Homosexuality

[TOloseGT]

fk you too

[StuckUP]

^u r so unreasonable

[TOloseGT]

sticks and stones may break mah bones but words will never hurt meh

[daemon225]

Seriously if you're all for gays and then you sh1t your pants at the thought of incest you're a huge hypocrite.
As long as they aren't trying to have children who the fck should care if they fck their family?

Everything that can be said for/against homo can be said for/against incest.

Morally wrong? Says who?
Sick? Well not to the ones who are doing it.
Not normal? Well neither is liking the same sex.
etc..

(no incest)(no homo)

speaking of incest...a good friend of mine's wife divorced him...for her brother. nasty shit!!! i guess they tke extreme precautions about the pregnancy stuff, but still...c'mon...its her brother. she is a singer and was performing at an event my wife and i were at yesterday. we were walking backstage to talk to some of our friends that were playing the same show and we saw them making out. i almost puked. my wife kept tugging on my arm like a little kid and saying..."thats her brother!" it felt kinda like eurotrip minus the green fairy! it was funny and gross at the same time, and it made beer shoot out of my nose when i first saw the scenario playing out in front of me. the worst part is, a few minutes later they came over to us and said hi. luckily, my beer was running low so we had an excuse to get away from their nasty asses...


back to the gay talk...here is a pictographic representation of my likes and dislikes!

HOT:






nice lol

[BloodOwnzzz]

Still agree with Stall. Blood's ignorance of incest and total acceptance of homosexuality makes my head spin.

My total acceptance comes from me being gay...

Well then why do you get angry at straight people who don't accept gays if you can't do the same for others?

Well you know what then? I hate peopel who do incest. I don't give a **** if I'm being a hipocrite but I find that about 9001x worse than being gay. I'm still defending who I am. I couldn't give a shit about who they are. They aren't defending themselves so who cares...

[Hitman144]

i think itz wrong, dont wanna say anything else

[Pilot]

[William-CL]

I can see a point in thinking it's wrong, Your not gay and don't understand it. Those that have gay family, friends, or are gay themselves have the understanding on the matter. And wTf is up with the talk about inscest? It doesn't even compare to Gay.

[DotCom]

I can see a point in thinking it's wrong, Your not gay and don't understand it. Those that have gay family, friends, or are gay themselves have the understanding on the matter. And wTf is up with the talk about inscest? It doesn't even compare to Gay.

Yes it does compare, morally...

Oh, and I'm 22 year old and i smoke only tobacco.

[TOloseGT]

why are people even comparing -.- it's dumb to compare the two, whoever started it: shame on u!

[Reise]

I can see a point in thinking it's wrong, Your not gay and don't understand it.

So now we have to be gay to think it's right, and if we don't we just don't understand it?

You guys need to listen to what you're saying.

[takolin]

Well if you were able to choose whether your son or daughter was gay or not before he was born would you choose to make him straight? As in altering his genes or some sh1t if it was possible.

I wouldn't want my child to robbed of his/her civil liberties for being a homosexual, but I don't have a right to change his/her predetermined sexual attraction. The chances are so low : 2-4% and 3-6%, I think the majority of us don't have to be worried.

To be honest 2-6% rates are quite high for a "defect".
Wouldn't you worry if you had a 6% chance to have a child with a horrible genetic disease that would kill it within 15-20 years.

Luckily those rates are far smaller than 2-6%.

Conclusion:
Homosexuality = [Biologically] Wrong because it is a defect [a mild one because it doesn't hurt nor aid the species, its just there]
Homosexuality =/= [Scientifically] Wrong because science has labeled it as a naturally occurring defect in a minute amount of animal species.
Homosexuality =/= [Morally] Wrong because the moral absolutes that Humans everywhere are capable of coming up with do not label homosexuality, hell, they don't mention homosexuality and even if they did what right do we have to condemn someone for just living and being who they are?

Bio wrong: Define right or wrong.
A defect would be every small mutation in your genes that shouldn't be there and causes a certain change.

Being ginger would be wrong as well, because it's caused by a mutation that shouldn't be there.

Because mutations happen daily, most people if not all have defects in their genes.

Conclusion: everyone is biologically wrong when compared to someone who has perfect genes. Thus in the end it's not wrong, unless we're all wrong.

Science wrong: As said above: define right and wrong.

Incest is illegal because it cause all kinds of defects. Its just having incest and concieving children you're practically asking for a mentally/physically retarded child. Incest causes mutations, sometimes the mutations are good (evolution) sometimes they're hella bad (retardation). In most cases its hella bad, and thats why people can't fck their cousins.

Incest doesn't cause mutations, but it increase the chance that mutations can express themselves.

Fact1: mutations happen and there's nothing you can do about it. You're body as a few repairmechanisms, but they don't work 100%.

Fact2: everyone carries mutations in their DNA.

Fact3: You pass 50% of your DNA to your child

Fact4: a mutation doesn't always expresses itself. Sometimes the same mutation has to come from both parents before it can express itself.

Fact5: related people share a part of their DNA.

conclusion: The closer you're related, the more your DNA will resemble to eachother. Thus you'll have an increased chance of sharing certain mutations. Thus if you produce a child, it might get both pieces and it'll become retared.

^Hard to explain in words.

[BloodOwnzzz]

It is morally wrong. Personally, I don't see a big difference between homo sex and incest.

My opinion anyways...

Since so many people keep asking... This is why we have been talking about it...

[William-CL]

I can see a point in thinking it's wrong, Your not gay and don't understand it.

So now we have to be gay to think it's right, and if we don't we just don't understand it?

You guys need to listen to what you're saying.

um That's not what I meant. I was meaning that the straight ppl here can't really determine if it or isn't wrong because they themselves have no understanding of gays. And Next time be sure to quote the whole thing when I say You dont have gay friends or family either to understand it. Just because it's different ppl dont like it. So let's just let gay ppl sort it out for themselves cause they may be doing us a favor in the long run so the world doesn't become overpopulated lol.

[Nuklear]

I don't give a **** if I'm being a hipocrite..

And that's the point.
Hypocrites ftl.

[BloodOwnzzz]

I don't give a **** if I'm being a hipocrite..

And that's the point.
Hypocrites ftl.

In this case, where I'd normally agree with you, I would say not. I don't care how much of a hipocrite I am I will never say that gay and incest are even remotely close. I hate them with great intensity and I find that to be truly morally wrong... The comparison of the two makes me sick especially when gays cannot control their feelings and people who do incest can...

[Fat_Smurf]

so many gay people on srf omg

[Stallowned]

Bloodownz you're so full of sh1t got damn son

[Crumpets]

If you like taking it up the ass fine with me. Just don't go around with the gay pride bollocks.

[BloodOwnzzz]

I don't even care what you think of me tbh. I consider myself right you are the ones backing up incest... -_-...

[Rainigul]

I don't give a **** if I'm being a hipocrite..

And that's the point.
Hypocrites ftl.

In this case, where I'd normally agree with you, I would say not. I don't care how much of a hipocrite I am I will never say that gay and incest are even remotely close. I hate them with great intensity and I find that to be truly morally wrong... The comparison of the two makes me sick especially when gays cannot control their feelings and people who do incest can...

What the ****?
So you're saying people can control what they're attracted to? I derive this from your incest statement. Then you say gay people can't control who they're attracted to. So through the transitive property, gays aren't humans, according to you.

straights=can control how they feel=humans
gays=can't control how they feel=???

Blood you're stupid. I think incest is weird in some cases, only redneck cases though. If you're really attracted to a relation of yours though, then ok. That's like the story of the british twins that married each other, they didn't know they were related, and they loved each other, what's wrong with that? Nothing, I'd say. So who cares if they know they're related, when they still love each other?

[Nuklear]

Blood you're stupid. I think incest is weird in some cases, only redneck cases though. If you're really attracted to a relation of yours though, then ok. That's like the story of the british twins that married each other, they didn't know they were related, and they loved each other, what's wrong with that? Nothing, I'd say. So who cares if they know they're related, when they still love each other?

Cheer cheer, rah rah.

[William-CL]

How did this go form gays to incest? lol. In your logic Rainigul, that would mean the same for gays. You cannot control who you love or are attracted to. Most cases you can, but if ou believe in true love, tha could involve gay love as well. Opinions are opinions. I think gay is ok,. I think incest is wrong though. But if you fall in love with someone that you realize later is your blood relative, then I can see why you'd still be with them. But if it's ..... your mom for the sake of ..... your mom, You need some counceling IMO. But Love is Love. A mysterious thing.

There's always some madness in Love, but there is always some reason in Madeness

[crazy_foo]

Idk to me 2 guys together is repulsive but 2 girls is hot. For me it isn't a simple yes or no answer

[StuckUP]

Still agree with Stall. Blood's ignorance of incest and total acceptance of homosexuality makes my head spin.

My total acceptance comes from me being gay...

Well then why do you get angry at straight people who don't accept gays if you can't do the same for others?

Well you know what then? I hate peopel who do incest. I don't give a **** if I'm being a hipocrite but I find that about 9001x worse than being gay. I'm still defending who I am. I couldn't give a shit about who they are. They aren't defending themselves so who cares...

You'd think you'd say something else. Your just as narrow minded as a homophobe. But incest still is eww.

[/Pi]

Six pages in two days, hardly surprising. Threads about homosexuality in one of the largest Christian groups in facebook can reach 100 pages. >.<"

Anyway, no. Homosexuality is not immoral. It's purely biological. Just take the central dogma of genetics:

DNA > mRNA > Protein

Majority of hormones - such as testosterone and estrogen - are proteins. Go figure.

[DotCom]

Looks like i killed the topic with the word "incest" lol. Blood got offended and i can't see how, some guys really understood what i meant ( Stall (no homo)), and there was even a guy claiming incest was ok as long as they loved each other . To clear it up, i compared gay and incest on the immoral level, which pretty much its the same. Because thats what this topic is about, morally right or wrong.

During the whole thread homosexual supporters stated that; as long as 2(or more) gay partners are are fine with what they are doing then its right. Its their free choice and life decision so it is right. Now I'm asking you, why doesn't this apply to incest on the moral level? The act can be between adults, consensual, without procreation, and they are in no way harmful to any other individual different from them. The same reasoning can apply to both, homosexual and incest cases, doesn't it?

Incest is prohibited indeed by law. The law depends from country to country, In some it is restricted only to the core family, in some others extends to siblings, etc. In my country it is prohibited up to the 7th generation. But yet, something that is prohibited by some kind of law doesn't make you throw up even at the thought of it. I'm curious why you get sick at the thought of incest and not homosexuals?


PS: In no way i do support incest. This applies to homosexuals as well as you may have noticed. Meh, was hard to write about all these stuff *pukes*

[Rainigul]

How did this go form gays to incest? lol. In your logic Rainigul, that would mean the same for gays. You cannot control who you love or are attracted to. Most cases you can, but if ou believe in true love, tha could involve gay love as well. Opinions are opinions. I think gay is ok,. I think incest is wrong though. But if you fall in love with someone that you realize later is your blood relative, then I can see why you'd still be with them. But if it's ..... your mom for the sake of ..... your mom, You need some counceling IMO. But Love is Love. A mysterious thing.

There's always some madness in Love, but there is always some reason in Madeness

That wasn't me, it was me being BloodOwnz.

[William-CL]

How did this go form gays to incest? lol. In your logic Rainigul, that would mean the same for gays. You cannot control who you love or are attracted to. Most cases you can, but if ou believe in true love, tha could involve gay love as well. Opinions are opinions. I think gay is ok,. I think incest is wrong though. But if you fall in love with someone that you realize later is your blood relative, then I can see why you'd still be with them. But if it's ..... your mom for the sake of ..... your mom, You need some counceling IMO. But Love is Love. A mysterious thing.

There's always some madness in Love, but there is always some reason in Madeness

That wasn't me, it was me being BloodOwnz.

oh. Well I agree with that Logic to some point anyway.

[takolin]

quote="Prophet Izaach"]Majority of hormones - such as testosterone and estrogen - are proteins. Go figure.[/quote]

*MEGASLAP*

You have 2 kinds of hormones: steroid hormones and protein hormons

Testosterone and other sex hormones are steroid hormones. Just look at their chemical structure. It doesn't even resemble a protein.

Hormones like insuline and hGH are protein hormones.