Which build with force is the best?

[raphaell666]

Im coming back after being retired for some time, and I'm going to create a new force-user character, but I'm kinda undecided about which build to use. So, I would like to know what build with force is the best one in your opinion. The masteries I can handle myself, so I only want to know which build is the best.

If you are going to say that you dont like/that it sux or whatever, do me the favour of not losing your time posting here, please.

EDIT:
If it was ambiguous: I want to know which build with force is the best one. About using fire/light/ice with the force and weap masteries, I can handle myself. I only want to know if its better full str or hybrid str and which weap.

[BloodOwnzzz]

I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean... Do you mean what build with the mastery Force or what build and post the forces you should take?

[raphaell666]

With the FORCE mastery, the one that looks like water, that you can heal and use vital spot attacks. Sorry if it was ambiguous.

[BloodOwnzzz]

I personally find Weapon:Force:Stuff to be a lost cause because you won't be able to have an Imbue at your level when caps start to rise above 100, but Hybrid Bow with Force is probably the best build there. I've seen Full Str Glaive with Force do good too, might have been Hybrid I don't remember. Either way, you get debuffs with Bicheon so you won't need Force if you want a Bicheon character.

[raphaell666]

I personally find Weapon:Force:Stuff to be a lost cause because you won't be able to have an Imbue at your level when caps start to rise above 100, but Hybrid Bow with Force is probably the best build there. I've seen Full Str Glaive with Force do good too, might have been Hybrid I don't remember. Either way, you get debuffs with Bicheon so you won't need Force if you want a Bicheon character.

Well, im not worrying about next caps right now, so...
Bicheon give debuffs, you are right, but the chains take some time to use, and have only 20% chance of working, so I prefer to be able to heal and to use the vital spots with 80% chance, over having to use chains.

[San]

I personally find Weapon:Force:Stuff to be a lost cause because you won't be able to have an Imbue at your level when caps start to rise above 100, but Hybrid Bow with Force is probably the best build there. I've seen Full Str Glaive with Force do good too, might have been Hybrid I don't remember. Either way, you get debuffs with Bicheon so you won't need Force if you want a Bicheon character.

Well, im not worrying about next caps right now, so...
Bicheon give debuffs, you are right, but the chains take some time to use, and have only 20% chance of working, so I prefer to be able to heal and to use the vital spots with 80% chance, over having to use chains.

ya, but with the chains, its 20% with each hit, and i believe there is 5 hits
now this doesnt mean 100%, but there is a good chance that the opponent will be hit with the debuffs

anyways, i cant really help out on these builds, since i havent really seen any

[mahumps]

I say full str blader. Because str bladers gives the smallest damage, with the help of vital spot it will lessen the enemy def giving him more damage. And since str bladers tank best it won't die easily and have more chance in healing or resu some fallen comrades.

[raphaell666]

ya, but with the chains, its 20% with each hit, and i believe there is 5 hits
now this doesnt mean 100%, but there is a good chance that the opponent will be hit with the debuffs

anyways, i cant really help out on these builds, since i havent really seen any

Ok, but the skill description of the chain says:

Impotent 8 Level (Probability:20% 1Time/times, 30.0Second)
Bleed 8 Level (Probability:20% 1Time/times, 30.0Second)
Division 8 Level (Probability:20% 1Time/times, 30.0Second)
Succesive shots: 6 times

I think (I may be wrong) that the 1Time/times means that only one of the hits of the chain will have chances of causing these statuses. Am I wrong?

[JabbaWockeeZ]

I personally say Pure Str Bladder

Im not super experienced in SRO recently started. But I do know all the basics,builds,etc and I say a ton of hp + blocking + force skills are real good.

You can also get fire masteries since bladdes have low mag def

Well this is just my opinion

[raphaell666]

I personally say Pure Str Bladder
Im not super experienced in SRO recently started. But I do know all the basics,builds,etc and I say a ton of hp + blocking + force skills are real good.
You can also get fire masteries since bladdes have low mag def
Well this is just my opinion

I say full str blader. Because str bladers gives the smallest damage, with the help of vital spot it will lessen the enemy def giving him more damage. And since str bladers tank best it won't die easily and have more chance in healing or resu some fallen comrades.

I personally agree with you 2, although now I'm still a little bit undecided mainly about either going full str, or hybrid str...

[JabbaWockeeZ]

Go for Pure Str. Hybrid will be worst IMO because Pure Str has a ton of hp and you won't need many HP pots all you need are MP pots since you can heal with force.

Also you shouldn't need any INT because you won't be casting nukes. You only need INT for weapon trees, buffs, force tree, and maybe an imbue

Hope this helps

[raphaell666]

Go for Pure Str. Hybrid will be worst IMO because Pure Str has a ton of hp and you won't need many HP pots all you need are MP pots since you can heal with force.

Also you shouldn't need any INT because you won't be casting nukes. You only need INT for weapon trees, buffs, force tree, and maybe an imbue

Hope this helps

Yeah, thanks for everything. But I didnt understand this part of what you said:
"Also you shouldn't need any INT because you won't be casting nukes. You only need INT for weapon trees, buffs, force tree, and maybe an imbue"
You said I wont be needing any int, but then you said that int is used for almost everything... And I dont think that int is much used in weapon trees, as they are physical damage based attacks.

[JabbaWockeeZ]

Go for Pure Str. Hybrid will be worst IMO because Pure Str has a ton of hp and you won't need many HP pots all you need are MP pots since you can heal with force.

Also you shouldn't need any INT because you won't be casting nukes. You only need INT for weapon trees, buffs, force tree, and maybe an imbue

Hope this helps

Yeah, thanks for everything. But I didnt understand this part of what you said:
"Also you shouldn't need any INT because you won't be casting nukes. You only need INT for weapon trees, buffs, force tree, and maybe an imbue"
You said I wont be needing any int, but then you said that int is used for almost everything... And I dont think that int is much used in weapon trees, as they are physical damage based attacks.

Sorry was typing it on my psp XD couldn't notice anything. I mean you shouldn't put skills in INT because INT basically increases your mp and you won't need much mp because you won't be casting nukes. Only will be using mp for buffs and an imbue basically

[Disconn3cted]

ya, but with the chains, its 20% with each hit, and i believe there is 5 hits
now this doesnt mean 100%, but there is a good chance that the opponent will be hit with the debuffs

anyways, i cant really help out on these builds, since i havent really seen any

Ok, but the skill description of the chain says:

Impotent 8 Level (Probability:20% 1Time/times, 30.0Second)
Bleed 8 Level (Probability:20% 1Time/times, 30.0Second)
Division 8 Level (Probability:20% 1Time/times, 30.0Second)
Succesive shots: 6 times

I think (I may be wrong) that the 1Time/times means that only one of the hits of the chain will have chances of causing these statuses. Am I wrong?

you are correct

1st hit is bleed
3rd hit is impotent
5th hit is division

[noobert mclagg]

First off welcome back . Imo I think that hybrid bow with force is the best even though u cant tank as much a will hav range, kb, and stun. Also, hybrid bow does more damage on regular hits then pure str so force debuffs will raise ur damage even more and push ur crit to around 10k, around the same crit as a pure str bow. This is the build im gunna do after the 90 cap comes out, 90 pach/90light/90force/30ice hybrid bow.

[raphaell666]

First off welcome back . Imo I think that hybrid bow with force is the best even though u cant tank as much a will hav range, kb, and stun. Also, hybrid bow does more damage on regular hits then pure str so force debuffs will raise ur damage even more and push ur crit to around 10k, around the same crit as a pure str bow. This is the build im gunna do after the 90 cap comes out, 90 pach/90light/90force/30ice hybrid bow.

Thanks a lot man, good to see you again . Well, I have been thinking a lot about this and I was going to do that same build you mentioned, in fact, I just had the idea of it right before looking this forum O.o but instead of pach I would use bich, and I was thinking about making the mag balance a lil bit high. About the hybrid str+force = full str crit, I think you are wrong. An hybrid str with force will do more damage even criting than an full str, because force has skills that reduce both mag and phys defense of your enemy, so the hybrid will do a lot more damage than normal(not sure, may be wrong).

[noobert mclagg]

It is really hard to say, in the vids and pvps I have seen hybrid bow+force crit around 10k and pure str crit around 11k, but It is almost imposible to tell without each of the bows being NPC cause there are to many variable that could raise damage.