That whole theory that Joymax is beind the bots

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat May 24, 2008 12:16 am

Kiddeh wrote:question? why ksro, csro and jsro so clean in comparison to isro? i mean if they can stop em there why not here to? makes no sense....

KSRO: run by Yahoo Korea in partnership with Joymax
CSRO: run by Cimo?
Jsro: run by??? (not joymax)
Vsro: run by??? (not joymax)
Tsro: run by??? (not joymax)
Isro: run by Joymax

@simp, the only thing that can tear me away from away from sro is DDO. I just need a better computer, need to get straight perfect scores on my next report card to score that alienware.

Simplifique · Post by **Simplifique** » Sat May 24, 2008 12:25 am

Barotix wrote:@simp, the only thing that can tear me away from away from sro is DDO. I just need a better computer, need to get straight perfect scores on my next report card to score that alienware.

I might just go and play that xD. Good luck, perfect scores you'll get it for sure mate.

Grimm-.- · Post by **Grimm-.-** » Sat May 24, 2008 12:57 am

Blurred wrote:Shut the ƒuck up please.

What is wrong with you people.

Why must there be so many people who insist to flame for no reason.
You are the people who give forums bad names.

Please, I beg you- STOP being such arrogant jerks and if you dont like a thread.
DONT post in it.

Just Leave.

I would wright more of how you are a complete jerk who should just be banned because you arent making these forums a fun place to be.
But. It is not worth the thinking.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Sat May 24, 2008 12:58 am

UnbeatableDevil wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:Pointless thread, so here a pointless comment from myself,

"I just farted"

u are so pointless -.-

Why thank you, I try

WinterSkye · Post by **WinterSkye** » Sat May 24, 2008 1:30 am

And again people dont seem to realize, that joymax is not the only gaming company with bot issues, gold ceo website has about 20 games on there, they are not all joymax games, 2moons, shaiya which is new and lots of other games are being cluttered by these gold farming pain in the rears.

Its not just joymax :banghead:

Grimjaw · Post by **Grimjaw** » Sat May 24, 2008 1:46 am

Just felt the urge to point something out.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Sat May 24, 2008 1:56 am

Grimjaw wrote:*pic*

Just felt the urge to point something out.

off-topic: Should change your av and sig, cause he doesn't have the cursed seal anymore

http://manga.bleachexile.com/naruto-chapter-401.html

HawaiianMix · Post by **HawaiianMix** » Sat May 24, 2008 1:57 am

Barotix wrote:
Kiddeh wrote:question? why ksro, csro and jsro so clean in comparison to isro? i mean if they can stop em there why not here to? makes no sense....

KSRO: run by Yahoo Korea in partnership with Joymax
CSRO: run by Cimo?
Jsro: run GameOn
Vsro: run VDC
Tsro: run UNALIS
Isro: run by Joymax

All they need to do is turn on GameGaurd, limit number of registrations per day, have active GMs, and lower server capacity.

Anyone saying they do it for premium have never been in another other version of sro. I don't know too many people WHO DO NOT have premium in the other versions I played in.

And also, premium came out in other versions BEFORE isro got it.

Pesonally, Joymax needs to jump up the development for Isro instead of pushing it aside for the other 5 versions.

And I know many people who would spend more silk if there were no problems.

Grimjaw · Post by **Grimjaw** » Sat May 24, 2008 2:27 am

Blackdragon6 wrote:
Grimjaw wrote:*pic*

Just felt the urge to point something out.

off-topic: Should change your av and sig, cause he doesn't have the cursed seal anymore http://manga.bleachexile.com/naruto-chapter-401.html

Off-topic: Didn't know about that,neither did i know that Itachi got killed. 0-0

Bleach Manga and Anime had me occupied to the fullest extent.

But i think i won't change my Avatar and signature.

But thanks all the same. :wink:

Belgarath · Post by **Belgarath** » Sat May 24, 2008 3:56 am

Who let the retards out of their cage? They should know better than to let them post.

jabbers · Post by **jabbers** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:03 am

I don't think it is joymax itself, but think there is definitely an insider at work for the gold company. probably JM have a few bad apples working for them ~_^

joester9 · Post by **joester9** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:24 am

heroo wrote:
Blurred wrote:Shut the ƒuck up please.

/fail

don't act intelligent.

+2

emperor3000 · Post by **emperor3000** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:32 am

hmm...

As said in the top, they may or may not be the fault here.

Since if your banned from iSRO, you can just create another account to make it bot status.

In lets say cSRO, if your banned, you can't create another account.

Since you need to input your OWN personal id, which is given at birth or your number in the country or something.

So, if your banned, you cannot create another account, since your lil id has been banned on another account, therefore it's invalid.

Oh and there may be the reason that there is INACTIVE GMs on iSRO, and vise versa of cSRO

HawaiianMix · Post by **HawaiianMix** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:42 am

emperor3000 wrote:hmm...

As said in the top, they may or may not be the fault here.

Since if your banned from iSRO, you can just create another account to make it bot status.

In lets say cSRO, if your banned, you can't create another account.

Since you need to input your OWN personal id, which is given at birth or your number in the country or something.

So, if your banned, you cannot create another account, since your lil id has been banned on another account, therefore it's invalid.

Oh and there may be the reason that there is INACTIVE GMs on iSRO, and vise versa of cSRO

for 1 .... i think they are understaffed

2 ..... i think that the only GM's that are active are the main designers/ coders rather than the GM's that help maintain order within the game

3 .....we can assume that the isro main office has failed to become organized

4..... joymax head office is most likely more concerned about suppling updates and so forth for their partners rather than themselves since THEY pay joymax for developing updates and so forth....

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:11 am

deep.in wrote:No, JM just used a good moment to make some money. SOMEONE (not JM) filled the game with bots, servers became crowded...bah, idea, Premium Ticket. Gold selling? Without gold buyers there will be no gold sellers, Without gold sellers there will be no bots, no bots(gold bots filling most of the server,not player bots), no traffic, no traffic, no premiums, no premiums, less money.

Just had to add something. ^^

Osman · Post by **Osman** » Sat May 24, 2008 9:08 am

MrTwilliger wrote:Think of it this way

If joymax did make the goldbots and sell gold, why do they need bots to farm it. Why not just get rid of all gold bots, limit the server cap at 1000 and just sell gold directly? Its their game, they have the ability to dupe trillions of gold in a second. To have gold bots do it for them, which give the game a terrible reputation and make people quit the game, its defines all sort of logic.

Nope. They couldn't do that, because the game wouldn't last in the MMORPG market if they do so. Remember that this would cause a wave of critic. This is just one of many MMO's out there and they have to keep up the MMORPG standard. Supporting gold buying and botting is definitely not the standard. So yes, this is their game, but they cannot do whatever they want. Plus the thing that is tempting the users to bot and buy gold is that it is against the ToS. Each of them thinks he has an advantage over those legit players(even tho he knows consciously that everybody else bots, subconsciously he thinks he is one of the few, thus have an advantage). So if botting is pointless, playing the game is pointless as well, because seriously, who's really gonna play by hand till lvl 90? I can already see all those people claiming they are legit reaching lvl 90 in like 2-3 weeks. :wink:

CloudFromPersia · Post by **CloudFromPersia** » Sat May 24, 2008 3:49 pm

maybe the gold bot companies pay joymax to allow them to sell gold, just a theory

xJ3nnYx · Post by **xJ3nnYx** » Sat May 24, 2008 3:57 pm

Well i got tired of reading everyone's comment so i a just read few sorry if this a repeat..

i was buying gold form one of the goldbots in pluto.. as you know you have to talk to them on MSN, since i am regular customer i ask this chinese guy how come they havent been ban? he said JM allowes them to sell gold and have gold bot.. but they have to pay part of their profit to JM every month. the gold bot are different company .. that is why some gold services only have limited stock...because JM is not the actual gold bot company Jm makes alot of money from preminums because the bots full about half in every server O.o. it makes sense why they dont have codes..to make billions of gold is there is no code lol.. think about it .. goldbot play to get their gold and if Jm did have a code i am sure some wise guy could hack it. it is safer to just make gold by bots and think about labor cost.. if they were the gold bots they have to hire additional ppl to sell gold they cant do like silk because if they made a website to sell gold like silk that means no bots.. good for us not as good for JM .. no more preminums.. not many ppl will buy premiums.. = big lost.. so JM made a choice tat provide them with the best profit.. and they are money greedy why do you they dont tell you wat avatars are next in line ... they want to u buy and buy and then boom a better one come out.. another 130 silk down the drain... ahh the world of business.. oh yea totally forgot to mention this as well.. most bots tat are safe means if u buy premium u normally wouldnt get banned.. 2 reason.. one u buy premium and silk ur a valuable customer.. two.. the bots also pay JM a monthly profit for their own profit.. $$$$$ man i if i had s hitloads of money i would definity buy some stock on JM lol they know how to s uck money!!!

covenuncle · Post by **covenuncle** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:29 pm

well silkroad had a code before....since claud and the rest of the ppl on babel server from the guild called Fable...they duped gold so as it will ruin whole server economy...we had an inspection right away....code has been deleted....Fable ppl permanently banned...and if u all remember we had an rollback of the server for 12 hours behind...before the code has been hacked...so their duped gold was missing too...

after that gold bots started to appear....

_Shinigami_ · Post by **_Shinigami_** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:31 pm

o rly?

come whats the point of making this thread
everyone knows the true about joymax. :!:

covenuncle · Post by **covenuncle** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:34 pm

so if your theory is true about jm having their profit out of gold selling then they probably have some profit in bot selling companies which sells bot cards for silkroad..and if some gold companies has their limited amount of gold...probably their gold bots got banned or something...

and the ones who pay the profit dont get banned....

and the thing that realy pisses me off is that ,since im playing on babel server...u all know that no bot got banned in last 2 punishments.

for 2 bans in the last month babel had 0 characters blocked...

i really wonder why...and all other servers had like 500-1500 chars banned.

xJ3nnYx · Post by **xJ3nnYx** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:41 pm

covenuncle wrote:so if your theory is true about jm having their profit out of gold selling then they probably have some profit in bot selling companies which sells bot cards for silkroad..and if some gold companies has their limited amount of gold...probably their gold bots got banned or something...

and the ones who pay the profit dont get banned....

and the thing that realy pisses me off is that ,since im playing on babel server...u all know that no bot got banned in last 2 punishments.

for 2 bans in the last month babel had 0 characters blocked...

i really wonder why...and all other servers had like 500-1500 chars banned.

hmm about our goverment for a sec.. half the ppl that are terriost or supposely are terriost do we really know them O.o? it could just be names out of the blue .. all we see it the what they want us to see... no details no proof.. tat is how life is i guess ^^ so dont believe everything media tells u ^^

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:57 pm

xJ3nnYx wrote:Well i got tired of reading everyone's comment so i a just read few sorry if this a repeat.. i was buying gold form one of the goldbots in pluto.. as you know you have to talk to them on MSN, since i am regular customer i ask this chinese guy how come they havent been ban? he said JM allowes them to sell gold and have gold bot.. but they have to pay part of their profit to JM every month. the gold bot are different company .. that is why some gold services only have limited stock...because JM is not the actual gold bot company Jm makes alot of money from preminums because the bots full about half in every server O.o. it makes sense why they dont have codes..to make billions of gold is there is no code lol.. think about it .. goldbot play to get their gold and if Jm did have a code i am sure some wise guy could hack it. it is safer to just make gold by bots and think about labor cost.. if they were the gold bots they have to hire additional ppl to sell gold they cant do like silk because if they made a website to sell gold like silk that means no bots.. good for us not as good for JM .. no more preminums.. not many ppl will buy premiums.. = big lost.. so JM made a choice tat provide them with the best profit.. and they are money greedy why do you they dont tell you wat avatars are next in line ... they want to u buy and buy and then boom a better one come out.. another 130 silk down the drain... ahh the world of business.. oh yea totally forgot to mention this as well.. most bots tat are safe means if u buy premium u normally wouldnt get banned.. 2 reason.. one u buy premium and silk ur a valuable customer.. two.. the bots also pay JM a monthly profit for their own profit.. $$$$$ man i if i had s hitloads of money i would definity buy some stock on JM lol they know how to s uck money!!!

First off: Admission to buying gold.
Now back OnT: First off, every game has a code to make gold. If there were no code private servers would not be able to manufacture gold and mobs would not drop gold as there is no gold generating code.
Second: read every post.
Third: You have no proof anything you said actually occurred.
Fourth: Joymax is a private company
Fitfh: Joymax has one employee in the Isro Office.
Sixth: Joymax doesn't get a cut from gold-sellers, otherwise banning bots would void this deal you speak of.
Seventh: A large sum of gold bots are run by players who sell gold to the gold companies. Are you trying to say that all those players have a deal with joymax?
Final: Joymax does ban premium users. There are players who know premium using bots that have been banned. Recently (like several months back) Gold bots started appearing with premium, they were banned soon enough. Before premium, did people buy gold tickets and pets and avatars and globals? You see, there are to many gullible players in this game. Joymax made plenty of money without premium. They added the preferred access for our convenience. Why can't people just realize, Joymax is incompetent.

Yeah, I'm still not convinced.

xAnyeongx · Post by **xAnyeongx** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:39 pm

WhyKillMe wrote:Haha i dont think so tbh

A few minutes ago outside jangan gate where we were killing bots(lightning thiefs ofc), the goldbot owner came and told us to stop and hes gonna change the path of the bot, later another guy came to kill our thiefs

exactly what i was doing on eldorado, had 4 76+ turks watching me and trying to go pink on me...i believe i slaughtered over 500 gold botters on one side of jangan in mangyang field

they then huntered up and one thiefed and zerked me as i was a trader

this is my theory, i think joymax isn't behind it, but they WELCOME the gold botters cause they definitely make people want to buy premium tickets, basically theyre using the gold botters for their profit even though they aren't doing it themselves

xJ3nnYx · Post by **xJ3nnYx** » Sat May 24, 2008 6:10 pm

lol read all post .. yea i will ^^ maybe in my next life time ^.^

xJ3nnYx · Post by **xJ3nnYx** » Sat May 24, 2008 6:13 pm

Barotix wrote:
xJ3nnYx wrote:Well i got tired of reading everyone's comment so i a just read few sorry if this a repeat.. i was buying gold form one of the goldbots in pluto.. as you know you have to talk to them on MSN, since i am regular customer i ask this chinese guy how come they havent been ban? he said JM allowes them to sell gold and have gold bot.. but they have to pay part of their profit to JM every month. the gold bot are different company .. that is why some gold services only have limited stock...because JM is not the actual gold bot company Jm makes alot of money from preminums because the bots full about half in every server O.o. it makes sense why they dont have codes..to make billions of gold is there is no code lol.. think about it .. goldbot play to get their gold and if Jm did have a code i am sure some wise guy could hack it. it is safer to just make gold by bots and think about labor cost.. if they were the gold bots they have to hire additional ppl to sell gold they cant do like silk because if they made a website to sell gold like silk that means no bots.. good for us not as good for JM .. no more preminums.. not many ppl will buy premiums.. = big lost.. so JM made a choice tat provide them with the best profit.. and they are money greedy why do you they dont tell you wat avatars are next in line ... they want to u buy and buy and then boom a better one come out.. another 130 silk down the drain... ahh the world of business.. oh yea totally forgot to mention this as well.. most bots tat are safe means if u buy premium u normally wouldnt get banned.. 2 reason.. one u buy premium and silk ur a valuable customer.. two.. the bots also pay JM a monthly profit for their own profit.. $$$$$ man i if i had s hitloads of money i would definity buy some stock on JM lol they know how to s uck money!!!

First off: Admission to buying gold.
Now back OnT: First off, every game has a code to make gold. If there were no code private servers would not be able to manufacture gold and mobs would not drop gold as there is no gold generating code.
Second: read every post.
Third: You have no proof anything you said actually occurred.
Fourth: Joymax is a private company
Fitfh: Joymax has one employee in the Isro Office.
Sixth: Joymax doesn't get a cut from gold-sellers, otherwise banning bots would void this deal you speak of.
Seventh: A large sum of gold bots are run by players who sell gold to the gold companies. Are you trying to say that all those players have a deal with joymax?
Final: Joymax does ban premium users. There are players who know premium using bots that have been banned. Recently (like several months back) Gold bots started appearing with premium, they were banned soon enough. Before premium, did people buy gold tickets and pets and avatars and globals? You see, there are to many gullible players in this game. Joymax made plenty of money without premium. They added the preferred access for our convenience. Why can't people just realize, Joymax is incompetent.

Yeah, I'm still not convinced.

well first of all.. no one has the right answer to anything .. not even you... there is no proof whether jm is or isnt with goldbots... and how would u know they dont get the profit of what goldbots... yea from what i said.. it could be a theory but it is more likely to be true than yours... JM do make more money siding with the bots.. so the guy who sold the gold is lying.. okay sure i dont care... but that is what i experienced.. lol i know someone how buys over 500dollar worth of silk and bots.. from lvl 20 to 60 something now.. i dont see him banned...it doesnt takes years to banned the bots.. if you go google bots on websites for sro .. lol i am sure some intelligent JM workers can banned all of them.. they maintain the games i am sure they can do tat..
"Joymax made plenty of money without premium. They added the preferred access for our convenience. Why can't people just realize, Joymax is incompetent." who benefits more from tat statement?? us or them?? lol let vote on tat ^^

also i didnt say all the gold bot companies side with JM maybe only the major one.. when other companies that dont pay for their existance in Sro are prb the ones tat get banned .. and thus the banned names from all the servers.. and you want i found really amazing.. the moment i download the new version of sro the plvl bots work with the new client.. :shock:

amazing.. lol last i checked hacks take awhile to hack.. especially for new clients.. apparently not for JM

so JM is a private server.. lol the more reasons to side with bots.. lol by the way the chinese sro i have it .. there is rarely any bots..

all in all its could be just my "theory" but i have no reason to lie.. you are a Mod .. i am neutral.. i like this game.. like most ppl i think it has some problems.. and i am not one who like to digg dirt just for fun.. lol it just so happened to me that i ask a guy in goldbot services... believe watever you want .. but hey here is my opinion ^^ and i am not spy why i need proof of it happening o.O

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat May 24, 2008 7:46 pm

Understand this: Joymax doesn't need crowded servers to sell premium. Isro is the only version with preferred access. Joymax is exploiting the chaos their community allows. It goes against all logic to crowd your own servers (purposely) simply to force people to but premium. By admitting Joymax needs gold bots to crowd servers, you admit Isro ISN'T a popular game and that breaks down part of your argument. Joymax' current scheme is to take advantage of desperate times instead of attacking the problem at the source.

Purchasing silk causes mutual benefits, that should be understood. Polls are not accurate representations of the truth. "Truth is not a Democracy." You're gullible, just because this gold seller you spoke to said Joymax sides with them doesn't mean Joymax actually does. You just ate everything he said because you wanted to believe it.

Now back to my first paragraph, for I have had an epiphany.

Now if Joymax needs bots to crowd the server, that means there are not enough users of Isro to fill each server. If this is the case, what advantage is there in allowing gold bots on your servers? Even the most simple minded person should see the cost far outweigh the benefits. You lose possible customers, you lose potential revenue, you lose current customers, the game gets to the point at which it can't be sustained without gold bots and what was once false becomes fact. Its a destructive cycle that leads to the inevitable downfall of the game. If you need Bots to crowd a server due to lack of popularity then this happens: The game become less popular, less people play and refer their friends, less people = less silk sold = less income coming from the game. When Joymax notices this they may say, "Oh not enough people are buying premium" so they ask the gold selling company to crank up the number of bots. (assuming your theory makes even a bit of sense, which it doesn't) The company complies and the cycle continues until the game is empty. When only a small amount of users are left the gold selling company stops supporting the game because, "it is a dead-end". The game, from here can decline until it shuts down OR Joymax can take that as an opportunity to re-build. What you speculate is Joymax NEEDs Goldbots to make money, but what you fail to realize is 1]The Premium isn't Joymax' only silk item and 2]Using Goldbots to fill servers is counter productive to the goal of maximizing profits. Your theory requires one to throw all Logic and reason out the window and see Joymax as the big bag evil company that destroys the game. The Blame does not rest entirely on Joymax and your theory makes no sense. If you don't understand why it doesn't make sense, then re-read my post. If you still believe Joymax is behind Gold Bots, then I won't bother trying to convince you otherwise anymore.

Your Theory means Joymax wants to maximize profits but is to incompetent and short-sighted to do it, leading to the downfall of their own game.

I don't even have a theory, Joymax is just lazy.

HawaiianMix · Post by **HawaiianMix** » Sat May 24, 2008 7:59 pm

Barotix wrote:Understand this: Joymax doesn't need crowded servers to sell premium. Isro is the only version with preferred access. Joymax is exploiting the chaos their community allows. It goes against all logic to crowd your own servers (purposely) simply to force people to but premium. By admitting Joymax needs gold bots to crowd servers, you admit Isro ISN'T a popular game and that breaks down part of your argument. Joymax' current scheme is to take advantage of desperate times instead of attacking the problem at the source.

Purchasing silk causes mutual benefits, that should be understood. Polls are not accurate representations of the truth. "Truth is not a Democracy." You're gullible, just because this gold seller you spoke to said Joymax sides with them doesn't mean Joymax actually does. You just ate everything he said because you wanted to believe it.

Now back to my first paragraph, for I have had an epiphany.

Now if Joymax needs bots to crowd the server, that means there are not enough users of Isro to fill each server. If this is the case, what advantage is there in allowing gold bots on your servers? Even the most simple minded person should see the cost far outweigh the benefits. You lose possible customers, you lose potential revenue, you lose current customers, the game gets to the point at which it can't be sustained without gold bots and what was once false becomes fact. Its a destructive cycle that leads to the inevitable downfall of the game. If you need Bots to crowd a server due to lack of popularity then this happens: The game become less popular, less people play and refer their friends, less people = less silk sold = less income coming from the game. When Joymax notices this they may say, "Oh not enough people are buying premium" so they ask the gold selling company to crank up the number of bots. (assuming your theory makes even a bit of sense, which it doesn't) The company complies and the cycle continues until the game is empty. When only a small amount of users are left the gold selling company stops supporting the game because, "it is a dead-end". The game, from here can decline until it shuts down OR Joymax can take that as an opportunity to re-build. What you speculate is Joymax NEEDs Goldbots to make money, but what you fail to realize is 1]The Premium isn't Joymax' only silk item and 2]Using Goldbots to fill servers is counter productive to the goal of maximizing profits. Your theory requires one to throw all Logic and reason out the window and see Joymax as the big bag evil company that destroys the game. The Blame does not rest entirely on Joymax and your theory makes no sense. If you don't understand why it doesn't make sense, then re-read my post. If you still believe Joymax is behind Gold Bots, then I won't bother trying to convince you otherwise anymore.

Your Theory means Joymax wants to maximize profits but is to incompetent and short-sighted to do it, leading to the downfall of their own game.

I don't even have a theory, Joymax is just lazy.

As a wise man once said, common sense is not common. I agree with everyhing you say and I applaud your efforts of ATTEMPTING to explain to the majority whom lack the capacity to understand simple logic.

It just makes me sad that they choose to exploit the communities corruption instead of hitting the problem head first. All in time I suppose.

xJ3nnYx · Post by **xJ3nnYx** » Sun May 25, 2008 2:59 am

Barotix wrote:Understand this: Joymax doesn't need crowded servers to sell premium. Isro is the only version with preferred access. Joymax is exploiting the chaos their community allows. It goes against all logic to crowd your own servers (purposely) simply to force people to but premium. By admitting Joymax needs gold bots to crowd servers, you admit Isro ISN'T a popular game and that breaks down part of your argument. Joymax' current scheme is to take advantage of desperate times instead of attacking the problem at the source.

Purchasing silk causes mutual benefits, that should be understood. Polls are not accurate representations of the truth. "Truth is not a Democracy." You're gullible, just because this gold seller you spoke to said Joymax sides with them doesn't mean Joymax actually does. You just ate everything he said because you wanted to believe it.

Now back to my first paragraph, for I have had an epiphany.

Now if Joymax needs bots to crowd the server, that means there are not enough users of Isro to fill each server. If this is the case, what advantage is there in allowing gold bots on your servers? Even the most simple minded person should see the cost far outweigh the benefits. You lose possible customers, you lose potential revenue, you lose current customers, the game gets to the point at which it can't be sustained without gold bots and what was once false becomes fact. Its a destructive cycle that leads to the inevitable downfall of the game. If you need Bots to crowd a server due to lack of popularity then this happens: The game become less popular, less people play and refer their friends, less people = less silk sold = less income coming from the game. When Joymax notices this they may say, "Oh not enough people are buying premium" so they ask the gold selling company to crank up the number of bots. (assuming your theory makes even a bit of sense, which it doesn't) The company complies and the cycle continues until the game is empty. When only a small amount of users are left the gold selling company stops supporting the game because, "it is a dead-end". The game, from here can decline until it shuts down OR Joymax can take that as an opportunity to re-build. What you speculate is Joymax NEEDs Goldbots to make money, but what you fail to realize is 1]The Premium isn't Joymax' only silk item and 2]Using Goldbots to fill servers is counter productive to the goal of maximizing profits. Your theory requires one to throw all Logic and reason out the window and see Joymax as the big bag evil company that destroys the game. The Blame does not rest entirely on Joymax and your theory makes no sense. If you don't understand why it doesn't make sense, then re-read my post. If you still believe Joymax is behind Gold Bots, then I won't bother trying to convince you otherwise anymore.

Your Theory means Joymax wants to maximize profits but is to incompetent and short-sighted to do it, leading to the downfall of their own game.

I don't even have a theory, Joymax is just lazy.

____"By admitting Joymax needs gold bots to crowd servers, you admit Isro ISN'T a popular game and that breaks down part of your argument."---lol no i dont admit that... it could work the other way around.. JM know that there is way too nonlegit players on.. so they can get away from it .. thus the conclusion..
______"Joymax' current scheme is to take advantage of desperate times instead of attacking the problem at the source."---you said it ^^-- and if it was the case that there are alot of players the total revenue is higher.. the true of it is we need gold bots and JM knows tat.. and since when did i say JM is an evil company.. its BUSINESS.. O.o no business go lazy.. its not run by morons.. private servers need alot more managing and they are more careful than to get lazy... wat ur saying is that JM is not with the bots.. they use the bot.. isnt tat wat i am trying to say O.o wat is the difference if they max thier profit or not.. the end conclusion is the same.. instead of JM siding with bots.. they use bots O.o... wow.. big difference :shock:

and .. sro is pretty popular... and a simple mind person can see that... your right on one thing.. the blame isnt completely on JM its in our community.. we allow it.. and take adventage of the goldbot and plvl bot as well as JM.. i am not complaining or blamin JM .. i am writing in regards of this topic "Re: That whole theory that Joymax is beind the bots..." the gold seller thing.. yea .. gullible... please.. i dont believe media just as much as i dont believe you.. the fact is you cant prove JM is not with bot.. and i cant prove to you they are.. so who is gullible.. :?:

___"Oh not enough people are buying premium" so they ask the gold selling company to crank up the number of bots. (assuming your theory makes even a bit of sense, which it doesn't) The company complies and the cycle continues until the game is empty. When only a small amount of users are left the gold selling company stops supporting the game because, "it is a dead-end". The game, from here can decline until it shuts down OR Joymax can take that as an opportunity to re-build. eh no company is dumb enough to keep filling up bots just to make ppl buy premium..__ its more like there is way too many ppl on the servers..and not enough income is coming in.. mind u it is a "free game" when i first started.. i never brought silk or gold.. i still lvl to 42 O.o just fine.. too many ppl not enough income for them.. and games are addicting..they use tat as a chance to max their profit.. and Jm is not dumb enough to keep fulling server with gold bot.. there got to be a set number of bots in each server.. when a business take tat kind of risk of using goldbots.. in server.. none of them are dumb of enough to keep using it if the player decline.. and if my theory is correct. the number of player is still rising.. thus.. JM is not doing anything but collectin its profits..b][/