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blackfalcon · Post by **blackfalcon** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:08 am

so what codes should i learn before i attempting to learn hacking. so far i know: basic html/css/xhtml and start learning c++. so do u guys have any sugestions on what i should learn?

PuppetOfGaea · Post by **PuppetOfGaea** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:08 am

C, Python, Perl

That's all you need.

mahumps · Post by **mahumps** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:10 am

I'm not sure but when I was studying it before, I started everything from google. Reading some forums. But it didn't end well, I got bored with no proper lessons.

Inuyasha584 · Post by **Inuyasha584** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:12 am

hack the gaia forum

joking

mahumps · Post by **mahumps** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:15 am

Inuyasha584 wrote:hack the gaia forum
joking

lol yah and make SRF #1.

blackfalcon · Post by **blackfalcon** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:18 am

mahumps wrote:I'm not sure but when I was studying it before, I started everything from google. Reading some forums. But it didn't end well, I got bored with no proper lessons.

actually ive never taken a class on anything either, everything i know is self-taight. i dont think ill get bored cuz i like challenges.

PuppetOfGaea wrote:C, Python, Perl

That's all you need.

any good websites/books to learn those from? rite now im looking at stuff from w3schools but its not extremely in-depth about everything

Dystopia · Post by **Dystopia** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:26 am

blackfalcon wrote:
mahumps wrote:I'm not sure but when I was studying it before, I started everything from google. Reading some forums. But it didn't end well, I got bored with no proper lessons.

actually ive never taken a class on anything either, everything i know is self-taight. i dont think ill get bored cuz i like challenges.
PuppetOfGaea wrote:C, Python, Perl

That's all you need.

any good websites/books to learn those from? rite now im looking at stuff from w3schools but its not extremely in-depth about everything

Start by finding a warez/hacking forum. They help, a lot!

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:32 am

i heard this was a good site for hacking stuff

http://packetstormsecurity.org/

Midori · Post by **Midori** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:26 am

Just so you know, it's illegal to hack someones computer.

Dystopia · Post by **Dystopia** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:29 am

X-Lax wrote:Just so you know, it's illegal to hack someones computer.

lul

PuppetOfGaea · Post by **PuppetOfGaea** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:30 am

X-Lax wrote:Just so you know, it's illegal to hack someones computer.

Just so you know, hacking is the most misused term in the business world. Hacking someones computer simply means to write a program for it, which is NOT illegal. There are many types of hacking on the otherhand. Unauthorized hacking (what you're thinking of, illegal). There's White hacking (defensive hacking), Black Hacking (offensive hacking), and Hacking for Sport (Defcon, it's a magical thing).

blackfalcon · Post by **blackfalcon** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:34 am

X-Lax wrote:Just so you know, it's illegal to hack someones computer.

not all hacking is bad. theres more than 1 kind of hacker..

PuppetOfGaea · Post by **PuppetOfGaea** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:35 am

blackfalcon wrote:
X-Lax wrote:Just so you know, it's illegal to hack someones computer.

not all hacking is bad. theres more than 1 kind of hacker..

Way to repeat exactly what I just said lol

Dystopia · Post by **Dystopia** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:36 am

blackfalcon wrote:
X-Lax wrote:Just so you know, it's illegal to hack someones computer.

not all hacking is bad. theres more than 1 kind of hacker..

Not really, unless its your profession.

Loads of companies hire hackers to try to infiltrate their security systems, and enhance it.

I'm pretty sure they get paid big bucks.

GrindingEternaly · Post by **GrindingEternaly** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:32 am

Dystopia wrote:
blackfalcon wrote:
X-Lax wrote:Just so you know, it's illegal to hack someones computer.

not all hacking is bad. theres more than 1 kind of hacker..

Not really, unless its your profession.

Loads of companies hire hackers to try to infiltrate their security systems, and enhance it.

I'm pretty sure they get paid big bucks.

yea thats a white hat hacker( sorry if it hasn't been said before)

friend of mines dad is a white hat hacker and does work for alot of people like banks. makes a shit load of cash.

PuppetOfGaea · Post by **PuppetOfGaea** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:51 am

Apparently no one reads my posts anymore.

Grandpa · Post by **Grandpa** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:45 am

I have "Hacking Exposed", published by Osborn /McGraw-Hill by Stuart McClure & Joel Scambray (InfoWorld) and George Kurtz (Black Hat speaker) on my bookshelf. Very good for fundamental understanding but outdated for practical put-it-to-use for today. My emphasis was network security under Novel and Microsoft Servers back then.

There was a site that I liked, several in fact, but I doubt it's still around. Too much censorship these days. Public safety and all that. Google for "Hacker Training" -- it's been too long for me and nobody's paying me to do it anymore so...

Inuyasha584 · Post by **Inuyasha584** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:27 pm

X-Lax wrote:Just so you know, it's illegal to hack someones computer.

its illegal to shoot mortar type of fireworks but we do it anyway :roll:

(not me i just stick with those those popper things you throw at the ground =) )

boast · Post by **boast** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:38 pm

c programming very hard. easy to make mistakes.

you might want to start with something like python.

and it will be very long before you start dissecting coding (patches) in search of exploits. (you can always just cut through it and become a script kiddie

)

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:52 pm

Do you know who Kevin Mitnick is without goggling his name?

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:54 pm

NVM, I fail. Learn python, no I don't have any sites. I only have html sites.

blackfalcon · Post by **blackfalcon** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:55 pm

Zypher wrote:Do you know who Kevin Mitnick is without goggling his name?

a really good hacker

i googled

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:57 pm

zzzzz that was no fun.

Reise · Post by **Reise** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:08 pm

PuppetOfGaea wrote:Apparently no one reads my posts anymore.

It's because we're tired of listening to the know-it-all.

This IS the internet. There are things like Google and Wikipedia.

fena · Post by **fena** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:10 pm

Reise wrote:
PuppetOfGaea wrote:Apparently no one reads my posts anymore.

It's because we're tired of listening to the know-it-all.

This IS the internet. There are things like Google and Wikipedia.

tbh, Puppet's posts are always something that I take time to read. He has a bunch of great information to share that I didn't know about. Sure, I could go and google it up. But I don't want to read through ten pages of random shit just to get a basic summary.

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:22 pm

http://www.htmlforums.com
^ i just registered there like 2 days ago and i am currently learninh html/css/xhtml
They cove alot of stuff even server sided scripting and all of that. There really good =).

CrimsonNuker · Post by **CrimsonNuker** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:25 pm

The partyvan is watching you.

PuppetOfGaea · Post by **PuppetOfGaea** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:17 pm

Reise wrote:
PuppetOfGaea wrote:Apparently no one reads my posts anymore.

It's because we're tired of listening to the know-it-all.

This IS the internet. There are things like Google and Wikipedia.

Yet you continue to read Granpa's posts, which are 10 times longer, and confuse 90% of the people on this forum. Seriously, I take the time to read EVERYONE'S posts, even the one's a know are just retarded answers that weren't thought out. People ask questions on a forum, or make a response, and you expect me to sit back and say "well, I know the answer, but I'll just sit here and say nothing while they sit there uninformed." NO, BULLSH*T, 100% PURE COLUMBIAN BULLSHIT! I'm so tired of the lazy philosophy of people on this forum. Learn from others.

It may seem that I'm a know it all. I completely understand that sentiment. In fact, I am not a know it all. I am constantly asking questions. I ask at least 200 questions a day in real life. It is these questions I ask that get me the answers that allow me to make these "know-it-all" posts.

I guess it would be prefered that I joined the crowd that just posts fun forum "games" and mindless nonsense. I guess I should just sit back, post in the "1001 Way To Die" and "Post the Job of the Person Above You" threads, and act like I know absolutely nothing. Yes, that is exactly what the internet was designed for anyway right?

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:35 pm

Puppet id ont usually swear but fu*k you mate, You saying my post are stupid just makes you seem retarded. My post where made for fun no so that people could use up all there mental capacities to write a long story that eventually everyone will forget. Sorry if this was harsh but its true

P.S Grandpa's post are one of the only post that i take time to read cause they always have an interesting story to tell.

PuppetOfGaea · Post by **PuppetOfGaea** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:38 pm

Squirt wrote:Puppet id ont usually swear but fu*k you mate, You saying my post are stupid just makes you seem retarded. My post where made for fun no so that people could use up all there mental capacities to write a long story that eventually everyone will forget. Sorry if this was harsh but its true

P.S Grandpa's post are one of the only post that i take time to read cause they always have an interesting story to tell.

That is NOT what I'm saying. I'm saying the threads have no intellectual meaning. If you REALLY think they do, then... how to say this without sounding like an ass... uhhh.... uhhh.... you need to examine the threads closer.

Please read my arguement more carefully, and you'll notice it's not attacking anyone.

Edit: I noticed a statement that could have been an attack, and fixed it.

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