BOWMAN OR GLAIVER?????????????????????????????????

[UniqueSpawn]

I am now a glavier, but bowmans have some badass crits plus distance for an advantage..should i stick with being a glaiver or switch to bowman? please explain why in full detals..

[alcoholic]

well in my server i see alot of bowman owning glaviers at lvl 80 because of there crits.
IMO if you dont mind geting curse hearts or silk. i would suggest switching to bowman.

IMO bowmans are better then glaviers becasue they have everythng a glavier has and even more but not the hp boost.
Bowman has higher crit rate
Bowman have distance advantage

Glaviers only have the hp boost...

[UniqueSpawn]

well in my server i see alot of bowman owning glaviers at lvl 80 because of there crits.
IMO if you dont mind geting curse hearts or silk. i would suggest switching to bowman.

IMO bowmans are better then glaviers becasue they have everythng a glavier has and even more but not the hp boost.
Bowman has higher crit rate
Bowman have distance advantage

Glaviers only have the hp boost...

Yea..the 9d glaive looks sick though..lol..but the 9d bow looks fugly..yeah i guess i maybe switch to a bowman but damn!!! thats going to take a long ass time collecting the curse of heart and buying silk would cost alot of money..

[alcoholic]

lol you cant pick a build becasue of there looks.

IMO i rather make anther character.
becasue buying silk is gona cost alot of money and collecting hearts is gona take a long time.
its your character do what you like.

[UniqueSpawn]

lol you cant pick a build becasue of there looks.

IMO i rather make anther character.
becasue buying silk is gona cost alot of money and collecting hearts is gona take a long time.
its your character do what you like.

this is kinda unfair to that euro gets invisibility, with new skills when 90 cap comes out, do you think chinese will have invisibility or something better?

[alcoholic]

i doubt chinese would have invisbility
but in the element fire there is a move that detects euro
i didnt bother getting the move tho i just bought this pill that detects the euro

[RogueKiller]

lol you cant pick a build becasue of there looks.

I picked Glaiver because of its looks...Then again i like it much better than any other weapon too.

Bow- Crits, Range, Bird(Attack Rating)
Glaive- HP (3k more at 80), Stun, Crits do x2.5-x3 damage for Soul spear emperor, magic defense.

One thing the bow skill tree lacks is a defense booster. Bicheon has the phy defense increase and heuskal has the magical defense increase. Bow gets a bird to increase attack rating.

Now its up to you to pick.

[XMoshe]

lol you cant pick a build becasue of there looks.

I picked Glaiver because of its looks...Then again i like it much better than any other weapon too.

Bow- Crits, Range, Bird(Attack Rating)
Glaive- HP (3k more at 80), Stun, Crits do x2.5-x3 damage for Soul spear emperor, magic defense.

One thing the bow skill tree lacks is a defense booster. Bicheon has the phy defense increase and heuskal has the magical defense increase. Bow gets a bird to increase attack rating.

Now its up to you to pick.

+1...People always forget the fan storm..It reduces nuke dmg by ALOT of K's at lvl 80 and if they have no snowshield you wont need more than 15 secs to put them down

I like the bower more tho cuz of the looks/skills

[MysticRose]

One more thing: The 10 Deg bow looks great even the 9th sucks, so expect something good.

Maybe i'm weird, but for me, look > power

[long1]

anyone that say bower is better just don't know how to play their glavier. trust me!

[XMoshe]

anyone that say bower is better just don't know how to play their glavier. trust me!

I like glaviers too...But it mostly is spamming SSE/SSS/GSM and sometimes windless spear. Ofcourse you have to time your GSM a bit but still.

@mystic...You do realize 10D (aka 100 cap) is a long long LONG time away from us.

[ramy]

I wouldnt recommend full str bower in essence, n i believe bowers r only powerful in group fights. Personally speaking i manage to kill most of the sun bowers on my server with just +7 glaive n garms, thats in a 1 on 1 duel..In group fights bowers r hella strong. their damage is ranged, not only ranged but as powerful as nukers or better when it comes to high crits
If i was u i'd stick to pure str glaiver

[Shynygamie]

bow, its balanced, it can tank and damage ppl.

[long1]

anyone that say bower is better just don't know how to play their glavier. trust me!

I like glaviers too...But it mostly is spamming SSE/SSS/GSM and sometimes windless spear. Ofcourse you have to time your GSM a bit but still.

@mystic...You do realize 10D (aka 100 cap) is a long long LONG time away from us.

ummmmm most people keep saying glavier is spamming, right? so tell me..how is other build not spamming! what does bower, blader, s.s do that are diffense from a glavier and consider not spamming?? glavier got 4 best skill to used in pvp...how many skill does other build have in pvp that make them not spamming?? tell me..i want to hear it.

[alcoholic]

every build pretty much spamming.

bladers mostly spam there kd over and over

i still think bowers are alot better then glaviers thats my personal opinon

[UniqueSpawn]

MMMmmm.. Bowers maybe better than glaivers and glaviers maybe better than bowmen..is just that with my glaiver, its kinda ok going against euro esp. wizards. My friend that i know personally has a wizard and certain times when i kill him, he gets back up and run to the safe zone and stay there about 1 min. buffing all his shit. when he's at the safe zone, he uses invisiblity and stay as far as he could away from me since i have detect. I have firewall so he couldnt hurt me much and prevents the first damage so i can respond immediately and attack him..since i cant move with firewall, all i can do is throw my glaive at his face til my firewall is out then i use phantom walk to get closer to him and use kb then spam him sss/sse and take the victory..he brought my health down pretty low.. With bow mastery and firewall to the max, i think i could kill him fast by the time firewall is gone or 3-5 sec later after the firewall is gone or maybe while the firewall is still active in my opinion..with firewall, wizards have a hard time killing me..IDK i really like both glaive and bow but bow seems to be very useful coming to the situation in pvp with firewall and good in guild wars..glavie is close range and going against someone in a guild war, i could do like 2 moves or so then i die by getting jumped by distance nukers. glaivers move are very slow and when i come up to do attack the euros jump me..lol..but not all times i die.. i sometimes just throw my glaive at ppl and look for those standing by their self so i can go for the kill..

[alcoholic]

MMMmmm.. Bowers maybe better than glaivers and glaviers maybe better than bowmen..is just that with my glaiver, its kinda ok going against euro esp. wizards. My friend that i know personally has a wizard and certain times when i kill him, he gets back up and run to the safe zone and stay there about 1 min. buffing all his shit. when he's at the safe zone, he uses invisiblity and stay as far as he could away from me since i have detect. I have firewall so he couldnt hurt me much and prevents the first damage so i can respond immediately and attack him..since i cant move with firewall, all i can do is throw my glaive at his face til my firewall is out then i use phantom walk to get closer to him and use kb then spam him sss/sse and take the victory..he brought my health down pretty low.. With bow mastery and firewall to the max, i think i could kill him fast by the time firewall is gone or 3-5 sec later after the firewall is gone or maybe while the firewall is still active in my opinion..with firewall, wizards have a hard time killing me..IDK i really like both glaive and bow but bow seems to be very useful coming to the situation in pvp with firewall and good in guild wars..glavie is close range and going against someone in a guild war, i could do like 2 moves or so then i die by getting jumped by distance nukers. glaivers move are very slow and when i come up to do attack the euros jump me..lol..but not all times i die.. i sometimes just throw my glaive at ppl and look for those standing by their self so i can go for the kill..

thats true glaviers are stuck in fire wall.
but bowers still can do dmg cuz there distance fighter.
when i fight glaviers and nuker i heal fast becasue there moves are slow.
bowers moves are pretty slow as well but there HIGH damage crit makes up for it.

[UniqueSpawn]

MMMmmm.. Bowers maybe better than glaivers and glaviers maybe better than bowmen..is just that with my glaiver, its kinda ok going against euro esp. wizards. My friend that i know personally has a wizard and certain times when i kill him, he gets back up and run to the safe zone and stay there about 1 min. buffing all his shit. when he's at the safe zone, he uses invisiblity and stay as far as he could away from me since i have detect. I have firewall so he couldnt hurt me much and prevents the first damage so i can respond immediately and attack him..since i cant move with firewall, all i can do is throw my glaive at his face til my firewall is out then i use phantom walk to get closer to him and use kb then spam him sss/sse and take the victory..he brought my health down pretty low.. With bow mastery and firewall to the max, i think i could kill him fast by the time firewall is gone or 3-5 sec later after the firewall is gone or maybe while the firewall is still active in my opinion..with firewall, wizards have a hard time killing me..IDK i really like both glaive and bow but bow seems to be very useful coming to the situation in pvp with firewall and good in guild wars..glavie is close range and going against someone in a guild war, i could do like 2 moves or so then i die by getting jumped by distance nukers. glaivers move are very slow and when i come up to do attack the euros jump me..lol..but not all times i die.. i sometimes just throw my glaive at ppl and look for those standing by their self so i can go for the kill..

thats true glaviers are stuck in fire wall.
but bowers still can do dmg cuz there distance fighter.
when i fight glaviers and nuker i heal fast becasue there moves are slow.
bowers moves are pretty slow as well but there HIGH damage crit makes up for it.

Yea..Im going to switch to bow since it has better advantages..like when im a thief with bow and staying far away while other close distance fighters go in to attack the trader, i dont have to waste any pots while the others are dstracted and have a higher chance of dying. Having a high chance of dying makes me spend more gold or silk just to get back to the last area i died at. Being a bowmen could save me more gold and silk so i dont have to buy the reverse return scrolls as much.. In the long run being a glavier, yearly i would spend more money than being a bowmen buying silk. Even if the reverse return scrolls or any other silk items maybe cheap, but yearly it adds up and might comes up the same amount you get for one week pay check or more..lol

[XMoshe]

anyone that say bower is better just don't know how to play their glavier. trust me!

I like glaviers too...But it mostly is spamming SSE/SSS/GSM and sometimes windless spear. Ofcourse you have to time your GSM a bit but still.

@mystic...You do realize 10D (aka 100 cap) is a long long LONG time away from us.

ummmmm most people keep saying glavier is spamming, right? so tell me..how is other build not spamming! what does bower, blader, s.s do that are diffense from a glavier and consider not spamming?? glavier got 4 best skill to used in pvp...how many skill does other build have in pvp that make them not spamming?? tell me..i want to hear it.

I never said other builds werent spamming..I agree 100% with you that atleast Chinese builds are all about spamming their strongest attacks.

Only like a bower or int guy could use phantom to his advantage to get some range for a strongbow or nuke or w/ ever.

Euro is just basicaly running in and out of safe zone (rogue's/wizards)(not everyone ofcourse but the most) and warrior is also spamming sprint assault, DD, bash or triple swing or something.

[long1]

anyone that say bower is better just don't know how to play their glavier. trust me!

I like glaviers too...But it mostly is spamming SSE/SSS/GSM and sometimes windless spear. Ofcourse you have to time your GSM a bit but still.

@mystic...You do realize 10D (aka 100 cap) is a long long LONG time away from us.

so tell me...what build does not spamming? you said as if glavier is the only build spamming their best attack. That's why i'm confused. if you don't like spamming than what build do U play that's not spamming???

[MysticRose]

Euro is just basicaly running in and out of safe zone (rogue's/wizards)(not everyone ofcourse but the most) and warrior is also spamming sprint assault, DD, bash or triple swing or something.

Disagreed.

A spamming warrior is mostly a loser. Playing a warrior means weapon switching to use secondary skills ( like Warlock, or cleric skills ), and maybe, switching between 1H, 2H and DA skills as well.

[vanom]

well in my server i see alot of bowman owning glaviers at lvl 80 because of there crits.
IMO if you dont mind geting curse hearts or silk. i would suggest switching to bowman.

IMO bowmans are better then glaviers becasue they have everythng a glavier has and even more but not the hp boost.
Bowman has higher crit rate
Bowman have distance advantage

Glaviers only have the hp boost...

this is bullshit. if your gear is good enough, bow wont crit enough to kill you - even with crit 10 bow. a guild mate got crit 10 full blue bow, we're both fully farmed and he doesnt crit enough on me. actually the only way to kill a glaive is to crit with strongbow, powder skill (350%) and several of anti devils. but if your gear is good enough, so many crits just won't happen.

bow does not have everything glaive has. why should i play glaive then, if archer has everything?

glaive got stun - archer got it too, ok. but archer only got one skill which can stun, whereas glaive got 2 of them. means, the probability of stunning ppl is high with glaive than with archer.

glaive got fan - archer doesnt. 1 on 1 archer can use knockback to prevent the opponent from spawning skills, eg nukes. but what do you do, if there are more nukers?

glaive got dull - archer doesnt.


so stop talking bs and think about what you're writing, b4 making a post.

PS: if there are noobs, who just dont wanna believe, what i say, dont hesitate to come on troy and pvp me. just message me here. i dont have sosun weapon or sosun pieces. if you dont have a sosun bow, u cant kill me. if you dont believe me, you can pvp me.

[LockStar.]

well in my server i see alot of bowman owning glaviers at lvl 80 because of there crits.
IMO if you dont mind geting curse hearts or silk. i would suggest switching to bowman.

IMO bowmans are better then glaviers becasue they have everythng a glavier has and even more but not the hp boost.
Bowman has higher crit rate
Bowman have distance advantage

Glaviers only have the hp boost...

this is bullshit. if your gear is good enough, bow wont crit enough to kill you - even with crit 10 bow. a guild mate got crit 10 full blue bow, we're both fully farmed and he doesnt crit enough on me. actually the only way to kill a glaive is to crit with strongbow, powder skill (350%) and several of anti devils. but if your gear is good enough, so many crits just won't happen.

bow does not have everything glaive has. why should i play glaive then, if archer has everything?

glaive got stun - archer got it too, ok. but archer only got one skill which can stun, whereas glaive got 2 of them. means, the probability of stunning ppl is high with glaive than with archer.

glaive got fan - archer doesnt. 1 on 1 archer can use knockback to prevent the opponent from spawning skills, eg nukes. but what do you do, if there are more nukers?

glaive got dull - archer doesnt.


so stop talking bs and think about what you're writing, b4 making a post.

PS: if there are noobs, who just dont wanna believe, what i say, dont hesitate to come on troy and pvp me. just message me here. i dont have sosun weapon or sosun pieces. if you dont have a sosun bow, u cant kill me. if you dont believe me, you can pvp me.

Chill. This is section to help people out, not to flame like a crazy mofo.

At this cap its really hard to tell what is better because its mostly depending on equipment. But at 90 and 100 cap Bow will be a dangerous build, and I am sure it will be more lethal than a glavier.

[long1]

well in my server i see alot of bowman owning glaviers at lvl 80 because of there crits.
IMO if you dont mind geting curse hearts or silk. i would suggest switching to bowman.

IMO bowmans are better then glaviers becasue they have everythng a glavier has and even more but not the hp boost.
Bowman has higher crit rate
Bowman have distance advantage

Glaviers only have the hp boost...

this is bullshit. if your gear is good enough, bow wont crit enough to kill you - even with crit 10 bow. a guild mate got crit 10 full blue bow, we're both fully farmed and he doesnt crit enough on me. actually the only way to kill a glaive is to crit with strongbow, powder skill (350%) and several of anti devils. but if your gear is good enough, so many crits just won't happen.

bow does not have everything glaive has. why should i play glaive then, if archer has everything?

glaive got stun - archer got it too, ok. but archer only got one skill which can stun, whereas glaive got 2 of them. means, the probability of stunning ppl is high with glaive than with archer.

glaive got fan - archer doesnt. 1 on 1 archer can use knockback to prevent the opponent from spawning skills, eg nukes. but what do you do, if there are more nukers?

glaive got dull - archer doesnt.


so stop talking bs and think about what you're writing, b4 making a post.

PS: if there are noobs, who just dont wanna believe, what i say, dont hesitate to come on troy and pvp me. just message me here. i dont have sosun weapon or sosun pieces. if you dont have a sosun bow, u cant kill me. if you dont believe me, you can pvp me.

Chill. This is section to help people out, not to flame like a crazy mofo.

At this cap its really hard to tell what is better because its mostly depending on equipment. But at 90 and 100 cap Bow will be a dangerous build, and I am sure it will be more lethal than a glavier.

how in hell do u come up with that? do u ever play 90 or 100 cap? DON'T guess the outcome!

[alcoholic]

well in my server i see alot of bowman owning glaviers at lvl 80 because of there crits.
IMO if you dont mind geting curse hearts or silk. i would suggest switching to bowman.

IMO bowmans are better then glaviers becasue they have everythng a glavier has and even more but not the hp boost.
Bowman has higher crit rate
Bowman have distance advantage

Glaviers only have the hp boost...

this is bullshit. if your gear is good enough, bow wont crit enough to kill you - even with crit 10 bow. a guild mate got crit 10 full blue bow, we're both fully farmed and he doesnt crit enough on me. actually the only way to kill a glaive is to crit with strongbow, powder skill (350%) and several of anti devils. but if your gear is good enough, so many crits just won't happen.

bow does not have everything glaive has. why should i play glaive then, if archer has everything?

glaive got stun - archer got it too, ok. but archer only got one skill which can stun, whereas glaive got 2 of them. means, the probability of stunning ppl is high with glaive than with archer.

glaive got fan - archer doesnt. 1 on 1 archer can use knockback to prevent the opponent from spawning skills, eg nukes. but what do you do, if there are more nukers?

glaive got dull - archer doesnt.


so stop talking bs and think about what you're writing, b4 making a post.

PS: if there are noobs, who just dont wanna believe, what i say, dont hesitate to come on troy and pvp me. just message me here. i dont have sosun weapon or sosun pieces. if you dont have a sosun bow, u cant kill me. if you dont believe me, you can pvp me.

dude calm down i said IM MY OPINON
you have different opnion then me.

but when is str vs str it mainly depends on crit the reason i belive bowers are better becasue of there often crits and cause they can fight long range

this is IMO you may have diffrent opnion

[LockStar.]

how in hell do u come up with that? do u ever play 90 or 100 cap? DON'T guess the outcome

Im not guessing the outcome, I have seen it. Yes, I have played at 90 cap on kSRO. Also, i use Konpaku as a source to knowledge of the new skills.

Think before posting.

[long1]

how in hell do u come up with that? do u ever play 90 or 100 cap? DON'T guess the outcome

Im not guessing the outcome, I have seen it. Yes, I have played at 90 cap on kSRO. Also, i use Konpaku as a source to knowledge of the new skills.

Think before posting.

think before u posting? be sure to think before u write. Who in the world play 90 or even 100 cap than go back to isro with 80 cap?? YOU? (very smart) and the knowledge u get from konpaku mean nothing btw. so stop guessing unless you know the fact.

[long1]

well in my server i see alot of bowman owning glaviers at lvl 80 because of there crits.
IMO if you dont mind geting curse hearts or silk. i would suggest switching to bowman.

IMO bowmans are better then glaviers becasue they have everythng a glavier has and even more but not the hp boost.
Bowman has higher crit rate
Bowman have distance advantage

Glaviers only have the hp boost...

this is bullshit. if your gear is good enough, bow wont crit enough to kill you - even with crit 10 bow. a guild mate got crit 10 full blue bow, we're both fully farmed and he doesnt crit enough on me. actually the only way to kill a glaive is to crit with strongbow, powder skill (350%) and several of anti devils. but if your gear is good enough, so many crits just won't happen.

bow does not have everything glaive has. why should i play glaive then, if archer has everything?

glaive got stun - archer got it too, ok. but archer only got one skill which can stun, whereas glaive got 2 of them. means, the probability of stunning ppl is high with glaive than with archer.

glaive got fan - archer doesnt. 1 on 1 archer can use knockback to prevent the opponent from spawning skills, eg nukes. but what do you do, if there are more nukers?

glaive got dull - archer doesnt.


so stop talking bs and think about what you're writing, b4 making a post.

PS: if there are noobs, who just dont wanna believe, what i say, dont hesitate to come on troy and pvp me. just message me here. i dont have sosun weapon or sosun pieces. if you dont have a sosun bow, u cant kill me. if you dont believe me, you can pvp me.

dude calm down i said IM MY OPINON
you have different opnion then me.

but when is str vs str it mainly depends on crit the reason i belive bowers are better becasue of there often crits and cause they can fight long range

this is IMO you may have diffrent opnion

btw bro...glavier have higher HP if you didn't know that yet.. they also have two skills that STUN and DULL. glavier crt also hit as hard as bow crt..not as hard but close...so don't base your theory on long range and crt!

[alcoholic]

i know they have higer hp i think 3k higher cuz of passive
but 3k wont help when your fighting a person that does often crits

what do you mean dont base your theory on crit???
the whole point of bowman is crit and longe range

bowman can use phantom as their advantage tho i think thats very anyoing -.-
so they can dash then charge up for their anti devil bow or what ever and heal to.
so being long range can help i have a lvl 80 bow you can come to my server and watch your self.

and let me ask what lvl are you?? if you dont mind telling

[antics]

i thinka full str bower will own
at 80 they will have stun, knock back, and high crits
and lets not forget their crazy range