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Uhm, school ended, vacation started, so i have a lot of free time till now. I intend to do 2 projects (about sro) and i need your help. :D

Project #1: Searching for the dmg formula
Continue the research in this thread viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62990&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=help+to+make+formula&start=90
There is only one person knows the exact formula of dmg, but the selfish always keeps the good thing for himself. As im not a person who like to beg, or to be a dog who like to kiss someone ass like a lot of ppl did, i'll try to find it by myself.

So what i need help from u is to take some SS in game. U need to do 3 tests of damage:
1. test on mangyang
2. test on mob same lvl as u, or less 1-2 lvl
3. test on mob 10 lvl higher than u

And for each test, do sub-tests:
a. punch dmg (on mangyang only)
b. normal shot
c. normal shot + weapon skill
d. normal shot + imbue
e. normal shot + weapon skill + imbue
f. repeat from a-e but with buff this time

Conditions and SS needed:
- test with npc gear (no blue) and npc weapon only
- SS of your character screen (press C key)
- SS of your weapon info, as well as buff, imbue, skill info, passive, etc... that play in dmg.


Project #2: Dmg graph
If the project #1 is partially completed, i can make a graph of dmg which takes Str, Int, defense as variable. The goal of this project is to find the maximum dmg output for a hybrid Str, which has tons of HP but deal good dmg (in normal shot only, because there is nothing to discuss about a pure str has the highest crit, and a pure int has the highest dmg non crit).

So what i need is the Str, Int formula (yes, the search function in this forum is horrible). There is a formula that u only need STR and from that u can deduce INT, balances.

Info i need:
- SS of your character screen when ur naked, so i can see the natural dmg and defense of your char.


That's it. It's not much. If u and to reveal smt, u have to take actions. Cooperate with me. But if u want to stay in ignorance forever, be a sitting duck and keep kissing someone's ass until he tell u. 8)
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Spoiler!
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Atomsk wrote:
Spoiler!

:?
If u have nothing to help, dont spam, or else get out of this thread.
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Not that i would b any help... but i could cheer for you~ :D

2 things tho..
1) YIFEI IS HAWTTTTT~~
2) WT.F did she kiss that n00b in da movie for :banghead:
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Taking SS is not thus difficult :(

Yes, she kissed, but that scene is removed from the movie.
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kk heres it, 2nd one comming
Testnr1.JPG
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nr2..the collage
TEST2.JPG
TEST2.JPG (199.65 KiB) Viewed 3091 times


hope this is good.. it was kinda fun making it
the lc on muji.. yes its the actual dmg i hit once after ace was gone and i hit 2.2k and died..

GL
special thanks to _Ace_ <3
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NuclearSilo wrote:Yes, she kissed, but that scene is removed from the movie.


Too late, she's a slut.

Does this mean you are gonna stop stalking D2A? I think he may be disappointed. lol You're his favorite one.
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Atomsk wrote:i cant post a ss... its too big in format

Press print screen key (on your keyboard). SS of sro will be created in \silkroad\screenshots\ folder. In JPG format is not big.

Lazy ass >.>
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I'll help you :wink:
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nightbloom wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Yes, she kissed, but that scene is removed from the movie.


Too late, she's a slut.

Does this mean you are gonna stop stalking D2A? I think he may be disappointed. lol You're his favorite one.

Yeah, stalking is pointless... and it doesnt give me anything in profit...

http://forum.gamevn.com/member.php?u=123700
MagicOne: Birth date 27-10-1985 (2 years older than me 8) )
http://www.hotgame.vn/forum/showthread.php?t=42818
Ok, this guy named mizzlinhie, not only his actual avatar is the same as D2U, but also his old signature. This guy had some kind of personal business so he had to leave the forum for a while, at the same time of D2U too. In may 2008, he returned to the forum. At the same time, the story of "Death2All is back to Greece" began. Since D2U always share his account, so there are more complexity about "who own what". But the least i can say is that they have 80% pt in common, so they must have smt in relation. So i'll take this guy, mizzlinhie, as the reference of D2U.
(and both scared to answer my pm when im asking about the truth, if they weren't the same guy, at least they should answer "i dont know", "u should be mistaken" or smt 8) )
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Lol ^^

uploading results from mangyang test + standard info...
DJ_Ettem - [ExcalibuR * ZoomZoom] ~ Lvl 95 ~ Pure STR Secret-build
FeelThePain - [SquadBlack] ~ Lvl 71 ~ Rogue
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You want highest damage?


Because it will be need to do several hit until you get a representative value. Pure str usually have less variations on their damage, but int and hyb int have lot of variaitons and it will be impossible for you make the correlations. I suggest to use hit or trigger scroll and have someone for ress you when you go to hit a monster 10 level higher than you with NPC gear =P.

I will help you using my stall char that is lvl 20 pure int bow (I dont have gold to buy NPC D9 gear for my main char :roll: ). I will powerlevel her to 24 to use D4 bow.
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Now that I kill them all I can rest in peace ^^

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i can't help as euro ? and the dmg on 10+ mobs higher than me is a no no for me i am wiz i will get 1 hitted dead

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My characters stats (without blues, I took off my garments with blues...) -> Pure Strenght Build!
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My weapon stats (new one bought from NPC):
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Imbue stats:
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Buffs:
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Passive (including my mastery lvl bonus!):
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My heuksal is also lvl 60, so also 60% bonus :wink:

Weaponskill:
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Mangyang Tests:
A. Punch
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B. Normal Hit
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C. Weaponskill
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D. Normal Hit + Imbue
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E. Weaponskill + Imbue
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F. Buff + Punch
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G. Buff + Normal Hit
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H. Buff + Weaponskill
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I. Buff + Normal Hit + Imbue
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J. Buff + Weaponskill + Imbue
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*Damn, I'm sick of this :P Gonna post the other tests later :wink:
DJ_Ettem - [ExcalibuR * ZoomZoom] ~ Lvl 95 ~ Pure STR Secret-build
FeelThePain - [SquadBlack] ~ Lvl 71 ~ Rogue
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I forgot:

also grasswalk lvl 8, but thats not relative... :wink:
I added my fire protection @ buffs to, but it isn't relative too xD
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was my euro thing good? >.<
i made a collage cos its easyer to do..
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klokus wrote:
pics ..........




Your punch unbuffed is higher than your punch buff, thats why I suggest use highest possible damage instead of just first hit. You should try several hits until you get 2 times the highest damage.
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Atomsk wrote:was my euro thing good? >.<
i made a collage cos its easyer to do..

zomfg, not going to do it al again :(

She just needs this to reffer I think, so it doesn't matter much :wink:
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NuclearSilo wrote:
nightbloom wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Yes, she kissed, but that scene is removed from the movie.


Too late, she's a slut.

Does this mean you are gonna stop stalking D2A? I think he may be disappointed. lol You're his favorite one.

Yeah, stalking is pointless... and it doesnt give me anything in profit...

http://forum.gamevn.com/member.php?u=123700
MagicOne: Birth date 27-10-1985 (2 years older than me 8) )
http://www.hotgame.vn/forum/showthread.php?t=42818
Ok, this guy named mizzlinhie, not only his actual avatar is the same as D2U, but also his old signature. This guy had some kind of personal business so he had to leave the forum for a while, at the same time of D2U too. In may 2008, he returned to the forum. At the same time, the story of "Death2All is back to Greece" began. Since D2U always share his account, so there are more complexity about "who own what". But the least i can say is that they have 80% pt in common, so they must have smt in relation. So i'll take this guy, mizzlinhie, as the reference of D2U.
(and both scared to answer my pm when im asking about the truth, if they weren't the same guy, at least they should answer "i dont know", "u should be mistaken" or smt 8) )


Amelie also has the same avatar, i think i spelled her or his name wrong >.<
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CloudThe2H wrote:Amelie also has the same avatar, i think i spelled her or his name wrong >.<

Agreed, but who would make a sig contains "Death2All killed (unique) in (place)" except himself?


Btw, guys, plz let me know also your masteries.
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Mine are posted:
60 heuksal, 60 fire, no other skills used :S

*Edit: 34 lightning & 45 Bow :roll:
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Wiz lv 37.. its on the first screenie
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Hi
I need the file skilldata.txt in media.pk2
U can extract it using pk2 extractor http://rapidshare.com/files/79703126/PK2Tools.zip
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NuclearSilo wrote:Project #1: Searching for the dmg formula
Continue the research in this thread viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62990&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=help+to+make+formula&start=90
There is only one person knows the exact formula of dmg, but the selfish always keeps the good thing for himself. As im not a person who like to beg, or to be a dog who like to kiss someone ass like a lot of ppl did, i'll try to find it by myself.

That's it. It's not much. If u and to reveal smt, u have to take actions. Cooperate with me. But if u want to stay in ignorance forever, be a sitting duck and keep kissing someone's ass until he tell u. 8)



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dont reveal the dmg formula silo, seriously...Everyone gonna have the same build if you do >.>
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Kratos wrote:dont reveal the dmg formula silo, seriously...Everyone gonna have the same build if you do >.>

not everyone is smart enough... :roll:

to put the info in a graphic and calculate the absolute/relative maxima/minima with STR and INT as variables X and Y :wink:
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ne progress?
Level 84 5:3 Lightning S/S Nuker *INACTIVE
Level 42 Full INT Wiz *ACTIVE

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wow this is going to be time consuming, good luck
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goodluck with the project NuclearSilo :D.

and like wat Kratos, dont reveal the dmg formula...
even tho i dont know how it effects a build :P.

i will try to do wat u said after i hit 39 :D
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NuclearSilo wrote:Hi
I need the file skilldata.txt in media.pk2
U can extract it using pk2 extractor http://rapidshare.com/files/79703126/PK2Tools.zip


here is what in the skilldata.txt file:
SkillData_5000.txt
SkillData_10000.txt
SkillData_15000.txt
SkillData_20000.txt
SkillData_25000.txt
SkillData_30000.txt
SkillData_35000.txt


but im sure thats not what u looking for

here a zip of all those skilldata file at http://download.yousendit.com/ED72875E1EC9B95C

let me know if u need more file.

also i thought a dmg graph was already posted by a guy name Pokemon. why not ask him instead of d2a?

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