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XemnasXD wrote:
btw, some ppl really do have downs and they can use vista just fine :x


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dom wrote:They said the exact same thing when XP came out. And it is great when it comes to games, seeing that your PC isn't older than the socks you're wearing.


lol Know how long it took me to switch from 98 to XP? Quite a while.

Anyway as long as there isn't something stopping you from just formatting the PC and booting up on a XP install CD you should be fine doing that. In fact if you have a video card that utilizes DX10 I'd try and find a way to have both (like someone said partition and install one on each) so you can use games that take advantage of it.
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XemnasXD wrote:i don't understand the significance of the number change. Its still a much large number than Ghosts' but it just seems kinda of point, like you piggybacked on a post and didn't even add anything....

btw, some ppl really do have downs and they can use vista just fine :x


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it makes sense now
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Lets all praise dom for picking on a person who never installed windows ?

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iGod wrote:Lets all praise dom for picking on a person who never installed windows ?


I bet my 12 year old brother could do it with the help of google.

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If you buy a new laptop 99% of the chances are that you're gonna use Vista. You can install XP, its easy, but you'll have alot of problems with drivers. Most laptop manufacturers dont support XP for their new machines.
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DotCom wrote:If you buy a new laptop 99% of the chances are that you're gonna use Vista. You can install XP, its easy, but you'll have alot of problems with drivers. Most laptop manufacturers dont support XP for their new machines.


also alot of the time they dont bother giving you the drivers n software n whatnot for any of the function buttons on the laptop so once you format the buttons become useless
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DotCom wrote:If you buy a new laptop 99% of the chances are that you're gonna use Vista. You can install XP, its easy, but you'll have alot of problems with drivers. Most laptop manufacturers dont support XP for their new machines.


also alot of the time they dont bother giving you the drivers n software n whatnot for any of the function buttons on the laptop so once you format the buttons become useless


I haven't heard of anyone buying a laptop in the past couple years and getting the disks/drivers. I still have all mine in a box like we used to do. With the two laptops I got, and all the ones my friends have, they all have a seperate partitition with recovery tools.
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i have vista ultimate 64bit and it runs smooth as a virgin.

i dont understand it why people say vista sucks, i have xp on another pc and i dont see a difference. Vista is even more visually appealing.
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cus its not all in the visuals?
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Priam wrote:cus its not all in the visuals?


It's not hard to change the superficial aspects if that's what's keeping people from switching.
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MrFudge wrote:i have vista ultimate 64bit and it runs smooth as a virgin.

i dont understand it why people say vista sucks, i have xp on another pc and i dont see a difference. Vista is even more visually appealing.


Because they/their friends downloaded a pirate copy and installed it on their horrible machine, or they have parents they bought it and installed it on their horrible machine, then they post how it sucks on forums.
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I've seen Vista, and I've heard numerous reports that it doesn't work very nicely with games or other apps in *most* cases. Sure there's those that have no problems, they either have a monster PC or are lucky enough to play/do something Vista hasn't much issues with. Vista itself may run fine, but I think people say it sucks because it simply does when it comes to performance on games in Vista vs. XP.

You only need to look as far as the technical help area of most games' community forums for people talking about issues with Vista.
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dom wrote:
MrFudge wrote:i have vista ultimate 64bit and it runs smooth as a virgin.

i dont understand it why people say vista sucks, i have xp on another pc and i dont see a difference. Vista is even more visually appealing.


Because they/their friends downloaded a pirate copy and installed it on their horrible machine, or they have parents they bought it and installed it on their horrible machine, then they post how it sucks on forums.


I think that's it. My vista is superb. When i go on xp computers i feel like its 2002 all over again or whenever that shit first came out. Honestly, the look, feel, quality, performance,..everything of well built vista computer cannot be surpassed.
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Reise wrote:I've seen Vista, and I've heard numerous reports that it doesn't work very nicely with games or other apps in *most* cases. Sure there's those that have no problems, they either have a monster PC or are lucky enough to play/do something Vista hasn't much issues with. Vista itself may run fine, but I think people say it sucks because it simply does when it comes to performance on games in Vista vs. XP.

You only need to look as far as the technical help area of most games' community forums for people talking about issues with Vista.



I've played all my games on Vista and they run fine with similar performance. I still feel that it's people who have Vista on a computer that can't handle it. eg: trying to run Vista with Aero and CSS on 1gb of ram.
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the requirements for vista are much greater than the requirements for XP. i don't think anyone including most business/schools were ready for the leap and its MS fault for not warning them and releasing it in such a shitty state which did nothing to help the problem. Not to mention hat MS made things even more shitty by not making things compatible and "upgrading" the MS applications like word.

bottom line people thought since they could run XP they could run Vista, they couldn't and MS didn't tell them it just sat back and acted like it was the shit now everyone hates it except for ppl who can use.
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XemnasXD wrote:the requirements for vista are much greater than the requirements for XP. i don't think anyone including most business/schools were ready for the leap and its MS fault for not warning them and releasing it in such a shitty state which did nothing to help the problem. Not to mention hat MS made things even more shitty by not making things compatible and "upgrading" the MS applications like word.

bottom line people thought since they could run XP they could run Vista, they couldn't and MS didn't tell them it just sat back and acted like it was the shit now everyone hates it except for ppl who can use.


Anyone who said "Oh, I can run XP so I can run Vista" is a complete dumbass.

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it will be difficult getting all the drivers if you dont know what you are doing.
thats the reason i still have vista on my laptop

on Vistas defense i haven't really had any problems with it. you just need to know what your doing to make things work and which security settings to have on and off, who should get access to what and all that good stuff.
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All you have to do is down-grade it an re-install windows-xp with umm some sh1t. Ill tell you when i get home.
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Let me begin with: SCREW VISTA! SCREW BILL GAY! (or however his damn name is spelled)

Had my laptop for some 7 months now, and it has been to the tech for 4 times so far, 3 of them blue screens and once for a corrupted hard-drive. As a matter of fact this morning I woke up to find that it didn't shut down properly and had the 2 options: 'Repair Windows bla bla' (When pressed nothing happens) and 'Start windows normally' (When pressed laptop just restarts and comes back to the same screen) I tried Safe mode, memory diagnostics.. nothing. Then I end up downloading a recovery disk file (God knows where I put mine) and doing a simple system restore for an hour and a half.

Problems, problems, problems.. I will give an example with a simple .rar extraction file. I run basic vista home edition.. for any action like pasting or installing something you have to have Administrator rights, and not just be logged in as admin but also to approve the action. So I want to extract a file from a .rar archive to a program folder.. vista asks winrar for administrator rights and winrar just buggs out and returns with an 'Access denied' error and closes the archive. So I would just extract the thing to desktop and copy it manualy from there to my location... I wonder if it was someone else who didn't understand how this works. So bad thought out.

Reinstalling vista on my notebook: SATA Drivers loop... and apparently the usual way I know to bypass those wont work on my bios. So.. the only way for me to get rid of it and install XP on it is to get a USB floppy drive to boot the SATA drivers from.

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LockStar. wrote:Let me begin with: SCREW VISTA! SCREW BILL GAY! (or however his damn name is spelled)

Had my laptop for some 7 months now, and it has been to the tech for 4 times so far, 3 of them blue screens and once for a corrupted hard-drive. As a matter of fact this morning I woke up to find that it didn't shut down properly and had the 2 options: 'Repair Windows bla bla' (When pressed nothing happens) and 'Start windows normally' (When pressed laptop just restarts and comes back to the same screen) I tried Safe mode, memory diagnostics.. nothing. Then I end up downloading a recovery disk file (God knows where I put mine) and doing a simple system restore for an hour and a half.

Problems, problems, problems.. I will give an example with a simple .rar extraction file. I run basic vista home edition.. for any action like pasting or installing something you have to have Administrator rights, and not just be logged in as admin but also to approve the action. So I want to extract a file from a .rar archive to a program folder.. vista asks winrar for administrator rights and winrar just buggs out and returns with an 'Access denied' error and closes the archive. So I would just extract the thing to desktop and copy it manualy from there to my location... I wonder if it was someone else who didn't understand how this works. So bad thought out.

Reinstalling vista on my notebook: SATA Drivers loop... and apparently the usual way I know to bypass those wont work on my bios. So.. the only way for me to get rid of it and install XP on it is to get a USB floppy drive to boot the SATA drivers from.

HOPELESS I TELL YA! :x


wait, you sent your computer away because of a blue screen?... Also, the classic "omg it keeps asking me for admin rights" just turn off UAC!

Anywho, your main problems seem to be hardware. That aint vistas fault.
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LockStar. wrote:Let me begin with: SCREW VISTA! SCREW BILL GAY! (or however his damn name is spelled)

Had my laptop for some 7 months now, and it has been to the tech for 4 times so far, 3 of them blue screens and once for a corrupted hard-drive. As a matter of fact this morning I woke up to find that it didn't shut down properly and had the 2 options: 'Repair Windows bla bla' (When pressed nothing happens) and 'Start windows normally' (When pressed laptop just restarts and comes back to the same screen) I tried Safe mode, memory diagnostics.. nothing. Then I end up downloading a recovery disk file (God knows where I put mine) and doing a simple system restore for an hour and a half.

Problems, problems, problems.. I will give an example with a simple .rar extraction file. I run basic vista home edition.. for any action like pasting or installing something you have to have Administrator rights, and not just be logged in as admin but also to approve the action. So I want to extract a file from a .rar archive to a program folder.. vista asks winrar for administrator rights and winrar just buggs out and returns with an 'Access denied' error and closes the archive. So I would just extract the thing to desktop and copy it manualy from there to my location... I wonder if it was someone else who didn't understand how this works. So bad thought out.

Reinstalling vista on my notebook: SATA Drivers loop... and apparently the usual way I know to bypass those wont work on my bios. So.. the only way for me to get rid of it and install XP on it is to get a USB floppy drive to boot the SATA drivers from.

HOPELESS I TELL YA! :x


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Dell laptops are hella reliable, the only reason it should be serviced that much is because your putting shit on it that shouldnt be there. I LOVE vista i just built a new system and vista is rockin, stick to XP the diff isnt bigg nuff unless you have 4gigs of ram dualcore and DX10 video card(s). Any other laptop is pretty shitty imo. other than alienware (which is also DELL)
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You can't defend Vista when it won't even do well on manufactured PC's that it's installed on and shipped with. Basically at this point the only thing you can say for it is it works great if you have a PC that you built yourself which has great specs and Vista certified parts.
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Reise wrote:You can't defend Vista when it won't even do well on manufactured PC's that it's installed on and shipped with. Basically at this point the only thing you can say for it is it works great if you have a PC that you built yourself which has great specs and Vista certified parts.


Works well on my laptops.
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dom wrote:
Reise wrote:You can't defend Vista when it won't even do well on manufactured PC's that it's installed on and shipped with. Basically at this point the only thing you can say for it is it works great if you have a PC that you built yourself which has great specs and Vista certified parts.


Works well on my laptops.


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dom wrote:
Reise wrote:You can't defend Vista when it won't even do well on manufactured PC's that it's installed on and shipped with. Basically at this point the only thing you can say for it is it works great if you have a PC that you built yourself which has great specs and Vista certified parts.


Works well on my laptops.


lol I'm sure it does, but the point is it obviously causes problems with quite a few people.

Anyway I'm not gonna post again on the Vista argument. If the dude wants to use XP then he has every right to do so, it's his PC.
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Reise wrote:
dom wrote:
Reise wrote:You can't defend Vista when it won't even do well on manufactured PC's that it's installed on and shipped with. Basically at this point the only thing you can say for it is it works great if you have a PC that you built yourself which has great specs and Vista certified parts.


Works well on my laptops.


lol I'm sure it does, but the point is it obviously causes problems with quite a few people.

Anyway I'm not gonna post again on the Vista argument. If the dude wants to use XP then he has every right to do so, it's his PC.


i dont think anyone is trying to stop him from using XP if he wants its just that we dont like people being so ignorant. Their is nothing majorly wrong with vista, sure there are some small bugs but its still pretty new. most of the problems people have though are problems because of the hardware they are using and/or their lack of knowledge.

It COULD work well for alot more people who havnt tried it but they get turned away by all the negative feedback. It may seem like alot of people are having trouble but thats only because people these days dwell on negatives. It works fine for more people than it dosnt but they just take it for granted and dont mention it while the majority people who have problems scream like little kids.
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i dont think anyone is trying to stop him from using XP if he wants its just that we dont like people being so ignorant. Their is nothing majorly wrong with vista, sure there are some small bugs but its still pretty new. most of the problems people have though are problems because of the hardware they are using and/or their lack of knowledge.

It COULD work well for alot more people who havnt tried it but they get turned away by all the negative feedback. It may seem like alot of people are having trouble but thats only because people these days dwell on negatives. It works fine for more people than it dosnt but they just take it for granted and dont mention it while the majority people who have problems scream like little kids.


Thing is that there wouldn't be problems if the majority complaining was running XP on their machines.

The point that vista is a young..it would be a good point. But, its been awhile now hasn't it? Besides, how long will it take them to get this thing as good as XP and save me 2 hours of trying to install a Bluetooth dongle on my laptop when I could almost plug and play it on my XP machine.

Excuse me if Im being incompetent.. but I am talking from the view of a non-based customer who doesn't know that much about how things go.
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