A rogue question

[McLovin1t]

In making a rogue (new friend started playing we have 4 guys now) would they be useful in parties if me or 2 other friends aren't on. Like if it is just him will he be able to find a party, or should he just make a new guy?

[PureStr]

no, rogues are absolutely useless in parties.
So either get warrior or bard sub.
Warlocks works fine too but its alot of sp.

[poehalcho]

ehh depends on how you use him. rogues have extremely high power so you should make him an attacker. otherwise take bard or cleric sub.

[PureStr]

ehh depends on how you use him. rogues have extremely high power so you should make him an attacker. otherwise take bard or cleric sub.

prepare to solo to 90 if you do that.

[aazumak]

ehh depends on how you use him. rogues have extremely high power so you should make him an attacker. otherwise take bard or cleric sub.

prepare to solo to 90 if you do that.

alright, 2 things.

A, even as a pure str, you are still very useful as a cleric, there are a few times where you run low on mp, but its usually only for a few seconds, and if that happens, just bring some grains or vigors.


B, even if you solo grind to lvl 90 as a rogue, its not half bad. Now that the caves are pretty much empty, a x-bow rogue can solo clear out a Nachal cave, and actually run out of mobs(in the first nachal room, i doubt anyone around lvl 70 could clear out the far cave by themselves)

Once you leave caves, you still can grind on roc mountain, there are mobs everywhere.

Rogues have great range with the xbow, with the start of 18m, + the passive distance increase, and also the +7m long shot skill series. So even without bard, you really dont have to move that far to be able to hit the next mob, so grinding is quite fast.

I'd definitially make a rogue, its quite fun. And since your pure Str, when you switch to cleric, its very hard for people to kill you, if its 1 v 1, of the same lvl, they probably wont kill you without a few crits in a row.

[PureStr]

A, even as a pure str, you are still very useful as a cleric

Not totaly true because heals are based on mag dmg and mag dmg is based on the quantity on INT you have. So a purestr's heals are really really really nabs.

[Pericles]

Your party still can be good, if the friend which is WARRIOR is with you.
Rogues can tank and nuke, all depends in his skills and his vigors

[PureStr]

no, rogues are useless in parties.
I know im lvl 86 warrior/rogue and i never used rogue in a party.

Rogues can tank and nuke, all depends in his skills and his vigors

Rogues cant tank they got no skills to keep aggro.
Rogues cant nuke they got no AoE skills.

Kthxbai.

[Hennessey]

no, rogues are useless in parties.
I know im lvl 86 warrior/rogue and i never used rogue in a party.

Rogues can tank and nuke, all depends in his skills and his vigors

Rogues cant tank they got no skills to keep aggro.
Rogues cant nuke they got no AoE skills.

Kthxbai.

http://www.youtube.com/v/BUl8QL8U5js&hl=en
^^ tanking is possible

kthxbai.

[Niani]

Rogues cant tank they got no skills to keep aggro.
Rogues cant nuke they got no AoE skills.

Kthxbai.

Rogue's may not be able to KEEP aggro, but they can TAKE/DISTRACT aggro from players, (cleric/wizard) long enough for the warrior to taunt them (when not using DD/CX). This is what Poison Field and Poison Trap are for. Rogue's (smart ones) CAN tank, just not as well as a warrior, and better than a wizard

Rogue's are considered STR nukers, they may not be able to AOE attack effectively, but one of their jobs is crowd control in parties, they have the power to quickly kill lesser mobs and prevent mass chaos.

none DD/CX
Rogue's can
semi-tank
distract mobs from others
lure

DD/CX
Rogue's can
kill quickly
Keep mob numbers under control

Rogue's can be one of the most versatile members of the party, but with the mindset of the current iSRO players, ppl don't see this and is actually a hindrance to the Rogue.

Rogue's may not be able to directly effect the party (giving buffs, worthwhile ones anyway, looking at you Poison Circle >_<), which is all ppl seem to care about, but they effect the party passively (aiding the warrior, keeping a steady stream of mobs coming) the party might not even notice the Rogue if played well

[Mousetrap]

Rogues useless in parties? Don't make me laugh.
My good friend and myself who are both rogue / cleric always get accepted to parties. I don't recall EVER being denied.
If we're the only clerics in the party, we take turns playing cleric.
The other who plays rogue kills mobs with daggers and DD on while massive mob spawns are around, and when mobs are running out we take out an xbow and use rapid shot to lure massive amounts of mobs from everywhere to our party.
BTW, damage from a rogue with DD on is very close to a wizard. Bleed and dull also help the party out extremely.

Don't say a rogue is useless in a share party, because it isn't. Kthxbai!

edit; to the person who said pure str cleric sucks as healing depends on your INT.. wtf, I've never heard that before.
A pure str and pure int with robes and faith maxed should be able to heal the same amount per skill, that's what I'll believe unless you can post some proof that says otherwise!
And.. even if it is true, pure str clerics can keep the parties hp up, as long as they know what they're doing.

[raysisfenix]

no, rogue bad for party.

[Hennessey]

no, rogue bad for party.

elaborate please, or else your opinion is worthless...

[welcomes]

BTW, damage from a rogue with DD on is very close to a wizard. Bleed and dull also help the party out extremely.

rogues with DD easily exceed the damage done by wizards with life turnover comparing on time bases.

And actually in a perfect party, there is no place for rogues as other builds would be more usefull and helpfull for the party overall, but since nothing is perfect, then rogues can be very helpful in parties, specially with good tanking and nuking, rogues can keep constant amount of mobs gather in a certain area by massive luring which would then be one of the fastest ways to gain exp/sp.

[BloodyBlade]

Rogues are very usefull in party's.
With Extreme on, they are like a cheap wizard, though, they dont die in 1-2 hits.

Just be sure you don't use the KD skill, only when you are being attacked.

EDIT:
Above was only for Xbow lol xD
If you have daggers, you surely will be invited to party's, they take champions(even party ones) down pretty fast. ^.^

[painsit]

Ragues are very usefull in parties, can kill and lure very fast. Whatever the party needs.

As you are talking about up to 4 people party, you will need a cleric and\or a warrior in your team.

But, as for perfect party (mentioned before) 0 or 1(max) rague needed. There is a loooong way to that. I even forget the last time I was in a 8\8 europian party....sad...sad...very sad...