CTF is fun...when you win (and when you lose)

[Libertarian]

First time playing CTF for me, and maybe it's a little bit evil to camp the other team's spawn point, but oh so much fun. And I got a chance to show that my little blader can kill both crossbow rogues, dual axes, euro wizards and whatnot. I got five kills, all of them solo, and died twice (when I forgot my Snow Shield and a wizard hit me, but that's the only thing that killed me), and I'm just lvl 43.

Seven tickets from my first CTF, and hopefully I'll get some more from the next one.









EDIT: Oh, and I showed the usefulness of a blader when a few of them got away, started running towards our flag and I managed to knock them down so the other guys could catch up and kill them.

[ryanh55]

I would like to point out that it is not fun to get spawn camped.. you can do it once or twice but lets show our maturity and learn to have good pvp... how would you feel on the recieving end?

just my opinion...

[Libertarian]

I would like to point out that it is not fun to get spawn camped.. you can do it once or twice but lets show our maturity and learn to have good pvp... how would you feel on the recieving end?

just my opinion...

What is "good" PvP? They could have won if they had been a little smarter and talked to eachother. Let one or two STR builds res and run for the exit - if we don't want them to get the flag we have to chase after them and kill them, which leaves time for the nukers and remainging STR builds to res and take out the people that are still left from our team, if any.

They didn't do that. Instead they ressed and just stood there until the 5 second delay was out, then they attacked.

And I was on the recieving end, when their team had the flag, and I was killed trying to get it, only to res and find myself face to face with a wizard and a xbow rogue trying to kill me. But they didn't, and we fought our way back to their spawn point.

[AngelEyes]

yeah, I'll second the spawn camping. Don't do it. I realize it's easy tickets, but it's not the intention of the game to sit there and camp the spawns. It doesn't make for a fun event. What's fun about sitting there and killing an unbuffed chr? You might as well go kill chrs 20 lvls lower than you. It's your first CTF so I get the fact that it's an easy thing to do, but once you've had it done to you, you'll understand why it's not fun. I was hoping this time around Joymax would randomize the spawn points to decrease the camping, but I guess not.

[Shortcut]

Just a reminder to all the ppl not around for the last CTF our unions all agreed NOT to spawn camp.

I for one won't respawn at all if the other team is spawn camping, I would rather wait out my 20 mins reading the paper than give spawn camping jerks one easy kill.

If you have a good team that can understand each other you can all hit respawn at the same time and wipe out the poor idiots but if you get stuck with ppl that dont understand you than I just wait it out. I refuse to let someone benifit from poor sportsmanship.

[Libertarian]

Just a reminder to all the ppl not around for the last CTF our unions all agreed NOT to spawn camp.

I for one won't respawn at all if the other team is spawn camping, I would rather wait out my 20 mins reading the paper than give spawn camping jerks one easy kill.

If you have a good team that can understand each other you can all hit respawn at the same time and wipe out the poor idiots but if you get stuck with ppl that dont understand you than I just wait it out. I refuse to let someone benifit from poor sportsmanship.

I just don't get it...this time my team were spawn camped, then two people (including our invisible wizard, who was awesome) got disconnected, so we were 6 vs. 8 and we still managed to fight back. I died soooo many times though, and only got one ticket, but damn it was fun! I even got to fight some people from BHA that were on the opposite team. They killed me. They killed me hard. Damn spear nukers.

It was even better this time, actually, since this time it was 8 vs. 8 (initially at least), last time it was 4 vs. 4.

But we didn't even have to respawn at the same time to fight back, just be smart and try to lure a few of their group away, even if it meant dying because of it.

I just don't see the big deal, it's not like it's impossible to fight back. Just a little harder. But that's like saying that a rogue shouldn't go invisible because it's not fair if I don't have 30 lvls of fire so I can detect him...

[AngelEyes]

Like you said, Libertarian, it's your first time in CTF. Wait and see how well it works with the spawn camping after a few days. I don't think you'll be as forgiving after you waste 10min waiting for it to start only to waste another 20 min getting camped, then another 20min getting your party organized again. If I'm going to kill and hour of my time (yes I know that adds up to 50min) I want to have fun play it the way it supposed to be played. Same reason I'm against botting, it's not the way this game is supposed to be played. Once again, since Joymax can't randomize spawn points it falls to the players to try and play the game the way it's supposed to be on their honour.

[WrathShielder]

NO! spawn camping is p***yplay and I noticed in some of the screenshots that the guy even asked you to stop spawn camping and it does suck if you are on the receiving end of it.

The point is you represent the union and all you do is give ammo to people to say blah blah blah are a bunch of @ssholes - why do it? Why be that @sshole? Are you 12? Grrrr it ticks me off for people to just blantantly want to be @ssholes and then come up with a range of excuses of why it is okay............I am done.

[Libertarian]

Like you said, Libertarian, it's your first time in CTF. Wait and see how well it works with the spawn camping after a few days. I don't think you'll be as forgiving after you waste 10min waiting for it to start only to waste another 20 min getting camped, then another 20min getting your party organized again. If I'm going to kill and hour of my time (yes I know that adds up to 50min) I want to have fun play it the way it supposed to be played. Same reason I'm against botting, it's not the way this game is supposed to be played. Once again, since Joymax can't randomize spawn points it falls to the players to try and play the game the way it's supposed to be on their honour.

And using transports to spawn lightning thieves to kill other players isn't how the game is supposed to be played either, so I guess you're against bot traps too?

NO! spawn camping is p***yplay and I noticed in some of the screenshots that the guy even asked you to stop spawn camping and it does suck if you are on the receiving end of it.

The point is you represent the union and all you do is give ammo to people to say blah blah blah are a bunch of @ssholes - why do it? Why be that @sshole? Are you 12? Grrrr it ticks me off for people to just blantantly want to be @ssholes and then come up with a range of excuses of why it is okay............I am done.

So if a rogue goes invisible and I can't detect him because I don't have Fire, and he kills me with one attack, is that also p***yplay? Or if a wizard does the same thing?

Like I said, we were on the receiving end of it in both CTF events, and no, it certainly does not suck. I think it's fun.

[Shortcut]

Well you are china as well so that makes a diff. I am a wiz, I get one hit over and over again. I cant even move before I'm dead.

It does not really matter if you agree or not, unless things have changed, you guild and mine both agreed not to spawn camp.

[Libertarian]

Well you are china as well so that makes a diff. I am a wiz, I get one hit over and over again. I cant even move before I'm dead.

It does not really matter if you agree or not, unless things have changed, you guild and mine both agreed not to spawn camp.

I probably died ten times this time around, it was still fun. The invisible rogue killed me pretty easily.

Ok fine then, but by the same logic, should we not stop bot trapping, since that's not how the game is supposed to be played (killing low level players with your transport's spawns)? Should rogues stop using invisibility? Should people stop getting immune to Ice, because it's unfair to players with Ice imbue?

And I certainly hope you don't spawn camp during FW either...

[Shortcut]

Well you are china as well so that makes a diff. I am a wiz, I get one hit over and over again. I cant even move before I'm dead.

It does not really matter if you agree or not, unless things have changed, you guild and mine both agreed not to spawn camp.

I probably died ten times this time around, it was still fun. The invisible rogue killed me pretty easily.

Ok fine then, but by the same logic, should we not stop bot trapping, since that's not how the game is supposed to be played (killing low level players with your transport's spawns)? Should rogues stop using invisibility? Should people stop getting immune to Ice, because it's unfair to players with Ice imbue?

And I certainly hope you don't spawn camp during FW either...

Bot traps don’t kill real players (more than once). In all of the ones I have been involved in there is someone standing around announcing that there is a trap (for those that don’t understand whats going on) and all the real players have to do is move to the side. Not our fault that stupid ppl walk right into the light spawns

Rouge/wiz invisibility and immunities are game features with other features to counter act them so I am not sure why they would even be brought up.

Now to FW. This is a little bit better of a point but I have a response to it as well. Spawn camping is actually part of FW since the goal is to destroy there spawn point. Now to stand around not destroying but just killing anyone that res'd - I would call that poor sportsmanship as well.

But this is a pointless discussion. Does not matter what any of us think about it. Our leaders have said we wont do it. So I don't do it.

[Libertarian]

Third CTF, won again, didn't get a single kill, died plenty of times. And I got a HP recovery grain from So-ok. That has to be the most useless reward ever. >_>

The best thing about CTF is all the xp you get from killing the monsters.

[AngelEyes]

Obviously, we're not going to change your mind and see how spawn camping during ctf, which is an event for fun, is poor sportsmanship. So I'll stop bother trying to make you see the light. Enjoy all the skill it takes to sit there and spam your attack buttons at a single point. Good thing you don't play euro.

[non ego man]

I for one won't respawn at all if the other team is spawn camping, I would rather wait out my 20 mins reading the paper than give spawn camping jerks one easy kill.

But this is a pointless discussion. I don't do it.

Kinda sums up my rules on the giving and receiving end of spawn camping.

[Libertarian]

I for one won't respawn at all if the other team is spawn camping, I would rather wait out my 20 mins reading the paper than give spawn camping jerks one easy kill.

But this is a pointless discussion. I don't do it.

Kinda sums up my rules on the giving and receiving end of spawn camping.

I probably gave them 25-30 kills during these three CTF's, but who cares? I don't mind dying, since I don't lose any xp, so I'm not gonna stop respawning just because they camp my spawn point.

Wizards and xbow rogues who work in teams are annoying though, I'll give you that.

SlyckMyx: FFS, I already said I stopped doing it! Just drop it already. And by stopped I mean I stopped spawn camping; I'll never stop respawning just because the other team are camping our spawn point.

[PileOfMush]

The last CTF event I was on Oasis with my hybrid int bow, level 47 at the time... And I NEVER had as much fun in SRO as I did then! Since I had a lot of SOM and great accessories, I was usually able to just tank my way right past everyone and go for the flag with my snow shield on and not worry about fighting anyone. Once the flag was securely on my side, I just waited for them to come around the corner and we annihilated them.

Why does everyone get mad when you PVP with ice? It's not cheating!


ShiningBow and my wife always ended up on the opposite team from me. They had no problem teaming up against me.

Must fun ever. I wish it was an every day event.

[Libertarian]

The last CTF event I was on Oasis with my hybrid int bow, level 47 at the time... And I NEVER had as much fun in SRO as I did then! Since I had a lot of SOM and great accessories, I was usually able to just tank my way right past everyone and go for the flag with my snow shield on and not worry about fighting anyone. Once the flag was securely on my side, I just waited for them to come around the corner and we annihilated them.

Why does everyone get mad when you PVP with ice? It's not cheating!


I ShiningBow and my wife always ended up on the opposite team from me. They had no problem teaming up against me.

Must fun ever. I wish it was an every day event.

I'm lvl 43 with basically NPC gear (blade +4), so I'm getting killed pretty easily. I had fun tanking a couple of euro 1h warriors though.

[AngelEyes]

SlyckMyx: FFS, I already said I stopped doing it! Just drop it already. And by stopped I mean I stopped spawn camping; I'll never stop respawning just because the other team are camping our spawn point.

I didn't see where you said you stopped camping, hence my reply. I'm glad you did.

[tedo]

i personally find it way more fun to invis around the corner and wait for their entire party to come running in thinking the flag is unguarded and then nuke all of them back to the stone age

[Skyve]

Da_Wizzard spawned camp us,but I think he didnt know

[Phix]

so true, My level 30 s/s nuker can pwn pretty much everything till i get a 5D sos enemie, then its gameover.


Only thing is i always get in losing team

once it was so bad i logged off and logged back in not to waste my time

3 Wizards and 1 level 31 sosun glavie +3 >_> and 4 others (warlock, rouge, cleric, chinese blader)

against a 7/8 chinese team with 1 2hander.

omfg.

[Phix]

The last CTF event I was on Oasis with my hybrid int bow, level 47 at the time... And I NEVER had as much fun in SRO as I did then! Since I had a lot of SOM and great accessories, I was usually able to just tank my way right past everyone and go for the flag with my snow shield on and not worry about fighting anyone. Once the flag was securely on my side, I just waited for them to come around the corner and we annihilated them.

Why does everyone get mad when you PVP with ice? It's not cheating!


ShiningBow and my wife always ended up on the opposite team from me. They had no problem teaming up against me.

Must fun ever. I wish it was an every day event.

i love my ice nuke with light imbue

pills ftw btw, if the idiots dont bring pills its their own problem. dont you agree?

[Libertarian]

Last CTF pretty much sucked. I ended up on a team where neither the bard nor the cleric felt it necessary to buff anyone, and when the cleric died and didn't want to res, the rogue/cleric refused to switch to cleric, since he could get easy kills 1-shotting the other players, which meant we were all unbuffed, six of us, against a full party of buffed Euros...

But I still got two tickets, and of course (and most importantly) a lot of xp from the monsters.

[t0rch]

lol. first ctf this time around for me, we had a 6/8 chinese party and they had a full euro party complete with a wizard and a cleric. I got 3 tickets because i kept killing JiTa while trying to spawn us

[Kewtie]

I will not spawn camp legits. And normally I will not spawn camp anyone. I have stayed down the entire 20 mins because I will not hand idiots free tickets for being jerks. And on the occasions I have been on a team where the members spawn camp, I just wander back to my little room and stare at the walls. The fun for me is running back and forth, battling it out in the hall way, fighting over the flag, not just being ticket hog. I refuse to do that. I mean spawn camping is like waving around your trophy you won against a one legged man in an @ss kicking contest.

[Libertarian]

It happened again. Ended up in a party where neither the cleric nor the bard buffed anyone. They thought they were tanks and attacked instead, which of course meant that we all died. Again and again. There's no way I can take on a xbow rogue that's fully buffed without even a snow shield, much less a bless or some other buff. This time I just logged off. If they can't play their class I'm not going to f**king die so they can get more tickets.

Why do people get buffer subclasses when they don't know how to use them?

[Libertarian]

I will not spawn camp legits.

That I can agree with, but I really can't see anything wrong with spawn camping a bunch of botters. I won't do it, since we're not allowed to, but I don't see why we can't use that tool too to make their Silkroad experience less enjoyable.

[Phix]

i spawncamped once of the 4 games, pretty much only game we won didnt get any tickets for me it was just standing there watching all the wizards kill the spanwed dudes.


btw dont you guys think its unfair that chinese nukes are way slower then wizard nukes. only way i can kill a wizard is if i do Soul cut, and then shock lion but if hes not in life control i still get pwnt.....

[ThisIsAvalon]

i spawncamped once of the 4 games, pretty much only game we won didnt get any tickets for me it was just standing there watching all the wizards kill the spanwed dudes.


btw dont you guys think its unfair that chinese nukes are way slower then wizard nukes. only way i can kill a wizard is if i do Soul cut, and then shock lion but if hes not in life control i still get pwnt.....

Phantom + knockdown should do the trick.


When the other team is getting spawn killed, buff them. Or, at the very least, if you dont have any buffs, trade spam your teammates who are spawn killing = P