Weight Taining.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:20 am

Ok so I just need a little feedback from you guys and girls out there that weight train.

I've been weight traing for about 2 1/2 weeks now because I got tired of feeling like a wimp, yes I said it. I mean I have had the abs and toned arms for like ever, but I've always felt weak cause I could only bench 75 lLbs max. Very low. Anyway after 2 1/2 weeks I can now bench 125 lLbs max. Juss wondering if this is a good pace?

Breed · Post by **Breed** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:29 am

How old are you?

/no pedo

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:37 am

be 17 in may, but I weighed like 120Lbs at 6"0" and thought I needed to get some muscle. Juss wanna know if this is fast slow or average pace?

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:06 pm

if you aren't 1,80m + don't even start fitness.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:26 pm

heroo wrote:if you aren't 1,80m + don't even start fitness.

Well I've always exercised by like runnning and stuff like that. I like to keep fit, I just never really focused on weight training

I still need to know if going from 75 to 125 in 2 1/2 weeks is good or not

Jstar1 · Post by **Jstar1** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:30 pm

heroo wrote:if you aren't 1,80m + don't even start fitness.

it depends. Weightlifting doesn't help your growth, but I'm pretty sure if you benchpress or work your legs a lot, that happens.

@topic starter
if your 120 lbs at 6' that is skinny dude. I think your even skinnier than me, I'm 5'8'' and I'm barely 121 lbs. Focus on your arms and do pushups, situps, that way you will gain some muscle. just don't work too much, unless 6' is an acceptable height for you. I'm sure most guys grow until 18 or 19, so your probably still growing

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:21 pm

Jstar1 wrote:
heroo wrote:if you aren't 1,80m + don't even start fitness.

it depends. Weightlifting doesn't help your growth, but I'm pretty sure if you benchpress or work your legs a lot, that happens.

@topic starter
if your 120 lbs at 6' that is skinny dude. I think your even skinnier than me, I'm 5'8'' and I'm barely 121 lbs. Focus on your arms and do pushups, situps, that way you will gain some muscle. just don't work too much, unless 6' is an acceptable height for you. I'm sure most guys grow until 18 or 19, so your probably still growing

I don't really care about my height, I was mainly working on my arms and legs try to gain some weight and muscle. I'm surprisingly not as skinny as I sound, but I would still like to gain some definition. My original question is Am I going at a good pace? 75lLbs to 125lLbs in 2 1/2 weeks? I can already see a major difference in my chest,legs, and arm size.

avanti42 · Post by **avanti42** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:28 pm

machine or freeweighting?

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:39 pm

avanti42 wrote:machine or freeweighting?

FreeWeighting. Too poor to afford machine

avanti42 · Post by **avanti42** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:30 pm

^^ k good

the machines are for pussys

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:52 pm

Blackdragon6 wrote:
Jstar1 wrote:
heroo wrote:if you aren't 1,80m + don't even start fitness.

it depends. Weightlifting doesn't help your growth, but I'm pretty sure if you benchpress or work your legs a lot, that happens.

@topic starter
if your 120 lbs at 6' that is skinny dude. I think your even skinnier than me, I'm 5'8'' and I'm barely 121 lbs. Focus on your arms and do pushups, situps, that way you will gain some muscle. just don't work too much, unless 6' is an acceptable height for you. I'm sure most guys grow until 18 or 19, so your probably still growing

I don't really care about my height, I was mainly working on my arms and legs try to gain some weight and muscle. I'm surprisingly not as skinny as I sound, but I would still like to gain some definition. My original question is Am I going at a good pace? 75lLbs to 125lLbs in 2 1/2 weeks? I can already see a major difference in my chest,legs, and arm size.

you weight 120 lbs and bench 125 lbs?

and started training 2 weeks ago?

:roll:

option 1: You lift it only one time and can't do repetition.

option 2: roids

option 3: someone messed up his numbers.

75lbs to 125lbs is kind aimpressive imo for someone who just started workingout and weight 120lbs

redneck · Post by **redneck** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:59 pm

Blackdragon6 wrote:be 17 in may, but I weighed like 120Lbs at 6"0" and thought I needed to get some muscle. Juss wanna know if this is fast slow or average pace?

WTF?

only 120?

Do you people even eat nowadays? I swear everyone seems to be aneroxic om here.

But yea gg on 75-125lbs...

If you really wanna get good at bench press and gain muscle do reps of 8, 6, 4 at your max weight...but make sure you get yourself a good spotter...
And dont just work on bench press...Do some tricep extensions and work a little on your biceps...Also try doing pull-ups and push-ups. You can't just work on one area.

Post by **Rainigul** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:16 pm

Fat_Smurf wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:
Jstar1 wrote:
it depends. Weightlifting doesn't help your growth, but I'm pretty sure if you benchpress or work your legs a lot, that happens.

@topic starter
if your 120 lbs at 6' that is skinny dude. I think your even skinnier than me, I'm 5'8'' and I'm barely 121 lbs. Focus on your arms and do pushups, situps, that way you will gain some muscle. just don't work too much, unless 6' is an acceptable height for you. I'm sure most guys grow until 18 or 19, so your probably still growing

I don't really care about my height, I was mainly working on my arms and legs try to gain some weight and muscle. I'm surprisingly not as skinny as I sound, but I would still like to gain some definition. My original question is Am I going at a good pace? 75lLbs to 125lLbs in 2 1/2 weeks? I can already see a major difference in my chest,legs, and arm size.

you weight 120 lbs and bench 125 lbs?

and started training 2 weeks ago?

option 1: You lift it only one time and can't do repetition.

option 2: roids

option 3: someone messed up his numbers.

75lbs to 125lbs is kind aimpressive imo for someone who just started workingout and weight 120lbs

I agree dude, wtf? I've been working out for way longer and haven't made that insane progress. Maybe because I'm younger, but wtf, that's faster than shit.
Anyways, if you can genuinely do 5+ reps of 125, then you are indeed going at a good pace. May I ask you how you did that? How often do you work out?

Burningwolf · Post by **Burningwolf** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:21 pm

*steroids*
but if u did that naturally, your awesome

ghostkilla43 · Post by **ghostkilla43** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:34 pm

lol thats bull.
and besides 125 isnt even that much -_-

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:49 pm

ghostkilla43 wrote:lol thats bull.
and besides 125 isnt even that much -_-

for a 120 lbs midget who just started working out yes it is lol...

Toasty · Post by **Toasty** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:51 pm

Fat_Smurf wrote:
ghostkilla43 wrote:lol thats bull.
and besides 125 isnt even that much -_-

for a 120 lbs midget who just started working out yes it is lol...

good natural technique.

am i right to think 120lb is around 50kg?

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:53 pm

Toasty wrote:
Fat_Smurf wrote:
ghostkilla43 wrote:lol thats bull.
and besides 125 isnt even that much -_-

for a 120 lbs midget who just started working out yes it is lol...

good natural technique.

am i right to think 120lb is around 50kg?

yeah 1 kg is 2.2 lbs

Hostage · Post by **Hostage** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:53 pm

Yeah pretty much, Toasty. Exact I think is 55kg.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:33 pm

Fat_Smurf wrote:
ghostkilla43 wrote:lol thats bull.
and besides 125 isnt even that much -_-

for a 120 lbs midget who just started working out yes it is lol...

Why thank you very much lol. But I'm 6 ft prolly 6"1"

I do 10 reps atleast and try to go to 15 each set. I dont really call it my max unless I can do atleast 5 reps.

And no I don't have roids, I can do repatitions, I excell at math

Post subject: Re: Weight Taining. Reply with quote
Blackdragon6 wrote:
be 17 in may, but I weighed like 120Lbs at 6"0" and thought I needed to get some muscle. Juss wanna know if this is fast slow or average pace?

redneck wrote:WTF?

only 120?

Do you people even eat nowadays? I swear everyone seems to be aneroxic om here.

But yea gg on 75-125lbs...

If you really wanna get good at bench press and gain muscle do reps of 8, 6, 4 at your max weight...but make sure you get yourself a good spotter...
And dont just work on bench press...Do some tricep extensions and work a little on your biceps...Also try doing pull-ups and push-ups. You can't just work on one area.

It's this dam fast metabolism. I can eat absolutley anything and not gain a pound. I don't do pull ups cause They seem a lot easier than they use to because I'm so light. But push-ups are a go. Gonna see if I can do 135 on bench later when My older bros home to spot me.

So I guess I am moving at a good pace thanks guys

CrimsonNuker · Post by **CrimsonNuker** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:34 pm

EWWW WEIGHT TRANING GIRLS?

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:59 pm

CrimsonNuker wrote:EWWW WEIGHT TRANING GIRLS?

Fit Girl Nice

. Buff girl Not nice :banghead:

What the hell r you suppose to do when likes to get rough? Roll over and hope she shows mercy.

CrimsonNuker · Post by **CrimsonNuker** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:08 pm

Blackdragon6 wrote:
CrimsonNuker wrote:EWWW WEIGHT TRANING GIRLS?

Fit Girl Nice . Buff girl Not nice

What the hell r you suppose to do when likes to get rough? Roll over and hope she shows mercy.

You wont even survive that long bud, her vag muscles will crush your llama penis.

foudre · Post by **foudre** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:22 pm

How often do you think you can work out? When my family live at our old house and i was in home schooling, i would go down to the basement and work out randomly like 5 times a day, if you have that kinda of time and access, i recomend doing alot of concentration excersises. example is a concentration curl, that builds up mass really fast.

If you can only work out once a day i recomend working out mondays, tuesdays, thrusdays, firday, and every other wendsday, the mondays you could lift for quanitiy and endurance for upper body, teusday for lower, and thrusdays and fridays for lifting for weight. On weds go swimming or running something more arobic. You can do about an hour a day on a plan this and still make good progress.

l05tfr33k7 · Post by **l05tfr33k7** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:29 pm

i hate fast metabolism :banghead:

but ya ur going on good pace dude. keep it up. :wink:

redneck · Post by **redneck** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:54 pm

redneck wrote:WTF?

only 120?

Do you people even eat nowadays? I swear everyone seems to be aneroxic om here.

But yea gg on 75-125lbs...

If you really wanna get good at bench press and gain muscle do reps of 8, 6, 4 at your max weight...but make sure you get yourself a good spotter...
And dont just work on bench press...Do some tricep extensions and work a little on your biceps...Also try doing pull-ups and push-ups. You can't just work on one area.

It's this dam fast metabolism. I can eat absolutley anything and not gain a pound. I don't do pull ups cause They seem a lot easier than they use to because I'm so light. But push-ups are a go. Gonna see if I can do 135 on bench later when My older bros home to spot me.

So I guess I am moving at a good pace thanks guys

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Fast metabolism...thats what everyone says....If you really want to get into lifting get yourself a diet as well.. Lots of Protein, little or not fat and not that much carbs if you want to build muscle. Carbs if you're also running or swimming or doing some aerobic sh1t. Eat a banana or take some pottasium after you work out and reload on carbs and protein...Pottasium will make sure you won't be sore the next day...well not as sore... Drink plenty of water to prevent sores.
Like I said get a diet...I as of right now am on a 3000 cal diet since I'm tapering for Nationals. Normally I have a 4000 cal diet which consists of mostly carbs, but I'm a swimmer so its different. I'm 6"4 195lbs. and 17yrs old
My normal workout consists of 225 lb bench press 8-6-4 followed by some tricep extensions, and leg curls (120) and leg extensions (180). Try to do sets of pull-ups not maxing it out. Try doing 3 sets of 15 pull-ups that'll get you in a decent shape. I max at 27 but i still rather do sets. Try also doing some explosive squats. And later some dryland planks, push-ups, V- reach situps, and leg lifts. Try to get a break in between the days you lift. Work out maybe Mon, Wendesday, Friday and Saturday maybe go cycling or running or swimming if you're any good at swimming some long laps.
Make sure to eat right

Vindicator · Post by **Vindicator** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:23 am

Smurf beat me to it, but to be totally honest, I would totally call bs on that. 75-125lb in 2 and a half weeks leaves only a few logical solutions:
1. You could lift more than 75 to begin with and therefore it seems like a huge difference.
2. Your just wrong (i doubt it)
3. You have some unnatural help
4. Your some kind of genetic freak and I was your genes now.

At a younger age, explosions of muscle and strength are much easier that later on in life, so do it now. If you want to get fit fast and look good, I suggest you first schedule some time each week to workout. I'm not sure what kind of equipment you have access to, but a majority of free weights with complimentary machines can take you a long way.

I'll give you a quick crash course just in case you want it.

1. First, you have to know what you want, and what your willing to dedicate to get there. Set some goals in terms of what you want to lift at the end of every 2 weeks.

2.Its all about reps. If your looking for definition, something your girl can run her hands over and enjoy

, I suggest that for each exercise you strive for around 12 reps, and do 2 sets of each. One your ready to increase the weight, up it by around 5-10% of what you were currently using. (if you benched 100, increase it to 105-110)

3. Resting is EXTREMELY important. I've seen many good friends crash and burn because they dont take the time to sleep at night, or rest in between sets. One minute they are fine, the next they have a torn hamstring, ripped ligiment or torn tendon. Not pretty. Between your sets, allow your body anywhere between 1 to 3 minutes between sets, of resting. Drink some water, or do a different exercise that does not work or do a secondary workout of the muscle you just finished with. (ex. go from bicep curls to squats). When your working out, your ripping your body apart, it doesn't grow and get toner until it has time to rest and repair. Over training will lead to injuries, and cause you to lose muscle mass, not good.

4.Nutrition is also important. You need to take in more calories than you burn if you want to add on quality muscle weight. Plenty of protein is also important.

5. Form is everything. If you don't know how to do an exercise, find out how to do it properly before you injure yourself.

6. Don't focus on aerobic exercise. Prolonged periods of aerobic exercise will actually cause your body to stop burning just fat, and start to burn muscle since it is a more efficient energy source. It also decreases the amount of testosterone that the body creates, testosterone helps in muscle building.

7. Change up your routine. After a long period, around 12 weeks depending on the person, your body conforms to the stress your routine puts on it, and you will notice your results start to slow down. After that period of around 12 weeks, take two weeks off, allow your body ample time to recover, and then switch up your work out with some different exercises that will stress your body. -Number One Rule- If its working, don't change it. As long as your results continue, stay with what your doing.

Post by **Rainigul** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:38 am

Hey redneck, is the 8-6-4 any good? I heard it gets you strong fast, but not much muscle mass.

I also have a question regarding hypertrophy training. Pro bodybuilders do sets with 12 reps, because that's the type of training that builds muscle fast, but I heard it doesn't add as much strength as 8 reps, though 8 reps increases the size of your nucleuses, increasing muscle mass a bit, but it also increases strength.

How do bodybuilders do it? Do they start out with low reps and get strong, then do high rep numbers?
Or what?

I've been doing 8-12 and I think that's why my results are there, but not as badass as I want 'em to be.
I want help too lol.

Also, it's a good idea to put on weight when bulking, right? How long does it take to bulk? ~6 months? I just wanna get up a little bit more, then I'll change to hypertrophy and lose weight.

Thanks.

redneck · Post by **redneck** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:41 am

8-6-4 seems to work for me and all the people I know...I may not be the biggest guy (in muscle mass, as in I don't look like a linebacker or anything) but I think I'm pretty strong. More reps and less weight is for tonage and less reps and more weight is for muscle mass...But to get cut and gain strength I find the 8-6-4 to be the best option. But do as you like.

Post by **Rainigul** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:14 am

redneck wrote:8-6-4 seems to work for me and all the people I know...I may not be the biggest guy (in muscle mass, as in I don't look like a linebacker or anything) but I think I'm pretty strong. More reps and less weight is for tonage and less reps and more weight is for muscle mass...But to get cut and gain strength I find the 8-6-4 to be the best option. But do as you like.

I was doing 8 reps because I thought that was good, my bro is the biggest and Farking strongest guy I know, benches 400 pounds 12 reps, 19 inch arms, insane.
He does 8-12 reps, I think he had it right though when he said "It's 20% working out, 80% diet". I'm gonna stop eating shit.
Gotta ask you a question though, I don't live with my brother anymore, do you figure I could use jolly ranchers as cheats? I dunno how many calories they are, but I think they're less than 20 cals a pop (I eat one at a time, once a week on average) and I think they have 0 fat... Can I keep doing that? Or should I just quit it?