The North American Union (2010)

[agent420]

Why doesnt mexico have an olympic team?


Because everybody who can run,jump,and swim are already in the U.S

you'd better watch who you make fun of!

i know mexican judo...


judon't know if i got a knife...
judon't know if i got a gun...
judon't know what i got....

[CrimsonNuker]

Why doesnt mexico have an olympic team?
Because everybody who can run,jump,and swim are already in the U.S

Don't forget Cross Country.

[Silver0]

well it doesnt matter religious fanatics will agree on it
thats 100mil ppl in the us
and the other % that are not wont care as long as they have cellphones that cook and rub there balls.

So as a Race We failed To become something great only way of fighting it would be a Revolution but they tend to shoot ppl who can change the system

Human race// -1tril
fascist totalitarian Government// +1tril

your children wont even know since thell be to busy reading what Britney spears is doing and what would be the next hot cell phone,or other entertainment venue to come out most of them would be jobless b/c of outsourcing so thell live under slavery under debt and there social # wont exist thell just tax you 25% even though its against the Sixteenth Amendment

but ppl who are against it are nut jobs the fact that you can be arrested searched and stripped of all your properties for no reason is being an American trading your freedom for safety from people we armed

And going against the goverment is like going against god

And going against god is living eternal life in pain

2008
*sigh* the evil muthafuckers always win

[Reise]

Hmm, must've missed this the first time around.

Yes everyone, America is against you. We're gonna make one big government and remove all civil rights. You're going to be our slaves.

Some, or part, of our rights are already gone. You're saying we aren't slaves already? So this time around I can choose not to pay my taxes b/c I don't want anything the fed offers, ie retracting my consent?

What the hell are you talking about? Go ahead and don't pay your taxes, if you think taxes and slavery are the same. You're still free to gtfo any time you wish, no one is forcing you to be here.

[CrimsonNuker]

Hmm, must've missed this the first time around.

Yes everyone, America is against you. We're gonna make one big government and remove all civil rights. You're going to be our slaves.

Some, or part, of our rights are already gone. You're saying we aren't slaves already? So this time around I can choose not to pay my taxes b/c I don't want anything the fed offers, ie retracting my consent?

What the hell are you talking about? Go ahead and don't pay your taxes, if you think taxes and slavery are the same. You're still free to gtfo any time you wish, no one is forcing you to be here.

Dont Pay Taxes->Alcapone->SLAMMAH.

[Blindfire]

If this happens, which I doubt it will, the countries won't all merge and the constitutions won't be destroyed. It will be the same as the EU, countries still make their own laws, have their own languages, and their own cultures. As for the "amero", this will only help Mexico as the CDN$ is almost equal with the US$ anyway.

[CrimsonNuker]

If this happens, which I doubt it will, the countries won't all merge and the constitutions won't be destroyed. It will be the same as the EU, countries still make their own laws, have their own languages, and their own cultures. As for the "amero", this will only help Mexico as the CDN$ is almost equal with the US$ anyway.

Last time i checked CDN$>USA$...

which is a while ago, so i could be wrong

[Blindfire]

If this happens, which I doubt it will, the countries won't all merge and the constitutions won't be destroyed. It will be the same as the EU, countries still make their own laws, have their own languages, and their own cultures. As for the "amero", this will only help Mexico as the CDN$ is almost equal with the US$ anyway.

Last time i checked CDN$>USA$...

which is a while ago, so i could be wrong

I thought 1 CDN$ was .98 US$.

[Reise]

And for people arguing "Oh we won't have an identity anymore, we'll all be robots!" shut the hell up. What identity does the US, Mexico or Canada even have? They were all founded by colonies at some point in their history, and hell 99% of the people living in the US came from another country at some point.

[Silver0]

Hmm, must've missed this the first time around.

Yes everyone, America is against you. We're gonna make one big government and remove all civil rights. You're going to be our slaves.

Some, or part, of our rights are already gone. You're saying we aren't slaves already? So this time around I can choose not to pay my taxes b/c I don't want anything the fed offers, ie retracting my consent?

What the hell are you talking about? Go ahead and don't pay your taxes, if you think taxes and slavery are the same. You're still free to gtfo any time you wish, no one is forcing you to be here.

lol taxes are not slavery
but taxes are not calculated
taxes have become theft since they dont even Tax you the right amount hint tax return
not taxing the right amount is Unconstitutional
So in tard forum words they steal 2-3months of your pay check and let you decide how much you want back the less you claim the more they steal another way of committing fraud

[Reise]

Taxes suck but they are necessary.

[XemnasXD]

OMG...not another one of these threads...

Level 14 anti-conformist GO!
*Sonic Scream
*Sonic Scream
*Sonic Scream
*Tail Whip!!!

i don't remember dom learning tail whip....

[Nuklear]

Hmm, must've missed this the first time around.

Yes everyone, America is against you. We're gonna make one big government and remove all civil rights. You're going to be our slaves.

Some, or part, of our rights are already gone. You're saying we aren't slaves already? So this time around I can choose not to pay my taxes b/c I don't want anything the fed offers, ie retracting my consent?

What the hell are you talking about? Go ahead and don't pay your taxes, if you think taxes and slavery are the same. You're still free to gtfo any time you wish, no one is forcing you to be here.

I don't think taxes and slavery are the same, I know they are. No one is forcing me to be here but someone is forcing me to do something I don't agree with. I never signed a contract that said I agree to pay taxes.

Taxes suck but they are necessary.

For govt, as of now.

[Reise]

I'm pretty sure that citizenship implies taxpaying. You can't just be here and freeload like nobody else matters.

[XemnasXD]

I'm pretty sure that citizenship implies taxpaying. You can't just be here and freeload like nobody else matters.

Puerto Rico has access to everything a US citizen has access to except they don't have ot pay federal taxes....thats the main reason they keep voting not to become a state....

[Reise]

Hey, everybody's different.

[Nuklear]

I'm pretty sure that citizenship implies taxpaying. You can't just be here and freeload like nobody else matters.

Xem did a gj, but I'd like to challenge Reise's conventional thinking even farther.
I assume that all these rules for citizenship are in the Constitution. If that's so, I don't remember signing such a thing. I do remember a small amount of people signing it and a multitude of states agreeing to it since then, but I don't remember giving my own consent.

[Reise]

I'm pretty sure that citizenship implies taxpaying. You can't just be here and freeload like nobody else matters.

Xem did a gj, but I'd like to challenge Reise's conventional thinking even farther.
I assume that all these rules for citizenship are in the Constitution. If that's so, I don't remember signing such a thing. I do remember a small amount of people signing it and a multitude of states agreeing to it since then, but I don't remember giving my own consent.

Dude I don't care. Don't pay your taxes, get farked by the IRS, and enjoy your life of rebellion. I'm not in the mood to discuss the fairness of taxes, or whether you should be bound to a constitution by citizenship.

[Barotix]

EDIT: Read a few more articles, and I support the passing of the NAU. Besides, whats the worst that could happen? Totalitarian rule

Thought provoking: I say this country no longer heeds to the constitution, what say you my fellow members?

lulz i farted.

EVERYBODY WILL BECOME AMERIKAN!!!111

Fixed

EDIT: What do you guys think of social security: Constitutional or not?

[Jstar1]

I don't think taxes and slavery are the same, I know they are. No one is forcing me to be here but someone is forcing me to do something I don't agree with. I never signed a contract that said I agree to pay taxes.

are you nuts? the government can't run without money. I'm sure everyone hates taxes and filing taxes, but in the end, its your tax money that goes about for country's good. ok the iraq war was a mistake, bush is an idiot, and he's using our tax money. But roads, public education, etc you don't have to pay for.

the government also needs money to run the country and pay its teachers, government officials, etc. The government needs money to develop new weapons to defend itself, research new spaceships, and other medicine stuff.

I can't believe you think being taxed is being a slave to the government. Wow, I have never likened taxes to something like slavery. If you hate the government that much, go to andorra or somewhere where its a tax-free haven.

[Nuklear]

Dude I don't care. Don't pay your taxes, get farked by the IRS, and enjoy your life of rebellion. I'm not in the mood to discuss the fairness of taxes, or whether you should be bound to a constitution by citizenship.

Cause: Challenge your thoughts
Effect: [Go **** yourself]
hehehe

are you nuts? the government can't run without money. I'm sure everyone hates taxes and filing taxes, but in the end, its your tax money that goes about for country's good. ok the iraq war was a mistake, bush is an idiot, and he's using our tax money. But roads, public education, etc you don't have to pay for.

the government also needs money to run the country and pay its teachers, government officials, etc. The government needs money to develop new weapons to defend itself, research new spaceships, and other medicine stuff.

I can't believe you think being taxed is being a slave to the government. Wow, I have never likened taxes to something like slavery. If you hate the government that much, go to andorra or somewhere where its a tax-free haven.

I don't agree with anything the govt does with money. Anything good it does could easily be done better and more efficiently in the marketplace. Not to mention, govt itself is force. I don't agree to using force so I don't agree with govt. I refuse to believe in order to live we need to have someone, or something, better then us. Also, democracy is just a more appealing cancer. Tyranny of the majority.
To the cliche of 'if you don't like it, get out!' point me in the right direction and I will go. As far as I can see, no such free country exists.

[fethrin]

i cant see that ever happening or working

[Nuklear]

i cant see that ever happening or working

Of course you're skeptical, it's only happened once in documented history. The vikings of northern Europe used a free market system for a while. I could type on and on but I suggest anyone interested d/l the audiobook in my sig.

[dom]

OMG...not another one of these threads...

Level 14 anti-conformist GO!
*Sonic Scream
*Sonic Scream
*Sonic Scream
*Tail Whip!!!

i don't remember dom learning tail whip....

You'd be surprised, baby.

[Jstar1]

EDIT: Read a few more articles, and I support the passing of the NAU. Besides, whats the worst that could happen? Totalitarian rule

Thought provoking: I say this country no longer heeds to the constitution, what say you my fellow members?

lulz i farted.

EVERYBODY WILL BECOME AMERIKAN!!!111

Fixed

EDIT: What do you guys think of social security: Constitutional or not?

social security is going to screw us over. Getting rid of it and then having universal healthcare is much better, like governments in europe where the government pays for your health insurance. I'm sure that the united states can do that, if only we would stop wasting money in dumb people in dumb countries like iraq

[redneck]

I FIGURED OUT A WAY TO LOWER OIL PRICES!!!!

We take some army....We attack some Muslim country that has alot of oil....And lets say they have Weapons of Mass Destruction!!! We then steal their oil and GTFO.../.

[Pilot]

I FIGURED OUT A WAY TO LOWER OIL PRICES!!!!

We take some army....We attack some Muslim country that has alot of oil....And lets say they have Weapons of Mass Destruction!!! We then steal their oil and GTFO.../.

Bush is an @sshole.

[Reise]

Dude I don't care. Don't pay your taxes, get farked by the IRS, and enjoy your life of rebellion. I'm not in the mood to discuss the fairness of taxes, or whether you should be bound to a constitution by citizenship.

Cause: Challenge your thoughts
Effect: [Go **** yourself]
hehehe

I've written so much political shit on this forum you should know how I feel anyway. If you don't, then hell I'm not gonna waste my time typing it all over again.

[Epic.Win]

EDIT: What do you guys think of social security: Constitutional or not?

How else can the elderly US citizens support themselves? A high percentage of the country is living in poverty and could not afford to support their parents or grandparents on their income. Universal healthcare? Good idea. But what about rent/mortgage/insurance/food? Maybe there's a reasonable explaination for it that I haven't previously heard of.. but my understanding is that social security is for those who are retured and have it as their only income? I mean.. aren't you supposed to relax and enjoy whats left of life after you retire?

[Barotix]

What do you guys think of taxes in America, is the American gov't granted the ability , by the constitution, to in act an income tax on the general public. Should public school education be mandatory? Should taxes should be mandatory? Does the constitution even grant the gov't these powers? Is the Federal gov't getting to strong, and slowly ripping the states of their power? Is the supreme court being to lax, and letting to many unconstitutional acts slip by? What did you think of FDR's administration, Tyranny of a different form? What do you think of democratic socialism? Are Obama and Hilary Clinton socialist? Should education be put back into the hands of parents? Have we as citizens of the United states given the federal gov't to much power? What do you think of the LBJ administration, how about Bush's? Who is the best candidate for america, not the one with the best smile? Does the constitution grant the Executive branch the right to declare war? Is the legal system of the USA broken? Is socialism a modern neccesity in todays society and if so does the constitution even give it room to breath? Wouldn't socialized healthcare be unconstitutional? What about welfare? Has and is the constitution being twisted for hidden agendas? Is the General public of the United States Stupid? What does "United States" Mean to you? United in what way? Is this a democracy or a communist regime? Where does the democracy begin and the fascism stop? Is big brother watching us?

All questions that need to be asked and answered.

EDIT: What do you guys think of social security: Constitutional or not?

How else can the elderly US citizens support themselves? A high percentage of the country is living in poverty and could not afford to support their parents or grandparents on their income. Universal healthcare? Good idea. But what about rent/mortgage/insurance/food? Maybe there's a reasonable explaination for it that I haven't previously heard of.. but my understanding is that social security is for those who are retured and have it as their only income? I mean.. aren't you supposed to relax and enjoy whats left of life after you retire?

Yes, but what right does the gov't have to mandate me and my family to put tax money towards a cause i may not agree with. According to the constitution such taxation should be optional, is it being heeded? NO, FDR put in judges that agreed with his socialist reform, the end result being: A pandora's box was opened to all kinds of twisted ways of skewing the constitution.

Social security wasn't constitutional in 1888 and shouldn't have been in 1942, yet it passed. Now a chance to right such mistakes has arisen and you want to pass up on it? Surely the forefathers weren't high when they wrote the constitution. It was for the Good of the "United States" not for the general public, and unless there is a consensus among the states then such acts are unconstitutional. In order to test how constitutional the social security act is you must first interpret the term "United states" then scrutinize the constitution and go from there. Universal health care is socialism, not only that, but I shouldn't and neither should you as a citizen of the USA being mandated to pay such a tax.