacks, the physical side will become almost negligible

[TOloseGT]

It's all about buffs and skills. Joymax has two more moves that start at 20. One for heuksal, one for pacheon. That and buffs increase.

but the same could be said for euro, and wit higher lvls, chinese will have to sacrifice one mastery in order to max another.

[Toshiharu]

You guys are forgetting that Chinese Skills will get better. Much better.

Yes and the current euro skills won't get stronger.. much stronger. I'm sure Joymax would create new skills at 120 or some crazy shit like that.

[Barotix]

You guys are forgetting that Chinese Skills will get better. Much better.

Yes and the current euro skills won't get stronger.. much stronger. I'm sure Joymax would create new skills at 120 or some crazy shit like that.

Euros don't get new attacks. The attacks they have now are as strong as they get. The % won't increase and they won't get any new statuses. As for Chinese, they'll get moves with faster cast, higher %, better effects and statuses.

Have a Warrior/Cleric kill a sun Blader when it can cast, fear, dull, and stun, on top of the usual debuffs. I'll be surprised if a warrior cleric will be able to cast bless spell with 11 arrow KB. Strongbow Crit will do massive damage, If you stun them, they're dead. You can't pot out of that with ~36k hp and a 15 second potion delay with extra large pots. You'll need a cleric, and even with a Cleric you'll still be weak-sauce without your other parts. Europeans won't be pwning in 1v1 anytime soon. I just warrior/cleric as an example because it is said to be the strongest Euro. 100 cap is a year away but the game is already starting to balance out.

[sparta_sword]

You guys are forgetting that Chinese Skills will get better. Much better.

Yes and the current euro skills won't get stronger.. much stronger. I'm sure Joymax would create new skills at 120 or some crazy shit like that.

Euros don't get new attacks. The attacks they have now are as strong as they get. The % won't increase and they won't get any new statuses. As for Chinese, they'll get moves with faster cast, higher %, better effects and statuses.

Have a Warrior/Cleric kill a sun Blader when it can cast, fear, dull, and stun, on top of the usual debuffs. I'll be surprised if a warrior cleric will be able to cast bless spell with 11 arrow KB. Strongbow Crit will do massive damage, If you stun them, they're dead. You can't pot out of that with ~36k hp and a 15 second potion delay with extra large pots. You'll need a cleric, and even with a Cleric you'll still be weak-sauce without your other parts. Europeans won't be pwning in 1v1 anytime soon. I just warrior/cleric as an example because it is said to be the strongest Euro. 100 cap is a year away but the game is already starting to balance out.

Ok I like chinese chars

but is there proof in the pk2 that euro's will not get new skills that is just kind of stupid to say in my opinion cause chinese are slowly getting new skills in updates.

and when you say euro's won't get new skills, honestly when I read that made me think you were saying they won't get any upgrades either, making it sound like euro's will be just support chars at "final" cap. but yeah it's obvious to say they will get upgrades for their skills and what not so nevermind, I just didn't read into your post enough.

I'm addicted to sro, but I hope i quit before it gets to the final cap lol

[NuclearSilo]

dont dream about the perfection in sro lol

[FaintSmile]

Euros don't get new attacks. The attacks they have now are as strong as they get. The % won't increase and they won't get any new statuses. As for Chinese, they'll get moves with faster cast, higher %, better effects and statuses.

Have a Warrior/Cleric kill a sun Blader when it can cast, fear, dull, and stun, on top of the usual debuffs. I'll be surprised if a warrior cleric will be able to cast bless spell with 11 arrow KB. Strongbow Crit will do massive damage, If you stun them, they're dead. You can't pot out of that with ~36k hp and a 15 second potion delay with extra large pots. You'll need a cleric, and even with a Cleric you'll still be weak-sauce without your other parts. Europeans won't be pwning in 1v1 anytime soon. I just warrior/cleric as an example because it is said to be the strongest Euro. 100 cap is a year away but the game is already starting to balance out.

Meh, in the end, it won't matter that much anyways. Euros still level up their skills, so defense buffs, passives [such as the crit increase for 2h], the damage output for DD [since you are using 2h warrior as an example here,] cleric buffs, and bard buffs will still keep everything balanced in the euro's favor. Sure, 5 + 6 arrow knockback is a bitch to deal with, but it's more then manageable. A 2h warrior against an archer will definitely be screwed, but an archer that knows how to play at this cap, can use just the 5 arrow knockback to cancel out DD's to begin with. As for the blader debuffs, yet again meh, holy spell prevents most of it.

As for newer, faster, and more damaging [% wise] skills.
Heuksai: New wolfbite [no status, 3 hits at 106%], new windless [actually less damage then the book before it], a 6-hit chain [worthless in pvp anyways], and a new spear throw which actually looks promising. So all in all, Heuksai is getting nothing cept a spear throw [2 hits 180%, not sure if each],
Bow: Another anti-devil [same % damage, just more crit,] another knockback arrow book [actually looks useful, have seen it in pvp on ksro too; annoying as hell], new berserker arrow [same %, just burn + darkness], and a new strongbow [same %, stun, and 15c increase.]
Blade: new smash book [3 hits, bleed], 6 hit chain [Dull, Fear, Stun]

So, Heuksai barely gains anything, blade gets a fun new chain, and bow gets a 6 arrow knockback book that doesn't share a cooldown with the 5 arrow knockback book.

In comparison:
The warrior's Sprint Assault at 100 has 72% knockback and 33% stun. 2h also have a 10c increase now.
The warlock's reflect is 120%.

And I probably don't need to say this, but euros in parties only get sicker as well. Bard buffs sit at 42% dmg increase for phys and mag, while the absorbs sit at 44%. Stack on top of the warrior's pain quota at 75%, and the fences at 66% and good luck dealing with a euro party.




tl;dr Euros might not get many new skills [rogue does], but their skills still keep on leveling and they'll still keep on kicking ass if played right.

*NOTE* Chinese, unless they cut into another mastery, will have to dump whatever little they had of their fourth. iow; A lot of str users will loose their 20% mana shield.

[robmao14]

i hate farming

[Pham]

You guys are forgetting that Chinese Skills will get better. Much better.

Yes and the current euro skills won't get stronger.. much stronger. I'm sure Joymax would create new skills at 120 or some crazy shit like that.

Euros don't get new attacks. The attacks they have now are as strong as they get. The % won't increase and they won't get any new statuses. As for Chinese, they'll get moves with faster cast, higher %, better effects and statuses.

Have a Warrior/Cleric kill a sun Blader when it can cast, fear, dull, and stun, on top of the usual debuffs. I'll be surprised if a warrior cleric will be able to cast bless spell with 11 arrow KB. Strongbow Crit will do massive damage, If you stun them, they're dead. You can't pot out of that with ~36k hp and a 15 second potion delay with extra large pots. You'll need a cleric, and even with a Cleric you'll still be weak-sauce without your other parts. Europeans won't be pwning in 1v1 anytime soon. I just warrior/cleric as an example because it is said to be the strongest Euro. 100 cap is a year away but the game is already starting to balance out.

omg this sucks, im rogue and il be stuck with 3 skills until the day i quit sro, cuz i only use 3 skills and no new animation or skills for euro

[sirs1ayer]

i think chinese players are going to suck for a while, it'll be hard to adapt to less trees, especially for the nukers. only 2 trees = no bicheon/hueskal or no ice(lolol 1 hit dead)

[quas]

so, nukers will be left with the weakest(cold) nukes...
gr8, str chi chars ftw but ints will suck at the next caps...
which imbue will i use? cold, or low lv fire/light...

omg, this will suck so bad...

[I_R_Powerpuff]

how mr. barotix

It's all about buffs and skills. Joymax has two more moves that start at 20. One for heuksal, one for pacheon. That and buffs increase. Also, Europeans already have a hard time holding their own in 1v1. I think what people dislike are Rogues and Wizards.

What moves?
What do they do?
Describe!

[Derick]

I'd be totally fine with the 300 cap if what they did was give us 2 masteries to choose to complete as well as 2 additional book sets from any of the other masteries that we didn't pick (total of 2 mix and match, not 2 from each other mastery). That way you could get that snowshield you want if you're a nuker, or have the phys. buff from fire if you wanted to be an ice blader etc.

[AznFury]

so, nukers will be left with the weakest(cold) nukes...
gr8, str chi chars ftw but ints will suck at the next caps...
which imbue will i use? cold, or low lv fire/light...

omg, this will suck so bad...

just drop the weapon mastery and add lightning

[quas]

so, nukers will be left with the weakest(cold) nukes...
gr8, str chi chars ftw but ints will suck at the next caps...
which imbue will i use? cold, or low lv fire/light...

omg, this will suck so bad...

just drop the weapon mastery and add lightning

bb pvp?

[AznFury]

so, nukers will be left with the weakest(cold) nukes...
gr8, str chi chars ftw but ints will suck at the next caps...
which imbue will i use? cold, or low lv fire/light...

omg, this will suck so bad...

just drop the weapon mastery and add lightning

bb pvp?

you never know at 140(150?) cap...