What Joymax is doing is ILLEGAL.

BladeSkillz · Post by **BladeSkillz** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:26 pm

In the United States there is a law that prohibits companies from using a Bait and Switch tactic to hook in customers, providing them with the false idea that they will get a good deal on an item that is no longer in stock.

An example is say a 52'' plasma screen TV on sale 75% off but there are only 2 in stock and get sold immediately. People come in the rest of the day ready to purchase the TV but since there are no more they end up buying something else since they feel they came for nothing. The store owner intentionally only has 2 in stock so that he doesn't lose money and at the same time makes profit off of the people that came in wanting the TV but decided not to leave empty handed. THIS IS ILLEGAL!

This example can be applied to what Joymax is doing. They offer a "free" game to attract people but offer very limited slots on their servers so that you are forced to pay money to log in. It's a Bait and Switch tactic used to lure customers in and end up paying for what should have been free. It's very similar to false advertising.

Kargel · Post by **Kargel** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:30 pm

BladeSkillz wrote:In the United States there is a law that prohibits companies from using a Bait and Switch tactic to hook in customers, providing them with the false idea that they will get a good deal on an item that is no longer in stock.

An example is say a 52'' plasma screen TV on sale 75% off but there are only 2 in stock and get sold immediately. People come in the rest of the day ready to purchase the TV but since there are no more they end up buying something else since they feel they came for nothing. The store owner intentionally only has 2 in stock so that he doesn't lose money and at the same time makes profit off of the people that came in wanting the TV but decided not to leave empty handed. THIS IS ILLEGAL!

This example can be applied to what Joymax is doing. They offer a "free" game to attract people but offer very limited slots on their servers so that you are forced to pay money to log in. It's a Bait and Switch tactic used to lure customers in and end up paying for what should have been free. It's very similar to false advertising.

crazyskwrls · Post by **crazyskwrls** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:33 pm

^ wa?
go head and sue i doubt u'll win, besides what u described is kinda different from what jm is doing

besides its the bots that are crowding the servers

ctd4me · Post by **ctd4me** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:34 pm

anyone else find a trojan virus in your SRO client??

crazyskwrls · Post by **crazyskwrls** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:36 pm

ur virus scanner is overly sensitive, besides do u really believe jm but a trojan in there?

ctd4me · Post by **ctd4me** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:37 pm

i have found it on my pc and my wife and daughters as well as some other friends

Chess · Post by **Chess** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:45 pm

um it's first not illegal second their are plenty of slots. If you've noticed when no bots are on thier is plenty of room. Some people here are even wanting to run more than 1 client doesn't that imply thier is plenty of room if they think they can get 2 on?

JustaDude · Post by **JustaDude** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:48 pm

BladeSkillz wrote:In the United States there is a law that prohibits companies from using a Bait and Switch tactic to hook in customers, providing them with the false idea that they will get a good deal on an item that is no longer in stock.

An example is say a 52'' plasma screen TV on sale 75% off but there are only 2 in stock and get sold immediately. People come in the rest of the day ready to purchase the TV but since there are no more they end up buying something else since they feel they came for nothing. The store owner intentionally only has 2 in stock so that he doesn't lose money and at the same time makes profit off of the people that came in wanting the TV but decided not to leave empty handed. THIS IS ILLEGAL!

This example can be applied to what Joymax is doing. They offer a "free" game to attract people but offer very limited slots on their servers so that you are forced to pay money to log in. It's a Bait and Switch tactic used to lure customers in and end up paying for what should have been free. It's very similar to false advertising.

Do they care? they're in Korea.. they dont give a F*** about US laws.

The only fools here are us, who keeps buying their premiums and all item mall crap, anyways it doesnt hurt me that much since i can afford it no problem, but still doesnt takes the fool off us lol.

_Xelo_ · Post by **_Xelo_** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:52 pm

BANN ME NOW FROM THE FORUM PLEASE: IM USING A NO DC CLIENT AND IM ALWAYS KNOWN AS A BOTTER !- TRUELY
FOR THE POOR REST OF THE GAME, I WILL CHOOSE MY SPECIALY OWN KIND TO QUIT WITH SHITROAD OFFLINE AKA SILKROTTEN ONLINE

PB_and_J · Post by **PB_and_J** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:52 pm

It is a free game.

Do you have to pay to play? No.
Will the game be better if you do? Yes

mmhm3 · Post by **mmhm3** » Sun May 25, 2008 7:56 pm

what

@ you know what they will do then if word gets out? they will ban silkroad in the USA! like they banned youtube from turkey!

Binning · Post by **Binning** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:04 pm

I've always wanted to make one of those ^_^

Anyway, you're a moron if you think you can sue Joymax for that. It's free to play, not free to log on first time. You can play for free if you're willing to sit there for ages and try to log on, nowhere on any of their advertisements or ToS does it say you will get on first time. They simply offer their clients PREFERRED game access which allows them to get on first time + more bonuses.

Besides, Joymax isn't in the United States....

nicolasvc2 · Post by **nicolasvc2** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:10 pm

mmhm3 wrote:what @ you know what they will do then if word gets out? they will ban silkroad in the USA! like they banned youtube from turkey!

did the realy banned youtube from turkey?

Grimm-.- · Post by **Grimm-.-** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:13 pm

Makes sense but they are not in the U.S

Binning · Post by **Binning** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:13 pm

nicolasvc2 wrote:
mmhm3 wrote:what @ you know what they will do then if word gets out? they will ban silkroad in the USA! like they banned youtube from turkey!

did the realy banned youtube from turkey?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/07/news/turkey.php

JustaDude · Post by **JustaDude** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:13 pm

nicolasvc2 wrote:
mmhm3 wrote:what @ you know what they will do then if word gets out? they will ban silkroad in the USA! like they banned youtube from turkey!

did the realy banned youtube from turkey?

I thought it was just for a day or 2. not permanent

Vandango · Post by **Vandango** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:14 pm

Wheres a Facepalm Picture when you want one.

1. It is a free to play game. GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
2. U.S Laws do Not apply To Korea
3. WE ARE NOT JOYMAX NOR ARE WE RELATED TO THEM

2806 · Post by **2806** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:15 pm

You'd better get a lawyer pronto then before anyone steals this wonderful idea!

Also, like JustaDude said you might want to stop researching US law since it doesn't apply to countries outside of the US.

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:21 pm

They say they don't allow bots, and they actually do ban some now and then, so they aren't really saying something then not doing it -.-.

Even if it is total BS and its painfully obvious they don't try to really ban bots.

Technicality ftl.

Quetzalcoatl · Post by **Quetzalcoatl** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:22 pm

Well, it is sorta true in false advertisement....except you forgot to read the fine print were it explains that only 2 are available or in Silkroad Online(TOS)

Post by **LillDev!l** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:24 pm

it aint really illegal ... they offer a free game, and free slots in every server, they are used and you can see it, dont log on if its crowded... they aint giving any false info or so...
the thing idd say closest to illegal = the fake gameguard stuff -_-'

uBeR · Post by **uBeR** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:30 pm

First of all, Joymax isn't located int he U.S. Second, there is no bait and switch going on. Fail.

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:42 pm

LillDev!l wrote:it aint really illegal ... they offer a free game, and free slots in every server, they are used and you can see it, dont log on if its crowded... they aint giving any false info or so...
the thing idd say closest to illegal = the fake gameguard stuff -_-'

I'd say "we are doing our best to assure pleasant gaming" or w/e is pretty false, mainly about how they say they don't want bots but let them stay, and how theres no customer service.

Free or not means shit, they certainly make plenty of money from this free game.

Post by **dom** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:55 pm

Vandango wrote:WE ARE NOT JOYMAX NOR ARE WE RELATED TO THEM

I don't know, i'm really lazy. But I guess that could be just a coincidence.

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:01 pm

lol
USA doesnt own the entire planet :roll:

OnlyMe · Post by **OnlyMe** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:05 pm

Too bad these JM basterds are Koreans -.-'

alcoholic · Post by **alcoholic** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:13 pm

PB_and_J wrote:It is a free game.

Do you have to pay to play? No.
Will the game be better if you do? Yes

+1 i 100% agree.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · Post by **Pan_Raider(`_´)** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:16 pm

ctd4me wrote:anyone else find a trojan virus in your SRO client??

the code resembles one, so some like kaspersky will give you no chance but delete it :banghead:

On topic:

BladeSkillz wrote:In the United States there is a law that prohibits companies from using a Bait and Switch tactic to hook in customers, providing them with the false idea that they will get a good deal on an item that is no longer in stock.

An example is say a 52'' plasma screen TV on sale 75% off but there are only 2 in stock and get sold immediately. People come in the rest of the day ready to purchase the TV but since there are no more they end up buying something else since they feel they came for nothing. The store owner intentionally only has 2 in stock so that he doesn't lose money and at the same time makes profit off of the people that came in wanting the TV but decided not to leave empty handed. THIS IS ILLEGAL!

This example can be applied to what Joymax is doing. They offer a "free" game to attract people but offer very limited slots on their servers so that you are forced to pay money to log in. It's a Bait and Switch tactic used to lure customers in and end up paying for what should have been free. It's very similar to false advertising.

the only thing that aint free is the silk and the items you buy just to have an advantage in the game.
and where don't you get some kind of advertisment trick from a company.

Nitro · Post by **Nitro** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:17 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:lol
USA doesnt own the entire planet

Hahaha ... +1

Grimm-.- · Post by **Grimm-.-** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:20 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:lol
USA doesnt own the entire planet

Its only a matter of time...

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