What will happen if they ban player botters...

[ColourBlind]

If they ban player bots over gold bots then jm are fools

yeah your right. the npc's will buy gold and the gold bots wont quit

[NuclearSilo]

Consider botter will charge back. BUT they will COME BACK because they are too addicted and love this game!

I don't believe that. Wouldn't those that handgrind for hours be addicted? and also, if they keep buying bots, silk etc and then do that every time they get banned and have to start over, that's a lot of money wasted, I don't htink they'd keep doing that.

So u want to say botters are invincible now, and there is no way to stop them? We just have to sit here and see the number of bots increase? Or u have better idea to stop them?

[nightbloom]

Botters, so egotistical and self centered they think JM cant live without their chump change?

HA HA HA HA HA

Silly botters, tricks are for kids. Legits spend more money on this game than botters do. Botters steal the money that is rightfully JMs and put in the hands of thieves like bot369 and sup-gold.

I wonder how many fortresses will be lost because of this? LOLOLOL

[Super8]

Botters, so egotistical and self centered they think JM cant live without their chump change?

HA HA HA HA HA

Silly botters, tricks are for kids. Legits spend more money on this game than botters do. Botters steal the money that is rightfully JMs and put in the hands of thieves like bot369 and sup-gold.

I wonder how many fortresses will be lost because of this? LOLOLOL

You're pretty egotistical yourself if I may say so.

I don't know the exact condition of venus, maybe overall legits do spend more on silk, but it is not true for ANY other server.
Just because it takes a legit longer to cap, the sheer number of player bots buying premiums overwhelms that of the legits.

Go on oasis in takla. See how many bots there are with premium on their name, then count the number of legits with a premium.... I promise you that joymax will lose money if the silk-buying player bots are banned.

[TOloseGT]

wait wait, joymax knows they'll lose money yet they're still banning bots? omg, they must be stupid!

-.-

lets wait for the bot list before coming to conclusions

[NuclearSilo]

LOL!
Only the free bot users probably don't buy silk, the ones who pay to use a bot definitely do buy silk.
Joymax's main income is from player bots.
'Legits' make up maybe 5-10% of their income I would estimate.
They honestly don't give a shit about someone botting in the game. They are a company, they care about money. If they are making good money they won't do anything to change that. (which they are)
This war on bots statement they recently made is just to keep up some type of 'image', they'll probably ban a few botters who don't buy silk. Most of it will be goldbots who will be back the next day, though.

Give me a break. Just ask a random botter and a legit in your server (who buy silk) who buy more silk, from the beginning when they start to play the game?
Tell me a reason why botter needs to buy silk then? They play 24/7, 10x faster than normal player, why do they need silk? a ticket that works just for 3 hours a day?
Among the bots who pay for the bot and buy silk like u say, half of them use cracked bot and dont buy silk because with some hack program they can run 40 clients so they have 40 more chance to login so they dont need PT.

[Timujin]

Well, it's simple, do you remember the last massive bot ban that JM did? What did it chaged? Only one thing, that from that moment, it was even more crowed of gold bots then before.... It's all about banning bots that don't buy silk and empty acc that they make with names like asdfg and all that... I have no hope of getting this game clean again and I don't think I'm the only one.

[Hearsay]

Give me a break. Just ask a random botter and a legit in your server (who buy silk) who buy more silk, from the beginning when they start to play the game?
Tell me a reason why botter needs to buy silk then? They play 24/7, 10x faster than normal player, why do they need silk? a ticket that works just for 3 hours a day?
Among the bots who pay for the bot and buy silk like u say, half of them use cracked bot and dont buy silk because with some hack program they can run 40 clients so they have 40 more chance to login so they dont need PT.

Actually handgrinding is faster than botting, it's just that humans can't play 24/7.

Also a botter needs silk for the exact same reason why they're botting: To get high lvl quicker, to farm sp faster and in some cases to buy premuims to ensure that they can log on and use their bot.

Why would a person bot if they're willing to take this game at his/her own pace?

[nightbloom]

Why would a person bot if they're willing to take this game at his/her own pace?

Lazy? Stupid? Cheap? Retarded? Fingers broken? Lack of hand eye coordination? Too busy bestowing daily oral stimulation to the sexual reproductive organs of a member of the subfamily Bovinae?

Who knows? lol

[NuclearSilo]

Actually handgrinding is faster than botting, it's just that humans can't play 24/7.

Also a botter needs silk for the exact same reason why they're botting: To get high lvl quicker, to farm sp faster and in some cases to buy premuims to ensure that they can log on and use their bot.

Why would a person bot if they're willing to take this game at his/her own pace?

Oh really? Ask everyone in this forum how long did it take to achieve their char to lvl 80? 1 year?
Then ask a bot he answers 2 months.

Your argument is equivalent to: Once they are level 80 and full farm, they dont need silk anymore because they dont need to login to ensure their bot.

A bot needs 2 months for full farmed spends 250 silk a month, and a legit who spends constantly 250 silk a month for the same purpose (lvl up fast) for 12 months. Which spend more silk?

[MrBow]

Mmmmm i guess alot of people would be crying

[BalkanFanaticS]

The conspiracy theories and the thought that JM would make more money from player bots than legit players if all bots were banned is funny. lol

thats true my friend , they would be better off if they did that , but as u have noticed by now JoyWax isnt capable of keeping clean its own servers , so u can forget that lol


lol @ who spends most mony arguements ...
botter population is around 80-90% on most servers , u guys dont wanna tell me that legits buy 10premiums a month each ? (not counting the gold bots now as they arent the subject of the discussion)

[bluetoN]

Wow, why all the debating?? This is Stupid

It's so obvious SRO, isnt going to ban Player bots.. Im a realist i dont live in a happy cloud lollipop world ok boys & girls?

Most servers (from my exp in playing couple servers)

Gold Bots = 50%

Players Bots = 40%

Legits = 10% (or maybe less)

Why would JoyMax care about Isro, yes they make profit, but not as much as KSRO or CSRO or even JSRO, you do realize SRO isnt as mainstream here in the states as it is in the Asia? If they ban player botters = Chargeback = meaning losing countless $$$ = Alot of People giving up = game dies.

Silkroad Online isnt a huge game it seems to be cause of the botters

What they should do is make lvling up more easier like WoW.

[Casey613]

Why would a person bot if they're willing to take this game at his/her own pace?

Lazy? Stupid? Cheap? Retarded? Fingers broken? Lack of hand eye coordination? Too busy bestowing daily oral stimulation to the sexual reproductive organs of a member of the subfamily Bovinae?

Who knows? lol

Yes.. still swearing.

<<Edited flaming out - MrBow>>

For you there are no grey areas, yet in some cases there are.

[Waisha]

bots are stupid dumbshits

The irony.

[JacksColon]

My thing is:

Since JM changed their Terms of Service (TOS) it doesn't even include anything about bots:

Site or commercial advertising

The sale of items and accounts for real money/goods, other game account/item sale, illegal joint account sharing

False reporting of unwholesome behavior

Character/guild names that violate policy

Spreading of rumors and/ or unconfirmed reports related to game or service

Bug exploitation (copying of items and etc.)


AND these punishments have a 3 strikes and your out policy it seems. I think people are falsely getting their hopes up

[JacksColon]

AND:

Article 1 (Service Agreement)

Service agreement shall be effective upon user's request through the Web site and Company's approval.

1. Service agreement shall be effective upon Company's approval of user's request.

2. Service agreement shall be separately executed per each ID made by User

3. User's character ID is tied to the user directly.

4. If the user is an establishment, the name of the establishment must be tied to its IP.

5. Service agreement shall commence with the joining process established by Company and terminate with its secession. If the user registers inaccurate information when he joins as a member, the Company can restrict his use even though the user's subscription was voluntary. If user becomes involved in an activity that is forbidden by Company, Company can classify him as an illegal user and restrain and block him during a given period in order to prevent harm to other users.

Article 2 (Approval of Use Request)

1. Company may approve or disapprove and cancel such approval or agreement at Company's discretion according to the terms and conditions set out below.
① User's registered name is not a real name
② Illegal use of someone else's name (include lineal ascendants/descendants)
③ Omissions and/or misstatement on user application
④ Disapproval resulting from other misconduct of the User
⑤ Misconduct that is offensive to public peace, order, and/or morals
⑥ Activity deemed as having ad adverse effect on Company's services
⑦ Failure to fulfill any terms and conditions of the Agreement requested by the Company
⑧ Payment of the service fee through the use of others' credit card, wired/wireless phone, or bank account without permission

2. Company may limit approval for use requests at its discretion in the presence of any of the conditions below
① When it is difficult to service normally because of service equipment error or overcrowded service use
② When internet service provider stops the service
③ When the Company cannot approve because of technical problem and/or other reasons
④ When problems relating to service or problems regarding payment options occur

Article 3 (Termination of Use)

1. A User who fulfills the conditions below will be considered as a User who has terminated use. The Company can modify and delete his/her account information.
① An account with pre-level 10 characters that has not logged into the game for a period of 6 months, and an account that is not using premium service
② An account that has not been logged in to the game for the past 1 year, and an account that is not using premium service

Article 4 (Service Fee)

1. Standard service other than the premium service is free, and there are no restrictions in playing the game even if the premium service is not used.

2. Apart from this Agreement, Users must agree to the user agreement of game items in order to perform any transactions of the game items

3. Apart from this Agreement, it is the users' responsibility to check the policy of using game items and cash policy in the user agreement of game items, and the Company will not be held responsible for problems that occur from not having read the user agreement of game item.

4. All Fees and Charges are non-refundable.

5. You have complete responsibility for the fee payments you make, thus it is your responsibility to manage your financial accounts in order to prevent fraud.

[nightbloom]

Why would a person bot if they're willing to take this game at his/her own pace?

Lazy? Stupid? Cheap? Retarded? Fingers broken? Lack of hand eye coordination? Too busy bestowing daily oral stimulation to the sexual reproductive organs of a member of the subfamily Bovinae?

Who knows? lol

Yes.. still swearing.



You think you're oh so righteously, you're either dumbasses or hypocrital little jerks. For you there are no grey areas, yet in some cases there are.

I chose the avatar I have for people just like you Casey.

[Fly]

2. Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities.

joymax never took botting out of the user agreement. you just forgot how to read english properly. its ok, having ur face stuffed up botters ass has that effect on alot of people.

[Vandango]

O im going to fun in the morning
* Finnaly somin to do while sitting in that boring libary

[BalkanFanaticS]

Lazy? Stupid? Cheap? Retarded? Fingers broken? Lack of hand eye coordination? Too busy bestowing daily oral stimulation to the sexual reproductive organs of a member of the subfamily Bovinae?

Who knows? lol

Yes.. still swearing.



<<Edited flaming out - MrBow>>. For you there are no grey areas, yet in some cases there are.

im with casey on this one

[JacksColon]

2. Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities.

joymax never took botting out of the user agreement. you just forgot how to read english properly. its ok, having ur face stuffed up botters ass has that effect on alot of people.

<<Flaming removed - MrBow>>
JM even acknowledged the change in TOS FFS. besides, no where in there does it define "illegal" programs. They have watered down their TOS

[Fly]

2. Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities.

joymax never took botting out of the user agreement. you just forgot how to read english properly. its ok, having ur face stuffed up botters ass has that effect on alot of people.

<<Flaming removed - MrBow>>
JM even acknowledged the change in TOS FFS. besides, no where in there does it define "illegal" programs. They have watered down their TOS

awww, did i hurt your feelings?

lets define "illegal":

In order to promote clean gaming environment, we ask our users not to use bots, as using bots will block the user's account permanently.

kthxbai.

with your bot friends gone, whos ass will you stick ur nose up next? sad day for you indeed.

[nightbloom]

Wanna use my avatar Fly?

[JacksColon]

joymax never took botting out of the user agreement. you just forgot how to read english properly. its ok, having ur face stuffed up botters ass has that effect on alot of people.

JM even acknowledged the change in TOS FFS. besides, no where in there does it define "illegal" programs. They have watered down their TOS

awww, did i hurt your feelings?

lets define "illegal":

In order to promote clean gaming environment, we ask our users not to use bots, as using bots will block the user's account permanently.

kthxbai.

with your bot friends gone, whos ass will you stick ur nose up next? sad day for you indeed.[/quote]

Wow, you really are as dumb as you sound. You can quote from their posts all you want, but those are not legally binding agreements, unlike the user agreements and TOS..In which there is no mention of a bot program or anything resembling a definition of what "illegal" means. this was done on purpose you Farking idiot, so that they cannot be legally held responsible for being in cahoots with bot/gold companies. They will post a BS bot ban list, and you know it. If you're stupid enough to think this will be substantive list, then you should be banned for being a complete shmuck.

[non ego man]

Users found to be using...illegal programs may...have their account deleted.

JM even acknowledged the change in TOS FFS. besides, no where in there does it define "illegal" programs.

Wait. So you're saying that JM's announced bot ban is unauthorized because their TOS now allows botting? Does this seem upside down to anyone else?

[loveisintheair]

Can you scale down on the insults please?

Once the bot ban is in effect, go ahead and cruise around the high level grinding spots (Takla) on your server and see how many player botters are left. I am 99% certain, that not many will be gone.

[diddlez]

...and now people starts b*tching about bans.

OT: Will be nice when the servers are "Easy" or "Populated" everytime. LOL. It's been a long time since the last ban.

So, yeah JM is doing something for us.

It's fine if they only ban goldbots since that will reduce the server traffic and new players would start on the servers.

[nightbloom]

Users found to be using...illegal programs may...have their account deleted.

JM even acknowledged the change in TOS FFS. besides, no where in there does it define "illegal" programs.

Wait. So you're saying that JM's announced bot ban is unauthorized because their TOS now allows botting? Does this seem upside down to anyone else?

LOGIC? ARE YOU CRAZY?

There is no room for logic and common sense in this argument! Sheesh, get with the program NEM....

[Fly]

Wait. So you're saying that JM's announced bot ban is unauthorized because their TOS now allows botting? Does this seem upside down to anyone else?

in his mind:

joymax is an evil corp who is paid by gold bots. by allowing gold bots to run free on the silkroad, joymax makes lots of money. they then use this money to pay large hairy men to ass rape legits on all servers. one of these men is the guy who shot kennedy. yes, thats right! the assasination of kennedy was needed in order for joymax to grow strong enough to change there ToS to allow bots. you see, kennedy was a legit who hated gold bots! GRRRR /insert mean face . now that kennedy is out of the way, only chuck noris with the help of his sidekick jacki chan can save the day. but wait! that bastard jacki chan is a dubble agent who really works for joymax and is sleeping with chucks wife! THAT BASTARD!

like sand thru the hourglass, so are the days of our lives....

<<Flaming removed - MrBow>>