Preferred Glaive Build for 90CAP

ladyykk · Post by **ladyykk** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:34 pm

For me I will choose 90 Heuksal, 90 Fire, 90 Light, 30 Cold but I want to know other opinions.

~Thanks

Katling · Post by **Katling** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:27 pm

90 Heuksal, 90 Fire, 90 Light, 30 Cold.

RogueKiller · Post by **RogueKiller** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:12 pm

Katling wrote:90 Heuksal, 90 Fire, 90 Light, 30 Cold.

Yeah...Plain and simple
Light at 90 is useful
Cold isn't worth it for a Glaiver.

Rozelady · Post by **Rozelady** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:31 pm

u forgot one Heuskal Fire Force (Force With vital nukes u'r undefeatable) some people say how u guys think about this?

RogueKiller · Post by **RogueKiller** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:39 pm

That actually is a good build as well.
With all the force debuffs, at 80 your crit on other players can go up to 15-18k dmg.
If you choose force then:
90 Heuskal
90 Fire
90 Force
30 Light

It does work well.

___SicK___ · Post by **___SicK___** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:59 pm

mine will be:

90 heuksal
90 fire
70 light
50 cold

Quetzalcoatl · Post by **Quetzalcoatl** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:03 am

RogueKiller wrote:That actually is a good build as well.
With all the force debuffs, at 80 your crit on other players can go up to 15-18k dmg.
If you choose force then:
90 Heuskal
90 Fire
90 Force
30 Light

It does work well.

Thats going to be my build...i never thought lvling up force would come in handy until the new skills came out

nohunta · Post by **nohunta** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:55 am

Too bad at lvl 90 you wont be catching anyone. With your lv30 walk.

RogueKiller · Post by **RogueKiller** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:29 pm

nohunta wrote:Too bad at lvl 90 you wont be catching anyone. With your lv30 walk.

Buy speed scrolls?

alcoholic · Post by **alcoholic** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:34 pm

RogueKiller wrote:
nohunta wrote:Too bad at lvl 90 you wont be catching anyone. With your lv30 walk.

Buy speed scrolls?

lol at lvl 90 they have 21.5m phantom or more speed scrolls wont help there.

Rozelady · Post by **Rozelady** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:48 pm

nohunta wrote:Too bad at lvl 90 you wont be catching anyone. With your lv30 walk.

u dont have any Friends ? Bards maybe ? u only need u'r speed with unique pvp and hunting so there is always a bard @ u'r side

keshi21 · Post by **keshi21** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:07 pm

I was thinking about Force debuffs and they sound awesome and work very nicely. But..what if your opponent buys those items that cure those lvl 9 status debuffs? That would negate all Force skills wouldn't it? If it does...then that isnt cool haha

Rozelady · Post by **Rozelady** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:34 pm

keshi21 wrote:I was thinking about Force debuffs and they sound awesome and work very nicely. But..what if your opponent buys those items that cure those lvl 9 status debuffs? That would negate all Force skills wouldn't it? If it does...then that isnt cool haha

yeah there u have a point xD

keshi21 · Post by **keshi21** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:18 pm

Rozelady wrote:
keshi21 wrote:I was thinking about Force debuffs and they sound awesome and work very nicely. But..what if your opponent buys those items that cure those lvl 9 status debuffs? That would negate all Force skills wouldn't it? If it does...then that isnt cool haha

yeah there u have a point xD

=/ I wish I didn't have a point cuz I wanted Force lol

RogueKiller · Post by **RogueKiller** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:28 pm

keshi21 wrote:
Rozelady wrote:
keshi21 wrote:I was thinking about Force debuffs and they sound awesome and work very nicely. But..what if your opponent buys those items that cure those lvl 9 status debuffs? That would negate all Force skills wouldn't it? If it does...then that isnt cool haha

yeah there u have a point xD

=/ I wish I didn't have a point cuz I wanted Force lol

You could keep spamming your opponent with the curses. I doubt he would keep buying new ones because they are extremely expensive.

Lightning at 80 only gives about 1.5k more dmg
Force at 80 can give up to 3-4k more dmg
At with all the debuffs and getting a crit with mars, the damage is ridiculous, 15 to 16k. Highest I've seen with force+ crit+ mars is 21k but the person did have a sun +5 glaive.

In the end I'll take my chance with the 4k more dmg, 1k really isnt worth it.

ladyykk · Post by **ladyykk** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:09 pm

after some research, I found Force 90 is nice but I want to ask some questions:

there is 6 debuffs (Vital Spot-Muscle / Spirit / Body / Mind / Zero/ New skill), can I use them all at the same time ? what is the cool down to use them again ?

Who don't know what you get from Force 90, here is some infos:

Vital Spot-Muscle = Parry ratio 83 reduce

Vital Spot-Spirit = Attack rating 82 reduce

Vital Spot-Body = Decay Lv 9 physical defense 397 reduce (probability 80% 30 sec)

Vital Spot-Mind = Weaken Lv 9 magical defense 599 reduce (probability 80% 30 sec)

Vital Spot-Zero = Impotenet Lv 9 probability 80% 30 sec

Vital New Skill = Devision Lv 9 probability 80% 30 sec

Sounds good for PVP!

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:27 pm

ladyykk wrote:after some research, I found Force 90 is nice but I want to ask some questions:

there is 6 debuffs (Vital Spot-Muscle / Spirit / Body / Mind / Zero/ New skill), can I use them all at the same time ? what is the cool down to use them again ?

Who don't know what you get from Force 90, here is some infos:

Vital Spot-Muscle = Parry ratio 83 reduce

Vital Spot-Spirit = Attack rating 82 reduce

Vital Spot-Body = Decay Lv 9 physical defense 397 reduce (probability 80% 30 sec)

Vital Spot-Mind = Weaken Lv 9 magical defense 599 reduce (probability 80% 30 sec)

Vital Spot-Zero = Impotenet Lv 9 probability 80% 30 sec

Vital New Skill = Devision Lv 9 probability 80% 30 sec

Sounds good for PVP!

You only want the last 4, the first two aren't worth it.

RogueKiller · Post by **RogueKiller** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:50 pm

ladyykk wrote:can I use them all at the same time ? what is the cool down to use them again ?

Yes you can use them all at the same time. The thing you do with these curses is you cast all of yours once, after that you attack your opponent. Keep in mind you opponent will resist a couple here and there but you can do more dmg with at least one. The cool down time is something I dont know.

He doesnt have his force maxed in the video.
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Sry I couldnt find the video I saw a while ago about this. The person had force maxed and used it a lot more. I believe its in the Video Section, I'll have to look.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:30 am

for cool downs on skills use this: http://www.konpaku.com.br/habilidade.as ... &menu=1003

CARNIVAL · Post by **CARNIVAL** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:27 am

hmm interesting things :roll:

RogueKiller · Post by **RogueKiller** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:17 am

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Finally found a decent force glaive video.

Sun +5 glaiver beats Sun +9 glaiver.

alcoholic · Post by **alcoholic** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:18 am

RogueKiller wrote:Code: Select all
Finally found a decent force glaive video.

Sun +5 glaiver beats Sun +9 glaiver.

the sun +5 glavier might have better gear

RogueKiller · Post by **RogueKiller** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:36 pm

alcoholic wrote:the sun +5 glavier might have better gear

Sun +9 gear guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3o15GG8Q4
Sun +5 gear guy
http://www.rev6.com/bplayer.asp?id=66462

They are both in full sun at the time. Just ones weapon is better.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:58 pm

In theory Force is better on hybrid, specifically 1:1 bow. you get the best of both worlds

EDIT:
As a pure str you get your main advantage from the physical def debuff. As a pure int you get your main advantage from the magical def debuff.

1:1
Bow
Light
Force

>.> at 110 cap matters get tricky, but I guess that means more customization for Chinese.

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