The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread

[Domination]

Doesnt make so much sense.. my hero? ok dude. Thats just fact that bow can kill 2h warrior @ 1vs1.

seems to me you don't pvp much, if you do, stop fighting people 8+ lvs lower then yourself. Any build can be taken down by any class. you just need to learn to play your build, and learn how others play their own build as well. There are diffrent methods to taking down classes.

Sure a bow can kill a warrior, but so can a warrior kill a bow. Just depends on how you play the game.

When a warrior has his buffs on, it is not PvP if you run away to safe spot and wait for it to finish.

[poehalcho]

ya bow has bomb arrow and mind arrow and autum arrow idioit

however it's much more difficult for a bower to use it in practic. they have to be in a perfect formation otherwise those attack dont work, except for the high lvl autumn arrow (dunno what mind arrow is but w/e), and no need to call me idiot either...

[AWM]

fact? who on earth said that fact? You?
if the warrior has any idea of what he's doing the bower should be down in no time.. tell me what a bower is supposed to do with iron skin other than running away and w8ing it to go away. 1v1 pvp isnt about running when ur opponent puts his strong buffs on.. thats called 1v1 lameness..
anyway dont tell me a bower can tank a 2 hander plz cuz even a glavier might not be able do do this, AND dont tell me a bower can kill a warrior with iron/mana skin/bless on, cuz even a WIZARD CANT

Yeah I just said so? Haha dude check those videos example before u post that running shit, its also if bow knows what to do warrior isnt impossible. Please people I see 2handed players goes mad or something..

[AWM]

Doesnt make so much sense.. my hero? ok dude. Thats just fact that bow can kill 2h warrior @ 1vs1.

seems to me you don't pvp much, if you do, stop fighting people 8+ lvs lower then yourself. Any build can be taken down by any class. you just need to learn to play your build, and learn how others play their own build as well. There are diffrent methods to taking down classes.

Sure a bow can kill a warrior, but so can a warrior kill a bow. Just depends on how you play the game.

When a warrior has his buffs on, it is not PvP if you run away to safe spot and wait for it to finish.

Okey where it shows I dont pvp much? I dont fight lower people, I dont like it. O rly mate? I really dont have to run when warrior have skins on. You just dont get it.

[AWM]

I guess u havent pvped against good bower if you make them run to safezone.

[NobleHunter]

Yeah I just said so? Haha dude check those videos example before u post that running shit, its also if bow knows what to do warrior isnt impossible. Please people I see 2handed players goes mad or something..

nop we are just telling you, all your theories are wrong you cant rely on videos to say a bow is the perfect warrior killer machine, cuz everybody here knows once a warrior use his buffs you are pretty much farked, even more if he use bless spell or debuff you with warlock sub.

BTW 3 posts in a row? Use edit option please, TY very much

[AWM]

Yeah I just said so? Haha dude check those videos example before u post that running shit, its also if bow knows what to do warrior isnt impossible. Please people I see 2handed players goes mad or something..

nop we are just telling you, all your theories are wrong you cant rely on videos to say a bow is the perfect warrior killer machine, cuz everybody here knows once a warrior use his buffs you are pretty much farked, even more if he use bless spell or debuff you with warlock sub.

BTW 3 posts in a row? Use edit option please, TY very much

If you say so boss. Its still not like that you dont have much experience then or just resuming that bs. Skins goes fast, strongbow to stun, arrow combo to kb, antidevil and arrow combo to kb. Warrior notices that he has a problem time is running out, same thing if they switch cleric and bless, same thing. Even when they stun or knockdown I survive well with snowshield and good shield what I can switch for those situations, if you crit 2-3 times in a row ofc u win. Im saying here ive done it many times and that tactic works, you me make laugh when u say that bow running..

over & out.

edit: btw stay on topic.

[NobleHunter]

Yep, after iron skin warrior can use bless spell, and what will you do? phantom away from warrior?
Or maybe if its a warrior/warlock you think you can kill him with no problems when your ass got debuffed?
lol, you can keep saying the messiah use a bow, it doesnt change the fact a bowman cant kill a warrior using iron/mana skin without problems. while they are using those buffs they are almost invincible.

seems to me you don't pvp much, if you do, stop fighting people 8+ lvs lower then yourself.

+1

[AWM]

Yep, after iron skin warrior can use bless spell, and what will you do? phantom away from warrior?
Or maybe if its a warrior/warlock you think you can kill him with no problems when your ass got debuffed?
lol, you can keep saying the messiah use a bow, it doesnt change the fact a bowman cant kill a warrior using iron/mana skin without problems. while they are using those buffs they are almost invincible.

seems to me you don't pvp much, if you do, stop fighting people 8+ lvs lower then yourself.

+1

So now its warrior/warlock, ok I know thats very badass but I dont have experience theres not much in our server. Im not saying that my word is gods word remember that . And what goes to this "stop fighting lower lvl", again I dont do it so stop trying that. Phantom is one of bow skills and its part of tactic too yeah, forgot to mention. Its all about timing when u do arrow combo to kb etc.

Seems to me that you cant take it, 2bad. Claiming that I fight against lower lvl warriors. And finally choosed that warrior/warlock build like "what about this one?!" hehe, we dont have to resume this conversation anymore.

[NobleHunter]

pfff it doesnt matter if the sub mastery is cleric or warlock, is still a fkn warrior, both builds can take a bowman down. You cant take it? too bad

[Recruiter]

mmm if i was thew bow i would just phatom away for 45s until the buff is over and then hit him[/quote]

what makes you think the warrior will not abandon the battle field too?
and even if he is still there he can use bless spell if his sub is cleric. you will phantom away from the warrior again?
If his sub is warlock he can stun you, debuff you and then kill you with a few hits.
Welcome to SRO[/quote]

Uh yes I am, I shall keep phatoming
when the warrior switch from warrior to warlock his mana/iron skin skill is cancelled, so I don’t care if he could stun me cause he cant kill me during 5seconds and his skin cooldown is like 2min so in 2 min I KB STUN CRIT DEAD warriror
noble hunter? More like NOOB hunter! LOL

[NobleHunter]

Awwww, looks like someone is mad
If the warrior is a noob like you he will probably use iron/mana skin before the debuffs, lol, first debuffs then the ownage with warlock skills, its too hard for you to understand?
Oh! I totally forgot about warrior sprint assault, keep running away, the warrior will chase your debuffed ass and kill you or he can leave the battlefield just like you.
No matter what you say you are just a moron with a CPU. STFU

[Recruiter]

looks like ur mad O_O

anyays sprint assult cant out run phantom since phatom has bigger distance, second, the warrior does not have grass walk since he is warrior/warlock

IF the warrior uses debuff, HE MUST switch From sword to warolock rod, MEANING THAT THE ALL WARRIOR BUFFS are cancelled out, so if he debuff, he will lose skin
If he debuff first, ill just use expensive pill to pill away the effect LOL nooob u just got owned
Btw sprint assult sometimes has no effect
Also, bow can kb and stun so slow the warrior till his buffs are not, then he is scrwed
So long noob hunter

[NobleHunter]

looks like ur mad O_O

anyays sprint assult cant out run phantom since phatom has bigger distance, second, the warrior does not have grass walk since he is warrior/warlock

IF the warrior uses debuff, HE MUST switch From sword to warolock rod, MEANING THAT THE ALL WARRIOR BUFFS are cancelled out, so if he debuff, he will lose skin
If he debuff first, ill just use expensive pill to pill away the effect LOL nooob u just got owned
Btw sprint assult sometimes has no effect
Also, bow can kb and stun so slow the warrior till his buffs are not, then he is scrwed
So long noob hunter

So you dont understand?
Of course he must switch to warlock rod, like i told you in my last post WHY USE IRON SKIN BEFORE THE DEBUFFS? If the warrior is a noob like you he will use iron skin before the debuffs.
You can spam all the pills you want, once you have bloody trap and sleep status you are dead, the warrior will kill you in a few hits, even without iron skin..... try to phantom away nubcake

[Recruiter]

dude.....sleep can be pilled away JUST like burn however it just takes expensive pots
sleep dosent always work idioit

and i could phatom away easly, infact i will pvp a warrior/warlock and send u th video

warriors are weaakkkkkkkkkk

[NobleHunter]

dude.....sleep can be pilled away JUST like burn however it just takes expensive pots
sleep dosent always work idioit

and i could phatom away easly, infact i will pvp a warrior/warlock and send u th video

warriors are weaakkkkkkkkkk

20 seconds of sleep status pilled away just like burn while you are also curing debuffs..... sleep cant be pilled away. lol, you dont have any idea of what the hell you are talking about.

[raphaell666]

Bow can win any class, yes even warrior.

........its easy to say, i would like to see a bowman trying to kill a warrior with iron/mana skin on.

Been there, done that. And you can see it yourself from youtube, search "UnDutchable" and "_Danny_" very nice pvp vids.

You done that? Its not that easy. Both UnDutchable and Danny have really good equips, and I doubt that the 2h warriors they fought were using equipment in the same level of their (please correct me if I'm wrong, this information is really important to me). And, on the vids danny and undutchable killed 2h warriors with no subclasses (I think, didnt see all videos), if they did have subclasses, things would very prolly change.

I never personally seen "normal" (I mean between common ppl) pvps between bow and 2h, so these are all assumptions.

dude.....sleep can be pilled away JUST like burn however it just takes expensive pots
sleep dosent always work idioit

and i could phatom away easly, infact i will pvp a warrior/warlock and send u th video

warriors are weaakkkkkkkkkk

Please, keep your mouth shut if you dont know what you are talking about. Warriors are NOT weak. That was a very retarded statement (or you were trying to make others mad). And the pills you are talking about are very expensive, and therefore very few do use them. And I never personally seen/and never heard of a sleep/stun status being pilled away. Please people, lets debate, not exchange flamings.

But, anyways: Due to knockback + phantom I think that this build will have some more advantage over 2handers compared to other builds, and I think that it would be a very hard battle between both.

[pizzagirl2008]

not both, 90 cap comes it'll just be hard for warriors...there's pretty much no gap between the strong bow skills coming at ya if your a warrior since you will never land the daredevil or whatever properly unless you can stun them with sprint -> then hope you get double crits on your hard hitting skills to win!

anyways...can expensive pills pill away ALL the status put on you from warlocks or only the latest one? iron skin and then switch to debuff....that kid doesn't sound very experienced at all ROFL

[AWM]

Been there, done that. aka yes. And yes its far from easy. These dudes have pretty common last set +4/+5. 2h with cleric subs makes fight last longer thats all, warlock is a different thing. Like I said before its all about timing.

Anyone doesnt have to go mad here if im telling bowers can take 2h down good. Like u see in those vids too 2h destroys aswell, surprise surprise. Personally I respect 2h ability to fight long like chinas, and its always one hell of a fight. Much fun tho, peace.

[NobleHunter]

iron skin and then switch to debuff....that kid doesn't sound very experienced at all ROFL

+1

[AWM]

not both, 90 cap comes it'll just be hard for warriors...there's pretty much no gap between the strong bow skills coming at ya if your a warrior since you will never land the daredevil or whatever properly unless you can stun them with sprint -> then hope you get double crits on your hard hitting skills to win!

anyways...can expensive pills pill away ALL the status put on you from warlocks or only the latest one? iron skin and then switch to debuff....that kid doesn't sound very experienced at all ROFL

+1

And 100cap = 5arrow combo + 6arrow combo spam = all euros bb.

[alcoholic]

not both, 90 cap comes it'll just be hard for warriors...there's pretty much no gap between the strong bow skills coming at ya if your a warrior since you will never land the daredevil or whatever properly unless you can stun them with sprint -> then hope you get double crits on your hard hitting skills to win!

anyways...can expensive pills pill away ALL the status put on you from warlocks or only the latest one? iron skin and then switch to debuff....that kid doesn't sound very experienced at all ROFL

+1

And 100cap = 5arrow combo + 6arrow combo spam = all euros bb.

by 100 cap euro will probably have some really gay/anyoing moves....

[Recruiter]

actually no, euros dont get new moves XD say bb to warriors, rouges, and whatever the hell that is in the way cause 11 arrow kb will make gap for strong bow arrow AKA the bow nuke that CRits up to 11k on glavies

[raphaell666]

Been there, done that. aka yes. And yes its far from easy. These dudes have pretty common last set +4/+5. 2h with cleric subs makes fight last longer thats all, warlock is a different thing. Like I said before its all about timing.

I was just reading your last posts, and in it you talk about your fights against 2h warriors... sorry, my bad.

Anyways, I was thinking: And what if a sub cleric binds you? Will you be able to phantom? While binded can you attack? I never used skills that bind. This can change somethings.

Agree its all about timing, so real skills come into play here too.

Anyone doesnt have to go mad here if im telling bowers can take 2h down good. Like u see in those vids too 2h destroys aswell, surprise surprise. Personally I respect 2h ability to fight long like chinas, and its always one hell of a fight. Much fun tho, peace.

Any build that is well done has the ability do destroy, and therefore all builds have strong points and weaknesses.

not both, 90 cap comes it'll just be hard for warriors...there's pretty much no gap between the strong bow skills coming at ya if your a warrior since you will never land the daredevil or whatever properly unless you can stun them with sprint -> then hope you get double crits on your hard hitting skills to win!

anyways...can expensive pills pill away ALL the status put on you from warlocks or only the latest one? iron skin and then switch to debuff....that kid doesn't sound very experienced at all ROFL

+1 With the cap raise the increase in hp and mp (due to higher blues) will be higher than the increase in damage of euros, so it will only get harder for euros to pvp 1vs1. And euros will not get new moves (afaik), but that doesnt mean that they will be weak.

actually no, euros dont get new moves XD say bb to warriors, rouges, and whatever the hell that is in the way cause 11 arrow kb will make gap for strong bow arrow AKA the bow nuke that CRits up to 11k on glavies

Euros will not be weak, though chinese will do better (in general, not all) in 1vs1 pvp, and euros will do better in group pvp.

[Domination]

raphaell666 is correct.

only real skill comes into play here.

[ahmedsabry]

fact? who on earth said that fact? You?
if the warrior has any idea of what he's doing the bower should be down in no time.. tell me what a bower is supposed to do with iron skin other than running away and w8ing it to go away. 1v1 pvp isnt about running when ur opponent puts his strong buffs on.. thats called 1v1 lameness..
anyway dont tell me a bower can tank a 2 hander plz cuz even a glavier might not be able do do this, AND dont tell me a bower can kill a warrior with iron/mana skin/bless on, cuz even a WIZARD CANT

Yeah I just said so? Haha dude check those videos example before u post that running shit, its also if bow knows what to do warrior isnt impossible. Please people I see 2handed players goes mad or something..

1-i'm not ur dude
2- videos dont show diffrence in lv or gear or skill, so u plz "stop running shit" about them ok?
3-i AM NOT a 2H player, i am a rogue.. but ive player warriors b4, and i know what they can do, and ive played bows b4 and i know what they can do
4-instead of just flaming whoever opposes u , why dont u just answer me? what the hell is a bower supposed to do to kill a warrior with iron skin or bless or both on? and what the hell is he supposed to do to stop the warrior criticals?

[ahmedsabry]

actually no, euros dont get new moves XD say bb to warriors, rouges, and whatever the hell that is in the way cause 11 arrow kb will make gap for strong bow arrow AKA the bow nuke that CRits up to 11k on glavies

Euros will not be weak, though chinese will do better (in general, not all) in 1vs1 pvp, and euros will do better in group pvp.

+1.. but i still think chinese chars lose alot of versatility with the progression of caps.. u know, u have to delvl masteries and all..
all euros have to do is add the new skills, while losing nothing.
u'll know what i mean if u look into that blader discussion for the 90 cap.. they r in a real mess of what masteries to keep and what to decrease to 30 and what to remove, or if it is better to keep at 60/60.. etc

[raphaell666]

@ ahmedsabry

The full str bower will NOT be able to kill the warrior while he is with iron skin, mana skin and/or bless (afaik no build can). Everything the bower will need to do will be knocking back, phantoming and stunning, until the warrior's skins/bless runs out. This way it will be harder for the warrior to hit the bower, and therefore his chances on killing the bow will be sort of low. Its not like the bow will win by 100% chances, things will vary according to real skill, equipment and the subclass of the warrior (assuming both are 80). In my honest opinion, the hardest opponent for a 2hander to kill would be a good full str bower.

And I agree, we really can not completely trust on videos.

[Recruiter]

but bow has possibly a chance to pwn every build

[raphaell666]

but bow has possibly a chance to pwn every build

Any well-made build has a chance to "pwn" every other build.