). We've decided that the main goal of life, apart from reproducing, is world domination. There needs to be one hegemon of Earth to lead. It is a bit far fetched, but if you think about it, you will eventually come across it too. There are a few questions that influenced us in our conclusion:
woutR wrote:Squirt, you're a genius when it comes to raping women.
Squirt wrote:If there is a person that rules earth then whatever race they are ( by skin,religion,language,country)they will think that they are better than everyone else. This would then bring up a Hitler effect which proves your theory of world domination the point of life.
( if i read your topic right that is)
Barotix wrote:Read Bonobo: http://www.bonobo.org/whatisabonobo.html
Summary: Wars will stop if you remove aggressive males from society and have matriarchal rule. This can lead to "world peace". Personally; being an aggressive male, I disagree and believe that as long as people are not equal one rule is impossible. Since true equality is impossible one ruler to rule them all is ruled out.
Watch Enemy at the gate: http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/Movi ... Gates.html
There is a great book on Equality.
Nature = Chaos, Invisible Hand, Competition. Survival of the fittest.
Even if you remove all natural predators you will still have those like you. Ambitious people who want total domination.
Term to remember: Alpha male.
We are primates.
NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:Barotix wrote:Read Bonobo: http://www.bonobo.org/whatisabonobo.html
Summary: Wars will stop if you remove aggressive males from society and have matriarchal rule. This can lead to "world peace". Personally; being an aggressive male, I disagree and believe that as long as people are not equal one rule is impossible. Since true equality is impossible one ruler to rule them all is ruled out.
Watch Enemy at the gate: http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/Movi ... Gates.html
There is a great book on Equality.
Nature = Chaos, Invisible Hand, Competition. Survival of the fittest.
Even if you remove all natural predators you will still have those like you. Ambitious people who want total domination.
Term to remember: Alpha male.
We are primates.
competition is eliminated
we are working to feed and care for everyone
woutR wrote:Squirt, you're a genius when it comes to raping women.
Squirt wrote:Comunnism does not work. it's been tried before and it is clear that it fails. The only real system that will bring world peace is when religion is eliminated. Most wars are fought on religion. If people could just accept the fact hat people belive in different things and stop trying to shove each others religions * cough missionaries cough*down each others throats then the world would be at a state where a muslim can shake a chrstians hand and not be shunned by there people.
( DON'T turn this into a religion discussion its just my thoughts ok?)
Barotix wrote:NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:Barotix wrote:Read Bonobo: http://www.bonobo.org/whatisabonobo.html
Summary: Wars will stop if you remove aggressive males from society and have matriarchal rule. This can lead to "world peace". Personally; being an aggressive male, I disagree and believe that as long as people are not equal one rule is impossible. Since true equality is impossible one ruler to rule them all is ruled out.
Watch Enemy at the gate: http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/Movi ... Gates.html
There is a great book on Equality.
Nature = Chaos, Invisible Hand, Competition. Survival of the fittest.
Even if you remove all natural predators you will still have those like you. Ambitious people who want total domination.
Term to remember: Alpha male.
We are primates.
competition is eliminated
I agree with everything except that. You can never truly eliminate competition. Once you remove competition there is no real drive to do anything.
Term: USSR
Squirt wrote:Comunnism does not work. it's been tried before and it is clear that it fails. The only real system that will bring world peace is when religion is eliminated. Most wars are fought on religion. If people could just accept the fact hat people belive in different things and stop trying to shove each others religions * cough missionaries cough*down each others throats then the world would be at a state where a muslim can shake a chrstians hand and not be shunned by there people.
( DON'T turn this into a religion discussion its just my thoughts ok?)
NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:Barotix wrote:NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:[
competition is eliminated
I agree with everything except that. You can never truly eliminate competition. Once you remove competition there is no real drive to do anything.
Term: USSR
Hmm..that brings us to those sci-fi films. Like when those space aliens invade Earth for no reason, except the sole purpose of domination. I think that's because they've eliminated competition as well, and they're looking for something that is more advanced to compete against. If Earth even reaches a basic stage of one philosopher ruling, then I think we would start trying to conquer other planets in search for a reason to live.
Communism does not work.
woutR wrote:Squirt, you're a genius when it comes to raping women.
Squirt wrote:^ In a world run by money do you think people will even take the time to think about your point?
Barotix wrote:Civil wars happen. They happen because a loyal follower wants power but doesn't receive it. One small dispute could spell disaster for an Empire. Sometimes the next generation isn't fit to rule and that leads to collapse.
Hitler was doing what he thought was best for the German people.
NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:Barotix wrote:Civil wars happen. They happen because a loyal follower wants power but doesn't receive it. One small dispute could spell disaster for an Empire. Sometimes the next generation isn't fit to rule and that leads to collapse.
Hitler was doing what he thought was best for the German people.
Well, I wouldn't call it an Empire exactly. If the views of the Hegemon were incorporated into a learning system, the hegemon could pick out the next ruler. A system of families ruling would obviously lead to collapse, but maybe choosing by worth and values could function.
Hmm, that's something that will probably never be eliminated. Humans want power, but the only way to stop corruption is to be content and realize that it isn't about power, it's about exploration and defining life. Obviously, this won't come in my lifetime, but that doesn't mean it's implausible.
Barotix wrote:NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:Barotix wrote:Civil wars happen. They happen because a loyal follower wants power but doesn't receive it. One small dispute could spell disaster for an Empire. Sometimes the next generation isn't fit to rule and that leads to collapse.
Hitler was doing what he thought was best for the German people.
Well, I wouldn't call it an Empire exactly. If the views of the Hegemon were incorporated into a learning system, the hegemon could pick out the next ruler. A system of families ruling would obviously lead to collapse, but maybe choosing by worth and values could function.
Hmm, that's something that will probably never be eliminated. Humans want power, but the only way to stop corruption is to be content and realize that it isn't about power, it's about exploration and defining life. Obviously, this won't come in my lifetime, but that doesn't mean it's implausible.
A learning system means competition. Say a leader comes down to two choices, two great choices. One choice is an aggresive, the Other is passive but an intellectual. The leader picks the intellectual one. The other choice obviously frustrated will have those who agree with his view rally behind him. Next step will be civil war, others who think like him will do the same. The war will be put down by Imperial troops. This won't look good in the publics' eyes and won't bode well for the Newly appointed philosopher-dictator. They will think, "Oh what a cruel act". Imprisonment isn't an option. When released the aggressive choice will make big movements again, the only option is execution. Now the child of the Executed is angry, hateful. He works hard and eventually becomes a nominee. Once again, they choose the passive intellectual over the Aggressive tactician. The seeds of war are sown in our very own genes. It cannot be overcome, everything must come to an end.
woutR wrote:Squirt, you're a genius when it comes to raping women.
Squirt wrote:^ But if you cant get power the *right* way you do the next best thing, you force your beliefs into everyone around you. this then creates a dictator.
Every race wants power even the wolves. the *wolf leader* commands his tribe and he * fights* for his honor.
its almost as if *domination* was encoded into every biological being during evolution.
NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:
Hmm..well, as the leader, he can't both aggresive and passive. He would obviously choose the one that resembles himself the most, and keep tabs on the other one to prevent a conspiracy. It's true that chaos will intervene eventually, but the ideas won't be lost, even if they were, they will emerge again in time. If we are at a struggle for power, won't it eventually end as well? Or will we always be as primitive and arrogant as our fathers?
Squirt wrote:^ But if you cant get power the *right* way you do the next best thing, you force your beliefs into everyone around you. this then creates a dictator.
Every race wants power even the wolves. the *wolf leader* commands his tribe and he * fights* for his honor.
its almost as if *domination* was incoded into every biological being during evolution.
Barotix wrote:Squirt wrote:^ But if you cant get power the *right* way you do the next best thing, you force your beliefs into everyone around you. this then creates a dictator.
Every race wants power even the wolves. the *wolf leader* commands his tribe and he * fights* for his honor.
its almost as if *domination* was encoded into every biological being during evolution.
Domination. I read competition.NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:
Hmm..well, as the leader, he can't both aggresive and passive. He would obviously choose the one that resembles himself the most, and keep tabs on the other one to prevent a conspiracy. It's true that chaos will intervene eventually, but the ideas won't be lost, even if they were, they will emerge again in time. If we are at a struggle for power, won't it eventually end as well? Or will we always be as primitive and arrogant as our fathers?
A big brother is watching you system? The struggle for power can be paused but it won't truly end.
Leaders typically choose two people who are polar opposites and from those two pick the one most like himself or herself.
Barotix wrote:How long the pause last depends entirely on what the previous Generation leaves the following one.
NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:Squirt wrote:^ But if you cant get power the *right* way you do the next best thing, you force your beliefs into everyone around you. this then creates a dictator.
Every race wants power even the wolves. the *wolf leader* commands his tribe and he * fights* for his honor.
its almost as if *domination* was incoded into every biological being during evolution.
Yes, but so was tolerance. Once you realize the bad sides of yourself, you tend to hide them and lock them away, only exposing the things that you think are beneficial for yourself and the society. Tolerance and self-realization will mold us into a better and more efficient society through each generation.
woutR wrote:Squirt, you're a genius when it comes to raping women.
Squirt wrote:NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:Squirt wrote:^ But if you cant get power the *right* way you do the next best thing, you force your beliefs into everyone around you. this then creates a dictator.
Every race wants power even the wolves. the *wolf leader* commands his tribe and he * fights* for his honor.
its almost as if *domination* was incoded into every biological being during evolution.
Yes, but so was tolerance. Once you realize the bad sides of yourself, you tend to hide them and lock them away, only exposing the things that you think are beneficial for yourself and the society. Tolerance and self-realization will mold us into a better and more efficient society through each generation.
But not everybody is compatible with every else so then after each generation there will be different groups that agree on different ideas and this will create different societies.
And where ever there are different societies there is bound to be dis-agreements don't you think? I understand what you are trying to say but agreeing to what your saying your also going to have to agree that not 100% of the people on earth will agree with this idea.
NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:Squirt wrote:NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:
Yes, but so was tolerance. Once you realize the bad sides of yourself, you tend to hide them and lock them away, only exposing the things that you think are beneficial for yourself and the society. Tolerance and self-realization will mold us into a better and more efficient society through each generation.
But not everybody is compatible with every else so then after each generation there will be different groups that agree on different ideas and this will create different societies.
And where ever there are different societies there is bound to be dis-agreements don't you think? I understand what you are trying to say but agreeing to what your saying your also going to have to agree that not 100% of the people on earth will agree with this idea.
Yes that's true, but I think the ultimate realization will always be world domination. The societies underneath that understanding are either blinded, arrogant, or have not thought it through it. As more or and more people come to realize this ultimate goal, religion and exterior factors such as race will be eliminated. It is a process of thinking and eventually, people will come to the same conclusion. We are all human after all, right?
woutR wrote:Squirt, you're a genius when it comes to raping women.
