Who wishes that EURO chars never existed?

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

euro was a good addition to the game which before that was at the risk of consolidating to just a few common chinese builds, pure str glaive/fire and pure int sword/fire. euro threw in more variety and together with the skills update, made many players experiment with more different builds, which makes the game a lot more interesting.

pros:
bigger variety for choosing chars
Party übermensch, Parties are more advanced and provide more advantages
easy lvling
high damage
not much need of farming
not appropriate for botting

contras:
pot delay
overpowered compared to chinese chars

I for my piece don't like them that much, they should've powered the chinese up too
while they were at it

[ramy]

to put it in a more simple way, people who own euro charachters will think that euro update was the best update, others will think otherwise
personally i think euro/pfarming/plvling ruined the game. Autoshare grinding is fun, but not the plvling type
I don't hate euro coz they pwn me, coz they dont. I hate euro as they ruined the good ol' job wars
job wars were pretty much about gang attack and how many players u can tank, but u cant really tank being ganged by 2 wizards for instance, or a mix of chinese/euro, or even pure chinese charachters with bard buffs and the buffer is standing in the safe zone !
and there is this part of unjobbed ressers/healers too

[erkakbe]

played sro pre-euro for only like 2 months at 60 cap so dunno much...but euros added variety to the game which is always good

[LockStar.]

Me.

Eventhough I love playing warriors, I think the game was far better off without euros.

I see alot of people quitting their chinese chars in the future. And euro vs euro pvp is boring compared to chinese.

[subzero]

Me.

Eventhough I love playing warriors, I think the game was far better off without euros.

I see alot of people quitting their chinese chars in the future. And euro vs euro pvp is boring compared to chinese.

+1

[KneeGrow]

I Love My Rogue, I really do

BUT it would be a dream to have an all chinese cap again.

IMO: euros should not exist. Another thing I noticed, alot of the younger immature players make lvl 80 rogues, 1 skill you and talk mad sensless shit... not saying that young people shouldn't play the game, on the contrary, but what im trying to get across is that having a euro requiers no serious skill.

Whats the fun of a game when you have a win button to automatically press...

[Barotix]

Me.

Eventhough I love playing warriors, I think the game was far better off without euros.

I see alot of people quitting their chinese chars in the future. And euro vs euro pvp is boring compared to chinese.

lul, I expect people to get a very rude awakening at 90 cap when they notice how big of a deal the pot delay is for Europeans. Joymax is literally forcing people to team up better, there are only two flaws with Europe:

Joymax planned to have a level limit on parties in Isro and planned a 20 second potion delay. On the official forum there was ONE, yes ONE thread that asked to reduce the delay to like 10. Joymax compromised and made it 15, I think while they were doing that they accidentally scrapped the level limit and cba to re-add it XD.

It was: In an X/8 party you cannot party with anyone more than 5 levels above you and anyone less that 5 levels below you. EX:

Say you're level 25, well you can only party with people between level 20 - 30. And I think as people are added to the party the average level becomes the point from which 5+ or 5- is counted from, say you have 7 people in your party:

25
23
21
27
25
28
29

Between what levels can the last person be?
Well take the average: (25+23+21+27+25+28+29)/7 = 25.4
The last player can be between 20 and 30. You can try skewing the numbers to attempt a P-lvl but skewing it up may cause someone to be kicked: Ex:

Note: All numbers are rounded:

a level 25 in a party adds a level 30. The average is now 28, so the next player can be between: 23 and 33, so you add a level 33. The new average is now 29 so the next player can be between level 24 and 34, so you add a level 34: The new average level is 31, and that means the max level you can have is 36 and the min is 26. The 25 is kicked and that changes the average to: 32 which means the min level is 27 and the max is 37. In other words simply making that system would prevent any attempt to get pwrlvled.

@KneeGrow, having a decent party requires skill. Getting power leveled to 80 doesn't. It isn't the euro culture that ruined the game. What ruined the game more is/was the deletion of the anti-power level part.

[John_Doe]

I Love My Rogue, I really do

BUT it would be a dream to have an all chinese cap again.

IMO: euros should not exist. Another thing I noticed, alot of the younger immature players make lvl 80 rogues, 1 skill you and talk mad sensless shit... not saying that young people shouldn't play the game, on the contrary, but what im trying to get across is that having a euro requiers no serious skill.

Whats the fun of a game when you have a win button to automatically press...

lol cause those kids know they can gloat about it then make you in turn come onto this forum and post about it. And don't even bring skill up with this game, RPGs and skill were never one.

[NobleHunter]

No euros? Those endless jobwars? The return of the pot wars?

No thanks.
Its because of euros that im still playing sro, if you are smart enough you can beat euros. As i said before in another thread, i find really funny how some people say euros sucks and others say they are overpowered, crybabies will always have a reason to complain.
Euros are as important as chineses, old days will never be back. Deal with that.

[xkylex14]

I wish there were no euros the game was so much better without them

[William-CL]

I wish there were no euros the game was so much better without them

That would make sense. A game about the silkroad, without europe.....

[Mousetrap]

And don't even bring skill up with this game, RPGs and skill were never one.

Not true. There are several people on my server that I haven't beaten once.. they outplay me each time I pvp them.
To know exactly when the best time to use a skill.. such as a nuke, isn't that skill?

[Da_Realest]

I don't really care about Euro characters much. They do make pvp more interesting, though. However, I wish the Euro pot delay was back at 30 sec. At 30 secs, most Euro chars had to party to level or kill green mobs. Now Euros are no longer party characters. All of them are just as good if not better at soloing in PvE and PvP than Chinese characters.

[KneeGrow]

No euros? Those endless jobwars? The return of the pot wars?

Please?

[NobleHunter]

No euros? Those endless jobwars? The return of the pot wars?

Please?

lol?

[William-CL]

No euros? Those endless jobwars? The return of the pot wars?

Please?

lol?

Would suck............

[Nantosh]

A lot of my old friends left after the Euro expansion though. =[ So I made a little portrait of all my friends that used to hang out with me at Jangan West Gate.

That is just awesomeness...
10000000 years on MS I'm sure...

[Praseodymium]

It would be nice if they had separate servers for different races...

But I can't say I hate the euro race, being in a FULLY functional European party feels so right.

[HappyMonkey]

it doesnt really bother me that we have them, it is that there overpowered.. everyone has switched to them... i did but relized even at high lvls im still getting owned by chinese

[John_Doe]

And don't even bring skill up with this game, RPGs and skill were never one.

Not true. There are several people on my server that I haven't beaten once.. they outplay me each time I pvp them.
To know exactly when the best time to use a skill.. such as a nuke, isn't that skill?

to me that just sounds like they know your fighting style and know when to fire off a nuke or two. That's just being smart, nothing to do with skills.

[Tasdik]

Euro's are fun.
I'm glad they put them in the game

[Glavie's Girl]

What is with all the euro hate lately?

[Tasdik]

What is with all the euro hate lately?

People are finding out how good euro's can really be and don't like it

[Glavie's Girl]

What is with all the euro hate lately?

People are finding out how good euro's can really be and don't like it

Dam those cyber bullies! lol

[_Dutchy_]

What is with all the euro hate lately?

People are finding out how good euro's can really be and don't like it

nah poeple just don't understand that fighting euro's takes a different tactic then fighting chinese

[Rainigul]

Me.

Eventhough I love playing warriors, I think the game was far better off without euros.

I see alot of people quitting their chinese chars in the future. And euro vs euro pvp is boring compared to chinese.

lul, I expect people to get a very rude awakening at 90 cap when they notice how big of a deal the pot delay is for Europeans. Joymax is literally forcing people to team up better, there are only two flaws with Europe:

Barotix is a great mod because he's so smart

Yeah, just you euro lovers wait, when the 90 cap comes, your advantage is going to be severely decreased, and totally disappear with the 100 cap.

Although I'd like to fix one error on your part (though this might be an error on my part): I believe the original pot delay was actually 30 seconds. I was playing ksro at the time, and the update came, I was suddenly able to tank giants with my wizard solo! I was a happy camper.
The pill delay was also originally 10 seconds I believe, but now it's just 1 second.

[NobleHunter]

Yeah, just you euro lovers wait, when the 90 cap comes, your advantage is going to be severely decreased, and totally disappear with the 100 cap.

So we had advantage? lol the only thing decreasing with higher caps is the max number of masteries for chineses
I have my doubts about how good will be the european race against chineses at cap 90, im sure things will be harder but we cant be sure about how big will be the advantage chineses will get at cap 90. One thing is sure, euros will stick together even more at this cap, im expecting harder pvp´s against chineses.

[Progress]

Sorry game is balanced. A wizard cant 1 hit a chinese because they can get fire wall if they dont have it its there problem.

Troll.

[IguanaRampage]

oh, I thought you meant that euro release it what cause it lol But before 80 cap we could atleast log in without trying for hours.

And it didn't disconnect me every time i failed to get in. >.< It took me only 10 minutes to log onto Pacific on the opening day and I thought that took forever compared to what it had been before...

[foudre]

i wounder what people ar gonna be saying about the Arabic race thats coming O.o

they got upset when it said something at the blacksmith´s leg in hotan, maybe they get even more upset now when they got a whole new race xD or they will just play with Islam chars.

to topic: i think the euros messed up the games to much no fun anymore when every traderun have 2+ clerics and wizards with them so really hard to rob the trades

the unsuited clerics are really annoying and they need to make it imposssible for unsuited aide, they tried to fix it by making people unable to party with people not in matching job status, how ever people have all these clerics with them now that you have to get murderer status to get rid of.