Counting Cards

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:18 am

Counting Cards with BlackJack

does it really work?

Sharp324 · Post by **Sharp324** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:22 am

Yeah it does if you know what your doing but most casinos will close the table or kick you out of the casino.

Hearsay · Post by **Hearsay** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:26 am

Yeah it sure does work, but you have to be mathematically inclined to even begin to understand it. It's still gambling though, but in a more efficient way.

And Sharp324 got it right, as soon as they even suspect a card counter the casino officials will be on your arse quicker than a fly on shit.

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:58 am

I know it's possible, but if you think of it, its like no way!

How can you possible guess or know the next card, when the cards have been shuffled? It could be ANY card????

YangKang · Post by **YangKang** » Fri May 23, 2008 12:44 pm

Watched "21" eh ;d?

0l3n · Post by **0l3n** » Fri May 23, 2008 1:18 pm

Cardcounting isnt used to know or guess the next card but to tell how many high cards will come up in the next hand, its actually pretty easy.

AngelEyes · Post by **AngelEyes** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:33 pm

If you want an even better movie than 21 that shows you in detail how it works, check out The Last Casino.

But yah, it's not telling you what specific card. It's telling you when there is a greater odds of a higher card coming out of the shue based on what has been played so far so you can increase your betting for a bigger payout. The theory is fairly easy, but the implementation is only for those with very sharp mathematical minds and a fantastic memory retention. If it was easy, everyone would do it.

0l3n · Post by **0l3n** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:40 pm

SlyckMyx wrote:If you want an even better movie than 21 that shows you in detail how it works, check out The Last Casino.

But yah, it's not telling you what specific card. It's telling you when there is a greater odds of a higher card coming out of the shue based on what has been played so far so you can increase your betting for a bigger payout. The theory is fairly easy, but the implementation is only for those with very sharp mathematical minds and a fantastic memory retention. If it was easy, everyone would do it.

If your using the Hi-Lo method all you need to keep track of is the running total, sure if you wana go do this in casinos you would need to be quick and be able to multi-task.

Mcclane · Post by **Mcclane** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:42 pm

its not that hard actually as long as your using 1 deck of cards

Toasty · Post by **Toasty** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:56 pm

Supposedly it'll only noticably work after playing for a long time.

Inuyasha584 · Post by **Inuyasha584** » Fri May 23, 2008 5:02 pm

spam
ok whats counting cards

0l3n · Post by **0l3n** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:14 pm

Inuyasha584 wrote:
spam
ok whats counting cards

Counting cards is a method used to switch the upper hand to you in a game of blackjack.

l05tfr33k7 · Post by **l05tfr33k7** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:31 pm

LOL what a coincidence.

just saw 21 yesterday...

0l3n · Post by **0l3n** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:50 pm

l05tfr33k7 wrote:LOL what a coincidence.

just saw 21 yesterday...

I havnt seen it yet so no spoilers pl0x.

cpinney · Post by **cpinney** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:05 pm

0l3n wrote:
l05tfr33k7 wrote:LOL what a coincidence.

just saw 21 yesterday...

I havnt seen it yet so no spoilers pl0x.

Spoiler!

0l3n · Post by **0l3n** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:20 pm

Still need to prefect my card counting :banghead:

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:40 pm

yeah lol, cuz i also saw 21 yesterday

but in the movie they make it like it's only for the super intelligents, but in fact it isn't that hard if you're decent with numbers.

l05tfr33k7 · Post by **l05tfr33k7** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:48 pm

0l3n wrote:Still need to prefect my card counting

dont worry

cpinney wrote:
spoiler:

lol ur basically implying that they dont die, and that could be considered a spoiler for some people :roll:

and now i did the same thing...

heroo wrote:yeah lol, cuz i also saw 21 yesterday

but in the movie they make it like it's only for the super intelligents, but in fact it isn't that hard if you're decent with numbers.

they were supposed to be "super intelligent" to avoid getting caught, along with the mathematical skills.

0l3n · Post by **0l3n** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:18 pm

l05tfr33k7 wrote:
0l3n wrote:Still need to prefect my card counting

dont worry

Well on a whole deck I still get 1 or 2 points wrong someteimes

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:19 pm

0l3n wrote:
l05tfr33k7 wrote:
0l3n wrote:Still need to prefect my card counting

dont worry

Well on a whole deck I still get 1 or 2 points wrong someteimes

is it reallt hat harD?

you just have to count +1 or -1, right?

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Sat May 24, 2008 1:52 am

Don't casinos replace the deck after every round? That pretty much screwed it.

Grimm-.- · Post by **Grimm-.-** » Sat May 24, 2008 1:57 am

[SD]Twysta wrote:I know it's possible, but if you think of it, its like no way!

How can you possible guess or know the next card, when the cards have been shuffled? It could be ANY card????

It's Called Math.
Learn it

...Most casinos use more then 1 deck of cards now...
I dont think it makes a difference tho

Squirt · Post by **Squirt** » Sat May 24, 2008 2:38 am

The only way not to get cuaght is to lose alot of roudns.. win.. lose ... win and act casual say stuff like * OMg i never should have come to vegas or * my wife is going toi kill me when she finds out what im doing

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Sat May 24, 2008 2:56 am

Grimm-.- wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:I know it's possible, but if you think of it, its like no way!

How can you possible guess or know the next card, when the cards have been shuffled? It could be ANY card????

It's Called Math.
Learn it

...Most casinos use more then 1 deck of cards now...
I dont think it makes a difference tho

Yeah i know lol, but it's just so weird i mean it could be any card ontop of the deck. Simply because the shuffling is different and not the same pattern :/

Casey613 · Post by **Casey613** » Sat May 24, 2008 3:23 am

Here they use 2 decks. I keep track with my father, after the 5th round it gets easy.
The thing is when a retard that doesn't know how to play joins in, our game gets fcked up, they just ask for more and more cards leaving with crupier able to screw us over.

Dark Shifty · Post by **Dark Shifty** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:37 am

counting cards is easy as sh1t...

Spoiler!

0l3n · Post by **0l3n** » Sat May 24, 2008 2:04 pm

[SD]Twysta wrote:
Grimm-.- wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:I know it's possible, but if you think of it, its like no way!

How can you possible guess or know the next card, when the cards have been shuffled? It could be ANY card????

It's Called Math.
Learn it

...Most casinos use more then 1 deck of cards now...
I dont think it makes a difference tho

Yeah i know lol, but it's just so weird i mean it could be any card ontop of the deck. Simply because the shuffling is different and not the same pattern :/

Counting cards wont work if you shuffle the deck after every round. And usually casinos will use up to 6-8 decks (some use less), this makes it harder to win because you would need a higher running total. After a few rounds it should be easier though.

Grimm-.- · Post by **Grimm-.-** » Sat May 24, 2008 3:53 pm

[SD]Twysta wrote:
Grimm-.- wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:I know it's possible, but if you think of it, its like no way!

How can you possible guess or know the next card, when the cards have been shuffled? It could be ANY card????

It's Called Math.
Learn it

...Most casinos use more then 1 deck of cards now...
I dont think it makes a difference tho

Yeah i know lol, but it's just so weird i mean it could be any card ontop of the deck. Simply because the shuffling is different and not the same pattern :/

After the dealer shuffles you start the counting over.

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