how does rev6 work?

[brentonsbbe359]

lies, it's hax!

/slaps TOloseGT

lol, stop scaring them ;P

them as in the people with more posts then you?.....

[Elise]

lies, it's hax!

/slaps TOloseGT

lol, stop scaring them ;P

them as in the people with more posts then you?.....

Post counts count for something?

[Airdack]

rev6 has a bot in every town to record people passing by ... and people with agbot record themselves and people passing by ... well at least that is what someone told me

[TOloseGT]

Post counts count for something?

not when it's just you and me baby

[alZen]

i think the data can only be captured if you party up with either the data collecting bot or maybe even player using rev6 bots. because for quite a while, my character didnt appear in the ladder and when it appeared, it didnt get updated. i usually reject party invites and exchange invites.

[willieb3]

definetly not hax they pay JM to get the info

[DontHackMePl0x]

WTF Drew_Benton on SRF... I presume this is not THE Drew_Benton, or else u guys (SRF Mods) could not get more hypocrite. U DO realize this is one of the main guys from 0x33...
U got a seperate subforum for "who bots on SRF blabla", but this guy is still a member here.

If this guy just uses Drew_Benton as a nick (wich i seriously doubt since he got coding experience and smells like the 0x33 founder), then never mind my rant ^^

Kind regard,

A big Drew fan

[NuclearSilo]

WTF Drew_Benton on SRF... I presume this is not THE Drew_Benton, or else u guys (SRF Mods) could not get more hypocrite. U DO realize this is one of the main guys from 0x33...
U got a seperate subforum for "who bots on SRF blabla", but this guy is still a member here.

If this guy just uses Drew_Benton as a nick (wich i seriously doubt since he got coding experience and smells like the 0x33 founder), then never mind my rant ^^

Kind regard,

A big Drew fan

Yeah, he is the real Drew_Benton from 0x33 who sometime come here to advertise his program

[boast]

not even my 2 year old char is on there

[123noob]

Why does it matters anyone... they got your info, big woop. It all due to JM's lack of security.

[DontHackMePl0x]

WTF Drew_Benton on SRF... I presume this is not THE Drew_Benton, or else u guys (SRF Mods) could not get more hypocrite. U DO realize this is one of the main guys from 0x33...
U got a seperate subforum for "who bots on SRF blabla", but this guy is still a member here.

If this guy just uses Drew_Benton as a nick (wich i seriously doubt since he got coding experience and smells like the 0x33 founder), then never mind my rant ^^

Kind regard,

A big Drew fan

Yeah, he is the real Drew_Benton from 0x33 who sometime come here to advertise his program

Could u please, as a regular poster here, explain to me why he does not get banned ?
It is not that i wanna get Drew_Benton banned (not at all ), but i find it to say the least, strange... It's not like the mods here don't know who he is.

[William-CL]

lies, it's hax!

/slaps TOloseGT

lol, stop scaring them ;P

No, it technically is hacks.

hax can be defined as a program that forcibly extracts information from another. so yea technically.

[NuclearSilo]

WTF Drew_Benton on SRF... I presume this is not THE Drew_Benton, or else u guys (SRF Mods) could not get more hypocrite. U DO realize this is one of the main guys from 0x33...
U got a seperate subforum for "who bots on SRF blabla", but this guy is still a member here.

If this guy just uses Drew_Benton as a nick (wich i seriously doubt since he got coding experience and smells like the 0x33 founder), then never mind my rant ^^

Kind regard,

A big Drew fan

Yeah, he is the real Drew_Benton from 0x33 who sometime come here to advertise his program

Could u please, as a regular poster here, explain to me why he does not get banned ?
It is not that i wanna get Drew_Benton banned (not at all ), but i find it to say the least, strange... It's not like the mods here don't know who he is.

Why should he get banned? The condition to get banned is having a bot proof, not being a member of other community.
But i remember nightbloom caught him has a pic of sm loader or smt, but the mod missed it...

[TOloseGT]

But i remember nightbloom caught him has a pic of sm loader or smt, but the mod missed it...

point mike in the right direction and drew_benton will be banned soon

[Kubijo]

Cough cough, clockwork doesn't even play Silkroad anymore but he is the owner of 0x33? Does the fact that he doesn't bot mean that he can join this forum or not ^^
OK this topic went out of context didn't it?

There a rumor that say, if you visit rev6.com while being logged in Silkroad, they can get your information and update your player, you should try. It pretty scary ^^
Lucky for us this is just a rumor ^^

[Nixie]

if its nothing more then a bot sending info it gathers to rev6, u could intercept the packets and send wrong info. anyone with basic codeing can make there account register as lvl 100 with full sosun. just send fake packets.

That's not quite true Fly. The stats Rev6 collects are from the packets the server sends to your Silkroad client. There are two types of entity "spawn" packets in Silkroad, single and group. Single spawn packets have exactly one entity in it and is easily parsed. An entity can be a monster, player, item, building, npc, pet, etc.. A group spawn packet is multiple single spawn packets grouped together. These are harder to parse but are done to improve efficiency in the game.

Now the player packets that are received contain "visual" related data of the player. The items you are wearing that are "visible", buffs you have on, name, guild, grant, stall info (if available), and general position data. The client only knows what to show you from the packets the server sends you. It cannot do anything on its own.

The reason there are no accessories on Rev6 is because that data is not ever sent in the character spawn packet. Accessories are not "visible", i.e. the client does not draw them, so that's why only the other things are shown. The client has to know what color to draw a weapon if it's enchanted, so that's why the + value is known.

You cannot fake your character data to Rev6. You cannot even send "fake" packets to the Joymax server. Everything is server driven. If you send wrong data you will get disconnected if the error is not handled by the server or possibly banned depending on what types of packets you are trying to use.

Here's an example of something I've started putting together. The program will do the same things Rev6 does; parse packets and log data. In this case I am just logging the model and names of the characters, but there are other things to log as well. This is just a small portion of the number of players logged so far on one server. I did a small run through on the Chinese cities on Neptune and got 1,170 unique players.



Example file: http://volatiledev.net/silkroad/player.txt

Serverstats works by sending the request server stats packet to the login server and processing the reply. It's pretty simple. The extra processing rev6 added such as the POC stats is just extra server sided processing to compute what are your chances to connect. It is all theoretical.

There's a lot of "myths" about things you can do with Silkroad packets, but they are just that - myths. The only real dangers players face are the security holes in the game itself. I.e. any of the stall "hacks" are just flaws in the server logic on Joymax's side. There isn't anything that I've come across that anyone could actually exploit, the game is pretty locked down (but of course nothing is perfect).

Account names or passwords cannot be obtained from packets alone, the data is never sent to the client. So all those rumors about exchange hacks and stuff are fake. Those videos showing people in town with names and stuff scrolling by, fake as well. Back when the SRO website tied your account name to the posting name and linked in the account ID, at that time there was something where you could find an account id in game and link it to a forum name if they posted, but that was fixed long ago. I am not commenting on their web site though, that is horribly done and the real problem security wise. In game though, players are safe.

Pretty interesting... I might play with stuff like this.
Does it work like a proxy or can it be run later? Just want to know... ^^

Also... about your last paragraph. Account information is not really save. I can prove you, but your ID and password will be visible just to you, but a bot or something like that with a sum program could easily steal that. But else you're right, it's not possible to get hacked, not if you're not using any 3rd party programs...

[DontHackMePl0x]

<<stop derailing topics pm sent - bow>>

[borat2]

<<yeah>>

You got a good point there, but explain to me what he is doing wrong here on SRF then i might agree with you.

[boast]

There a rumor that say, if you visit rev6.com while being logged in Silkroad, they can get your information and update your player, you should try. It pretty scary ^^
Lucky for us this is just a rumor ^^

activex must be enabled too!

[Nixie]

<<yeah>>

You got a good point there, but explain to me what he is doing wrong here on SRF then i might agree with you.

Who are you two talking about? o,O

[Nitrex]

A big Drew fan

Let's start a Drew Benton fan club, shall we?

<3

Graduating soon Drew? (: Good luck with all that stuff.


*sigh* why am I even reading silkroad related forums...

[Nixie]

A big Drew fan

Let's start a Drew Benton fan club, shall we?

<3

Graduating soon Drew? (: Good luck with all that stuff.


*sigh* why am I even reading silkroad related forums...

I have nothing against it.

Drew could even sell signed shirts... j/k
(though, could be profitable o0)

[DontHackMePl0x]

A big Drew fan

Let's start a Drew Benton fan club, shall we?

<3

Graduating soon Drew? (: Good luck with all that stuff.


*sigh* why am I even reading silkroad related forums...

I have nothing against it.

Drew could even sell signed shirts... j/k
(though, could be profitable o0)

In all fairness, it should be a Drew AND clockwork fanclub/t-shirt then

(ps: Still no response MrBow ? Removed my post but still avoiding the question, nice one! And sorry for my "derailing"... I would LOVE to start a topic about this but im not allowed yet, not enough posts.)

[DontHackMePl0x]

<<yeah>>

You got a good point there, but explain to me what he is doing wrong here on SRF then i might agree with you.

HE is not doing anything wrong, its the mods here that are wrong. They know damn well who he is and what he does and hes still around here. But they ban people that use the programs/cracks Drew and clockwork make. Don't u think there is something wrong there ?

[DontHackMePl0x]

Why should he get banned? The condition to get banned is having a bot proof, not being a member of other community.
But i remember nightbloom caught him has a pic of sm loader or smt, but the mod missed it...

Errr Surely he does not use the bot himself since they don't play SRO anymore.
But... Whats worse ? Using a bot or creating a crack for it and distributing it ? Am i really the only one that thinks this is rather strange ?

[Rush4Life]

You can read the serverlist data from your own media.pk2 using a certain simple program... I guess they have an improved version of a similar program and connected it to their website I guess

[Skyve]

Rev6 always been mysterious to me
Once,they were giving a link to a bot called rev6/agbot or something like that...
Are they like 0x33,a bot seller company?

[NuclearSilo]

Why should he get banned? The condition to get banned is having a bot proof, not being a member of other community.
But i remember nightbloom caught him has a pic of sm loader or smt, but the mod missed it...

Errr Surely he does not use the bot himself since they don't play SRO anymore.
But... Whats worse ? Using a bot or creating a crack for it and distributing it ? Am i really the only one that thinks this is rather strange ?

lol
So naive... If he develops SM, how could he is able to make it work without testing it? (test = use). Show me a programmer that never tests his program plz.

[DontHackMePl0x]

Why should he get banned? The condition to get banned is having a bot proof, not being a member of other community.
But i remember nightbloom caught him has a pic of sm loader or smt, but the mod missed it...

Errr Surely he does not use the bot himself since they don't play SRO anymore.
But... Whats worse ? Using a bot or creating a crack for it and distributing it ? Am i really the only one that thinks this is rather strange ?

lol
So naive... If he develops SM, how could he is able to make it work without testing it? (test = use). Show me a programmer that never tests his program plz.

You're not excactly the most brightest person are ya ? U said... why should he get banned...Maybe because he creates the crack for isrobot (and ofcourse they gotta test it, rather obvious). What i was saying is he doesnt activly use the bot since he don't play SRO anymore. So i really don't get the use of your post... First u ask me why he has to get banned, i answer your question, and then i get this retard reply saying im naive. GG

[DontHackMePl0x]

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