Pure STR Glavie or Bow at 90?

dannoob · Post by **dannoob** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:07 pm

just out of curiosity how come noone uses the heuksal chain for pvp? it has relatively high dps compared to the other skills doesnt it?

Azilius · Post by **Azilius** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:22 pm

dannoob wrote:just out of curiosity how come noone uses the heuksal chain for pvp? it has relatively high dps compared to the other skills doesnt it?

A lot less DPS, in one pluto chain I can Soul spear Emp and half windless or full ghost spear, and the other chain is even longer..

dannoob · Post by **dannoob** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:29 am

i see thanks.

Post by **Rainigul** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:10 am

For all those saying to use windless spear... Are you serious? Windless spear is terrible! First hit is strong and good! The second hit is totally shitty though, so it just basicly gives them time to pot.

How it's been in my experiences:

1st hit: 4k
2nd hit: 500

Somewhere near that ratio.

I'm not saying glaives are terrible, but right now they're definately in a deficit.

Also, flying dragon is terrible in pvp, at least now. Bar says it gets good at 100 cap, I'm not sure, I don't know the skill description and I've never seen it used.

Jazba · Post by **Jazba** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:19 am

windless spear = dull status [which btw awesome status]
against generals first hit was 4k n 2nd hit was 2k

THIS IS THE MOST GOOD LOOKING MOVE GLAVIER GOT

RogueKiller · Post by **RogueKiller** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:59 pm

Rainigul wrote:For all those saying to use windless spear... Are you serious? Windless spear is terrible! First hit is strong and good! The second hit is totally shitty though, so it just basicly gives them time to pot.

How it's been in my experiences:

1st hit: 4k
2nd hit: 500

Somewhere near that ratio.

I'm not saying glaives are terrible, but right now they're definately in a deficit.

Also, flying dragon is terrible in pvp, at least now. Bar says it gets good at 100 cap, I'm not sure, I don't know the skill description and I've never seen it used.

The ratio is say 5k for first hit, the 2nd one hits half as hard (2.5k). That in itself is 7.5k dmg which really isn't bad. But how are they in a deficit? They are better than they were 70 cap, even 60 cap. But windless is about the DPS not the dmg output. If you haven't noticed, glaivers with every cap keep getting a higher DPS.

Edit: Oh yeah, with 100 cap you will be able to spam Flying Dragon without a huge pause in between.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:02 pm

Glaivers have become heavy DPSers in recent caps. They wear down your pots, with High DPS moves then kill you with GS after 2 crits and a stun. :banghead:

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