Cleric who doesn't do their job in party

[Kohl]

It's annoying being cleric in a chinese pt. They ALL demand str and int, and refuse to help out when im being raped by pt mobs. I can't switch to wiz without being spammed for buffs by all of them It's easier to just stick with a good all euro pt or chinese that know how to play with euros =x

[pr0klobster]

Now I know why most doesn't like cleric anymore when partying 8 man. As you know, most cleric are also a wizard. So I haven't grind for over 2 months now and finally went back to Generals to start collecting SP preparing for the 90 caps to come. As I was grinding, one my friend was pissed off that these two clerics just do one buff every 30 minutes or sometime not at all, stand there and look pretty. I mean, c'mon. Just give us the body bless which is STR and the soul bless which is INT, switch to your whatever weapon you attack with using wizard or whatever and help kill mobs. You are a euro and you do HIGH damage with these party mobs. Just because you are cleric doesnt mean you just sit there and leech. While I'm here sweating and working my fingers pressing 1234 etc.

Pure int clerics don't have a lot of HP. What, you want us to die instead of you? And hey, if you don't like the +22 int and +20 str (which adds up pretty quick to 300-400 extra HP/MP) I only have 4 to give out.

Clerics should only attack as a complete last resort. If I'm in a party, I'm watching people's HP all the time and keeping it as close to max as possible and renewing buffs as they expire. No RD if we're fighting a higher-level monster, it tends to aggro, so I'm throwing Healing Cycle every 16 seconds on someone, with the occasional heal thrown in. When a giant party spawns, then yes, we can use everyone to attack it and I sure do, as long as I've got Bless on

You should really try playing a cleric. If you're in light armor and wielding a cleric rod, the first thing that happens when you join a party is a chorus of "BUFF ME PLZ" from almost everyone who isn't AFK. Then, when people die from their own ignorance (sure, run out of healing range!) and you can't get to them right away because you're dealing with the monsters they left behind, you get pm'd "RESSSSS" for the next 5 minutes. I mean, really. I like to help people, but if you think clerics are unimportant, try playing in a Euro party without one, not even a sub.

[Shortcut]

A good cleric makes the Euro party. You CAN NOT grind 10 lvls higher with out a good blanced party but for Euro Int chars, without a good cleric you might as well solo.

But saying that they are realy not nesseary in a China party, you guys pot so fast, before I can heal you have repotted. And since you dont need a cleric to heal so you can grind, you tend to not worry about keeping them alive

Every China party I have tried to cleric in ended in me dead and pissed. They run off, dont work together, dont know the restrictions on my skills so harrass me constantly for buffs I cant give yet, ect. But I mean that is the way China char are suppposed to be played (solo) so now i just don't accept the invite.

I wouls say just don't invite clerics into your parties or if you do tell them you expect them to kill. They will either do it or leave.

[WrathShielder]

As a Wizard, I could care less as to if I get buffed in an 8 man party, put it where it helps the most (like on a stronger Wizard than me and the tanks)as long as I am kept healed. The role I take beside dealing damage is to watch the clerics and bards. If I am fighting a group of mobs, I may be facing them in game but I am mouse watching behind me and around the cleric/bards. If all the tanks are busy and the cleric aggros a mob, I target and fire, better to pull the mob on me and I die than to have the cleric die. I usually freeze, kb, freeze, stun, fear the mob and hopefully by then tanks arrive(and ours usually do) but if not, I will tank as long as I can and the cleric usually recognizes I just aggro'd the mob going for him/her and watches me closely healing me until the tanks arrive or taunt him off me. They are absolutely vital to the success of a party and Ninjitsu has some goooooood clerics.

Oh BTW shorty aren't you 4x now ....change you signature

[Astra]

Pure int clerics don't have a lot of HP. What, you want us to die instead of you? And hey, if you don't like the +22 int and +20 str (which adds up pretty quick to 300-400 extra HP/MP) I only have 4 to give out.

Clerics should only attack as a complete last resort. If I'm in a party, I'm watching people's HP all the time and keeping it as close to max as possible and renewing buffs as they expire. No RD if we're fighting a higher-level monster, it tends to aggro, so I'm throwing Healing Cycle every 16 seconds on someone, with the occasional heal thrown in. When a giant party spawns, then yes, we can use everyone to attack it and I sure do, as long as I've got Bless on

Cleric always gets Fence and Quota, ALWAYS. That's why the party needs 2 tanks (euro), one for lure, the other for keeping an eye on the ints.

Cleric always uses Recovery Division, ALWAYS. Cleric always gets Protect Buff, so the whole aggro goes to the tank who buffed the cleric with Protect.

Problems solved.

[Nodame]

str and int blessings can stack if they are different lvls i think so you can almost get 100+ int and str

but those clerics should at least give recovery divsion

recovery division isn't necessarily a good thing for a cleric to cast... if your party has no warriors, each time a member of your party gets healed by recovery division, the aggro shifts towards the cleric...

so they end up killing themselves...

chances are, if they are wizards and have a cleric sub, they will attack if someone else can res them, or if you have a warrior that can actually taunt the mobs away from the wizard damage.... keep in mind they want to survive as well.

[SuperTanker]

Pure int clerics don't have a lot of HP. What, you want us to die instead of you? And hey, if you don't like the +22 int and +20 str (which adds up pretty quick to 300-400 extra HP/MP) I only have 4 to give out.

Clerics should only attack as a complete last resort. If I'm in a party, I'm watching people's HP all the time and keeping it as close to max as possible and renewing buffs as they expire. No RD if we're fighting a higher-level monster, it tends to aggro, so I'm throwing Healing Cycle every 16 seconds on someone, with the occasional heal thrown in. When a giant party spawns, then yes, we can use everyone to attack it and I sure do, as long as I've got Bless on

Cleric always gets Fence and Quota, ALWAYS. That's why the party needs 2 tanks (euro), one for lure, the other for keeping an eye on the ints.

Cleric always uses Recovery Division, ALWAYS. Cleric always gets Protect Buff, so the whole aggro goes to the tank who buffed the cleric with Protect.

Problems solved.

u know not all warriors are mature ppl who know how to play the game. i was in a party today (with my warlock/cleric), i was being the cleric i died 4 time -.-. good thing one of tose warriors had cleric sub. the stupid dont even use pain quota. ever. i mean never. i mean never ever .

[Dian Jie]

As a Wizard, I could care less as to if I get buffed in an 8 man party, put it where it helps the most (like on a stronger Wizard than me and the tanks)as long as I am kept healed. The role I take beside dealing damage is to watch the clerics and bards. If I am fighting a group of mobs, I may be facing them in game but I am mouse watching behind me and around the cleric/bards. If all the tanks are busy and the cleric aggros a mob, I target and fire, better to pull the mob on me and I die than to have the cleric die. I usually freeze, kb, freeze, stun, fear the mob and hopefully by then tanks arrive(and ours usually do) but if not, I will tank as long as I can and the cleric usually recognizes I just aggro'd the mob going for him/her and watches me closely healing me until the tanks arrive or taunt him off me. They are absolutely vital to the success of a party and Ninjitsu has some goooooood clerics.

Oh BTW shorty aren't you 4x now ....change you signature

And we wonder why your grant name is Marytr.

[Airbeat]

This is SO true, i remember when i grinded my ass of at Generals, while Clerics was standing there giving a few buffs every 20 minute..
That really sucked, i used to leave those partys and grind on my own

[pr0klobster]

Pure int clerics don't have a lot of HP. What, you want us to die instead of you? And hey, if you don't like the +22 int and +20 str (which adds up pretty quick to 300-400 extra HP/MP) I only have 4 to give out.

Clerics should only attack as a complete last resort. If I'm in a party, I'm watching people's HP all the time and keeping it as close to max as possible and renewing buffs as they expire. No RD if we're fighting a higher-level monster, it tends to aggro, so I'm throwing Healing Cycle every 16 seconds on someone, with the occasional heal thrown in. When a giant party spawns, then yes, we can use everyone to attack it and I sure do, as long as I've got Bless on

Cleric always gets Fence and Quota, ALWAYS. That's why the party needs 2 tanks (euro), one for lure, the other for keeping an eye on the ints.

Cleric always uses Recovery Division, ALWAYS. Cleric always gets Protect Buff, so the whole aggro goes to the tank who buffed the cleric with Protect.

Problems solved.

In our guild we have one warrior, several archers, a higher-level rogue, a glaiver, and the rest seem to be int's or Chinese. The warrior isn't on much. See my problem? Yes, in a good party, Fence and Quota are used, and I still haven't found one that I join that knows how to do that. When I'm out with the archers if they can keep aggro, yes, I use RD.

If I don't party with my guild, I'm almost guaranteeing one death per night and frustration because not everyone knows how to play a Euro, and partying with Chinese characters is annoying as they tend to spread out (soloing is their deal, after all).

Your statements are correct, I just can't play that way on our server. I have a 1h warrior/cleric on Venus, but since my guild is on Olympus, I can't get on to play him often.

Last night I had the same old server traffic problem on Olympus, so I managed to play for half an hour on Venus. Yeah, that bot ban helped somewhat, but it's a finger stuck in the dam with new leaks popping up.

Ah well, hope springs eternal.

[Thisisaname]

Pure int clerics don't have a lot of HP. What, you want us to die instead of you? And hey, if you don't like the +22 int and +20 str (which adds up pretty quick to 300-400 extra HP/MP) I only have 4 to give out.

Clerics should only attack as a complete last resort. If I'm in a party, I'm watching people's HP all the time and keeping it as close to max as possible and renewing buffs as they expire. No RD if we're fighting a higher-level monster, it tends to aggro, so I'm throwing Healing Cycle every 16 seconds on someone, with the occasional heal thrown in. When a giant party spawns, then yes, we can use everyone to attack it and I sure do, as long as I've got Bless on

Cleric always gets Fence and Quota, ALWAYS. That's why the party needs 2 tanks (euro), one for lure, the other for keeping an eye on the ints.

Cleric always uses Recovery Division, ALWAYS. Cleric always gets Protect Buff, so the whole aggro goes to the tank who buffed the cleric with Protect.

Problems solved.

That is if you are partying warriors that actually have brain. I can't count the parties I've seen with warriors fencing each other while I run around healing and pray for mobs to die before they hit me

[Rush4Life]

Clerics are supposed to make it possible to grind on mobs where you could never grind alone, a good (complete) euro party can grind on mobs 9lvls higher than them without problem, but there are too many ignorant people on iSRO

Pure int clerics don't have a lot of HP. What, you want us to die instead of you? And hey, if you don't like the +22 int and +20 str (which adds up pretty quick to 300-400 extra HP/MP) I only have 4 to give out.

Clerics should only attack as a complete last resort. If I'm in a party, I'm watching people's HP all the time and keeping it as close to max as possible and renewing buffs as they expire. No RD if we're fighting a higher-level monster, it tends to aggro, so I'm throwing Healing Cycle every 16 seconds on someone, with the occasional heal thrown in. When a giant party spawns, then yes, we can use everyone to attack it and I sure do, as long as I've got Bless on

Cleric always gets Fence and Quota, ALWAYS. That's why the party needs 2 tanks (euro), one for lure, the other for keeping an eye on the ints.

Cleric always uses Recovery Division, ALWAYS. Cleric always gets Protect Buff, so the whole aggro goes to the tank who buffed the cleric with Protect.

Problems solved.

That is if you are partying warriors that actually have brain. I can't count the parties I've seen with warriors fencing each other while I run around healing and pray for mobs to die before they hit me

That is why I always cast those skills on the weakest in the party (wizards and clerics), when I play warrior.... when I play with my xbow, it's easy, crossbow extreme and hit (or crit) that f****er xD

[ThisIsAvalon]

[quote="SuperTanker]u know not all warriors are mature ppl who know how to play the game. i was in a party today (with my warlock/cleric), i was being the cleric i died 4 time -.-. good thing one of tose warriors had cleric sub. the stupid dont even use pain quota. ever. i mean never. i mean never ever .[/quote]

Simple solution = kick the dumasses, add competent people.

[Astra]

That is if you are partying warriors that actually have brain. I can't count the parties I've seen with warriors fencing each other while I run around healing and pray for mobs to die before they hit me

This sounds like the tanks are gays.

Solution:

Simple solution = kick the dumasses, add competent people.

And preffer to add euro tanks. Aggro FTW.

[IreMoon]

Chinese players do have a clue for the most part in Generals parties I have been in. We may not concentrate the whole party on one mob but usually we are not all taking on a party mob solo. I also make it a point to keep an eye on the cleric if he is doing something other than just standing buffing every 30 min.

My wizard which is lvl 69 is in niya guard parties would like to do snipers in a share but those parties are rare and usually don't have a cleric. Any case I still keep an eye on the cleric they are vital for me to be able to grind effectively using AOE attacks course if the cleric dies I am usually not too far behind. We are in parties with mostly Chinese and most will protect cleric a warrior in the party will give buffs to the cleric and sometimes me not feeling the love there. Takes time for people to adapt but it is happening.