Warrior character advise, your opinion wanted

[ShadowSpell]

right now I started plvling a warrior character for myself (yes 2 computers) im making him a warrior but cant decide if I should go 1- handed or 2 handed sword, and if I should make warlock or cleric my sub. from what ive seen cleric helps extremely for a 2 handed and warlock with 1 handed, anyone have once of these builds?

[LordThurisaz]

2handed cleric ftw...

[Dian Jie]

1handed warlock ftw..

[Alterran]

and please next time post this is characters and skills

[Affliction]

In my opinion you should use both hands if you decide to make a warrior...

[Grimm-.-]

Both builds are real awesome imo.
But i went 2h/cleric because it is usually the quicker kill.

[the_wicked]

if you go 1H warlock....beware chinese firewall.

anyway, i say go with both weps. you dont really need a sub if you know what you're doing. shield trash them till they get dull then sprint assault till you get a stun, then quick switch and maddenin, if you crit its over.

cleric is better imo, you can res anyone and even leaving it at 60 you get 505 phys and 808 extra mag from bless, and like 879 recovery from division over time. and holy word prevents low level ice imbues from raping you.

[ShadowSpell]

thanks guys for the advise, I'm thinking I will do both 1 and 2 handed with warlock at a sub

BTW Alterran, it was clear what my question was if you dont want to read this and think it should be in the character skills section, THEN DONT READ THIS, noone forced you to, and most people dont read character skills section anyways.

[Barotix]

if you go 1H warlock....beware chinese firewall.

anyway, i say go with both weps. you dont really need a sub if you know what you're doing. shield trash them till they get dull then sprint assault till you get a stun, then quick switch and maddenin, if you crit its over.

cleric is better imo, you can res anyone and even leaving it at 60 you get 505 phys and 808 extra mag from bless, and like 879 recovery from division over time. and holy word prevents low level ice imbues from raping you.

Reason why you need all weapons:
Shield trash until you get Dull, switch to dual axe to get stun and bleed, then switch to 2h to KD [turn rising?], and finnaly switch back to Dual Axe to deal massive dmg.

Stun [50%inc] Dull [50% inc] Bleed [50% inc + its def reduce] and KD [25%?] 175% inc of original dmg. Yeah warriors are the sex ^_-

PS: i hate the server traffic on Venus.

EDIT: omg the coolest build would be a Warlock/Dual Axe warrior >.> *Ponders*

[ShadowSpell]

never though about dual axes, I realy havent seen any high lvls use them, hows the damage with them compared to the 2 handed sword?

[Barotix]

never though about dual axes, I realy havent seen any high lvls use them, hows the damage with them compared to the 2 handed sword?

Their dmg is on par with one hand warrior when there are no 'debuffs'. Add debuffs and they have the potential to outdmg the 2h warrior. *goes back to ponder*

[ShadowSpell]

never though about dual axes, I realy havent seen any high lvls use them, hows the damage with them compared to the 2 handed sword?

Their dmg is on par with one hand warrior when there are no 'debuffs'. Add debuffs and they have the potential to outdmg the 2h warrior. *goes back to ponder*

but now if I debuff them with warlock, wouldnt 2h be the best for the hardest hits? (unless tanking then 1h), i'm pretty set on warlock as a sub since I've had cleric before on my wizard and want to try out warlock.

[Barotix]

never though about dual axes, I realy havent seen any high lvls use them, hows the damage with them compared to the 2 handed sword?

Their dmg is on par with one hand warrior when there are no 'debuffs'. Add debuffs and they have the potential to outdmg the 2h warrior. *goes back to ponder*

but now if I debuff them with warlock, wouldnt 2h be the best for the hardest hits? (unless tanking then 1h), i'm pretty set on warlock as a sub since I've had cleric before on my wizard and want to try out warlock.

No because dual axe gets some very nice bonuses from atking opponents with Stun Bleed and Dull + the normal effect from bleed [lower defense] + other debuffs = more dmg.

[the_wicked]

True. But it is a pain to farm for 3 weps and a subclass. I find that i can generally one shot anyone my level with a maddening crit. I ust use sprint assault for the stun.

[ShadowSpell]

True. But it is a pain to farm for 3 weps and a subclass. I find that i can generally one shot anyone my level with a maddening crit. I ust use sprint assault for the stun.

yeah i could imagine, as of right now my subclass will be warlock, I have decided on 1h sword (tanking and shield bash)now trying to decide between 2h or axes.

1 question I have is there is a warrior that when ever I hit him with my wizard (18k hit) no matter if he is even fighting someone else he immedialty sprint assualts me and usually gets stun then kills me, is it a warrior skill? or us he using some kind of hack or have a macro set? reason it makes me wonder is the other warriors I have fought dont do that.

[IceCrash]

Yep barotix

Your giving out too many secrets lol, let ppl think for themselves
Still, there aint much problem in saying that tho, is like when v finally made movies of warrior/warlock.
Everybody pling warrior/warlocks but there was no good player with one, so they all sucked lolz.
Same with warrior, ppl that say a warrior cant do damage = Epic fail.
A warrior can outdamage a wizard. You might say LOLZ JOO KIDDING MEH.
Ask v.

About farming, it wouldn't be that pain, since u dont need every single passive.

[IguanaRampage]

I say go 2h. The dmg from daredevil after sleeping them is sexy. Also, the knockdown will add damage to your cunning stab. This is what I would do anyway.

Good luck with your build

[Nantosh]

if you go 1H warlock....beware chinese firewall.

anyway, i say go with both weps. you dont really need a sub if you know what you're doing. shield trash them till they get dull then sprint assault till you get a stun, then quick switch and maddenin, if you crit its over.

cleric is better imo, you can res anyone and even leaving it at 60 you get 505 phys and 808 extra mag from bless, and like 879 recovery from division over time. and holy word prevents low level ice imbues from raping you.

Reason why you need all weapons:
Shield trash until you get Dull, switch to dual axe to get stun and bleed, then switch to 2h to KD [turn rising?], and finnaly switch back to Dual Axe to deal massive dmg.

Stun [50%inc] Dull [50% inc] Bleed [50% inc + its def reduce] and KD [25%?] 175% inc of original dmg. Yeah warriors are the sex ^_-

PS: i hate the server traffic on Venus.

EDIT: omg the coolest build would be a Warlock/Dual Axe warrior >.> *Ponders*

Hope so, cause I'm making a Dual Axe now and having so much fun with it ^ ^

[the_wicked]

True. But it is a pain to farm for 3 weps and a subclass. I find that i can generally one shot anyone my level with a maddening crit. I ust use sprint assault for the stun.

yeah i could imagine, as of right now my subclass will be warlock, I have decided on 1h sword (tanking and shield bash)now trying to decide between 2h or axes.

1 question I have is there is a warrior that when ever I hit him with my wizard (18k hit) no matter if he is even fighting someone else he immedialty sprint assualts me and usually gets stun then kills me, is it a warrior skill? or us he using some kind of hack or have a macro set? reason it makes me wonder is the other warriors I have fought dont do that.

maxed sprint is far and has a pretty good stun probability. its just about how fast you can click and hit 1 lol.

[ShadowSpell]

maxed sprint is far and has a pretty good stun probability. its just about how fast you can click and hit 1 lol.

as quick as he does it, it's not possible that he's doing it on him own, just want to make sure that it wasnt a warrior skill of some sort, he can be working on killing 3 other thiefs and the split second I hit him he's instanly on me even if im in a crowd of people pvping, so he has to be using something along the 3rd party type software.



well i think ive decided, its going to be a 1h/dual axe warrior with warlock sub, lol between all the abnormal status's and shield bashing this is really going to piss people off pvping.

[the_wicked]

maxed sprint is far and has a pretty good stun probability. its just about how fast you can click and hit 1 lol.

as quick as he does it, it's not possible that he's doing it on him own, just want to make sure that it wasnt a warrior skill of some sort, he can be working on killing 3 other thiefs and the split second I hit him he's instanly on me even if im in a crowd of people pvping, so he has to be using something along the 3rd party type software.



well i think ive decided, its going to be a 1h/dual axe warrior with warlock sub, lol between all the abnormal status's and shield bashing this is really going to piss people off pvping.

I played with a warlock a while back. i had fun putting people to sleep randomly. dont forget you can debuff bots and get them killed hahaha

[Vindicator]

Lol shadow, I have a 1h warlock, youve seen me pvp right? Ive killed everyone on the server at lvl 77 >.<. Even Hawa's sosun+9 bow, and full sun+6 garm set got owned by me. SpearofTrust cowers when i ask him for pvp, and even evo9 cant scam enough sosuns to live agaisnt me . PM me ingame sometime and ill show you what a 1h warlock can do

[cwspartan]

Really good creative suggestions the_wicked and Barotix. I like the_wicked's more because 2hand does have really good damage with maddening and daredevil. It works if you were a 2hand vs. another 2 hand and also vs a chinese. Basically a really good pvp character. I wounder how good it will stand in a guild war

[bakafish]

Too bad Dual Axes never outdamage Two-Handed Sword. Skills don't get 50% damage bonus from Bleed, just from the status. Since you're planning to use Axes after you get your target stunned, combos will cancel the stun midway through the combos.

[KayaNemo]

IMO 2H ftw - but just get lvl 1 of shield trash. Shield trash aids alot when you're facing tough times. Warlock and Clerics are good sub. Warlock for offensive, and Cleric is fairly good because this cleric can tank a whole lot of damage before dying.

[Juicy]

and please next time post this is characters and skills

And Please dont be a wanna be Moderator/Admin
Let the admins/mods decide that not you...

[Mefra]

I played with a warlock a while back. i had fun putting people to sleep randomly. dont forget you can debuff bots and get them killed hahaha

Lol, that alone would be a reason to start a warlock

[_Scarlett_]

IMO 2H ftw - but just get lvl 1 of shield trash. Shield trash aids alot when you're facing tough times. Warlock and Clerics are good sub. Warlock for offensive, and Cleric is fairly good because this cleric can tank a whole lot of damage before dying.

yeah, I have a 1h warrior sub cleric...and it sure is a tank ^,^ rarely use HP pots and I rarely die.

But on topic if you want to take lock as a sub go ahead, but it'll be more offensive than defensive. Plus, freeze and other statuses will be a bisch unless you have a cleric handy to give you holy word/spell or to use innocent or integrity (especially pure int locks = omfg, just gotta hope you get the first hits in XD)

[ShadowSpell]

Lol shadow, I have a 1h warlock, youve seen me pvp right? Ive killed everyone on the server at lvl 77 >.<. Even Hawa's sosun+9 bow, and full sun+6 garm set got owned by me. SpearofTrust cowers when i ask him for pvp, and even evo9 cant scam enough sosuns to live agaisnt me . PM me ingame sometime and ill show you what a 1h warlock can do

Yeah I saw you for the first time pvp like 2 days ago and that kinda reenforced the idea I had about 1h/warlock, but I do think I'll max out axes also, shouldnt be hard to lvl him and get enough SP since me and a couple of guild mates are plvling new euros at the ongs for each of us, got one to lvl 20 in a little over an hour and a half the other night, I'll look for you next time im on, either I'll log on with my chinese so you woooop up on me or I'll just watch you pvp since we cant really pvp with my euro.

[Barotix]

Too bad Dual Axes never outdamage Two-Handed Sword. Skills don't get 50% damage bonus from Bleed, just from the status. Since you're planning to use Axes after you get your target stunned, combos will cancel the stun midway through the combos.

O rly? brb with proof
Konpaku loads mad slow >.<

EDIT: you're right about bleed, I got it confused with bind.
Dual axe seems like the better of the 3 party wise. 1H is the best tank wise, 2H is good for PvP parties, but dual axe at 70+ in a fully functional party will [no joke] outdmg 2h.

You're probadly thinking that because dual axe does chains it can't:

I'm gonna get hypothetical now:

• Assuming there are no outside variables interfering [lag, stun glitch, etc]
• Taking in account the 5* seconds of stun [when glitch is not applied]

Dual Axe:

Dual Counter

Two Hand:

Triple Swing

• Assuming both are level 120 [Ignoring passives *for the time being*]

2h first:
200% from dull bind stun and sleep [4x]
50% from KD [1.5x]
114% increase [2.14x*estimate*]

3 hits: maximum: 2615*2.14*4*1.5 = 33k per hit*3 = 99k [assumuing all hit and no blocks]
3 hits: minimum: 2140*2.14*4*1.5 = 27k per hit*3 = 81k [assuming all hit and no blocks]

Dual Axe:
200% from dull bind stun and sleep [4x]
50% from KD [1.5x]
73% increase [1.73x]

4 hits: max: 2615*1.73*4*1.5 = 27k per hit*4 = 108k [assuming all hit and no blocks]
4 hits: min: 2140*1.73*4*1.5 = 22k per hit*4 = 88k [assuming all hit and no blocks]

Now you're probably going to say the variables are unrealistic, so lets remove bind stun sleep and dull:

Dual axe:
max: 108k/4 = 27k total
min: 88k/4 = 22k total

2h:
max: 99k/4 = 25k total
min: 81k/4 = 20k total

Also put into consideration that the dual axe hits faster, end result: dual axe is better than 2h, and I'm sure if we did this equation for all skills the result would be the same. [*they all had the same mutiplier]

EDIT: Disregard weapon reinforce, and Physical out put from weapons [their the same]
[Assuming enemy is still knock downed]
Passives:
Dual Axe: Passive Physical Atk*2.20
Max: 27k*2.20 = 59k/4 = 15k per hit [very fast 4 hits]
min: 22k*2.20 = 48k/4 = 12k per hit [very fast 4 hits]
2H: Passive Physical Atk*2.19
Max: 25k*2.19 = 55k/3 = 18k per hit [medium speed 3 hits]
min: 20k*2.19 = 44k/3 = 15k per hit [medium speed 3 hits]

we could do critical rush VS daredevil. E.G. 2*6.5 vs 5*1.63