does srf allow people who use no-dc client?

[_Scarlett_]

Joymax won't enforce this themself, why you ask?

You get annoyed that you have to restart sro every time you dont connect, user buys premium to stop this..

Classic joymax marketing.

Yeah...I remember when you didn't have to type in the image code, and wouldn't get d/c when you couldn't get into a serv. You could sit there for minutes hold down the enter key until you logged ^,^ oh the ol' days

[Ryoko]

They played off the fact that the servers are jammed with thousands of gold bots by charging you MONEY to get around them and be able to log in

Asswipes >.<

And if image verification aint doin shit to stop bots, remove it.

[ShadowSpell]

it was asked on silkroad.net many times to remove the image verification since it doesnt stop bots, joymax replied that the users were the ones that asked for it thats why its in place, I remember prior to the image verification, but at that time I dont EVER remember seeing "cannot connect due to server traffic", so the short and sweet of it is bots starting overtaking the servers so joymax put the image verification in place to make it even harder to log in and then released premium to make een more money.

[ArchYourFace]

They played off the fact that the servers are jammed with thousands of gold bots by charging you MONEY to get around them and be able to log in

Asswipes >.<

And if image verification aint doin shit to stop bots, remove it.

Read their tos, it states the are unable to acknowledge the reason for the overcrowded servers and the lags. This is why.

[MrBow]

They played off the fact that the servers are jammed with thousands of gold bots by charging you MONEY to get around them and be able to log in

Asswipes >.<

And if image verification aint doin shit to stop bots, remove it.

Read their tos, it states the are unable to acknowledge the reason for the overcrowded servers and the lags. This is why.

Right =/

[IceCrash]

lol i got banned for 7 days for talking about it
im baaack nao

[MrBow]

WB

[NuclearSilo]

lol i got banned for 7 days for talking about it
im baaack nao

Talk about what? Arent we talking about "it"?

[crazy_foo]

its a 3rd party software so i doubt its allow, but why arent they allowed? from what ive heard its just a quicker way of logging in

No and I could bet over half the ppl here use it anyway so if your gonna then do w/e (I'm not suggesting u get it just to clarify)u want but talking about it here will do u no good

[NoobStyle]

I use no dc client.. so what.. ban me.. if i cant get in cuz of bots... then im using no dc plain and simple!

[borat2]

I use no dc client.. so what.. ban me.. if i cant get in cuz of bots... then im using no dc plain and simple!

this is how most people start to bot

"everyone arround me bots so who shouldn't i do the same"
i believe you can do more "damage" to the game with pk2 editing than with a no dc client.

[Ryoko]

I use no dc client.. so what.. ban me.. if i cant get in cuz of bots... then im using no dc plain and simple!

If you had a smidgen of intelligence, you'd just keep your mouth shut. Honestly.

Altered client. Third party. No no. Clearly outlined in forum rules.

Which means, don't promote its download or link to it.

Talking and doing, are two different things.

And LOL at the person who said we'd ban for G15 someday. Think half the people in my guild have one of those.

[deep.in]

I use no dc client.. so what.. ban me.. if i cant get in cuz of bots... then im using no dc plain and simple!

this is how most people start to bot

"everyone arround me bots so who shouldn't i do the same"
i believe you can do more "damage" to the game with pk2 editing than with a no dc client.

"many players can't log in, so why shouldn't i do the same?"

oh wait, premium

"many players buys premium, so why shouldn't i do the same?"

Because i wanna try free game?

Botting and no-dc client is two very different things.

[deep.in]

I use no dc client.. so what.. ban me.. if i cant get in cuz of bots... then im using no dc plain and simple!

this is how most people start to bot

"everyone arround me bots so who shouldn't i do the same"
i believe you can do more "damage" to the game with pk2 editing than with a no dc client.

"many players can't log in, so why shouldn't i do the same?"

oh wait, premium

"many players buys premium, so why shouldn't i do the same?"

Because i wanna try free game?

Botting and no-dc client is two very different things.

[NukingWhore]

I was just telling the other mods to ignore the many current statements of

"If SRF bans for bots they should allow <something> and <other thing> and <whatever thing>"

Its really simple. Really really simple.

Heres the policies.
Break the policies, recieve a ban or warning.
Follow the policies.

IIRC the policies prohibit third party softwares cracks and so forth.

Which means, you will never find a "Download Link!" for something of that nature.

If we say "We are banning bots from the forum" then that means simply clear, "we are banning bots from the forum" in black and white.

It does not mean, "Oh, well SRF did this, therefore SRF is automatically obligated to do <this> and <that> but not <these> or your corrupt you support tos violations and any other crap people can dream up".

SRF doesnt relate to SRO's ToS.

if that were the case, the people who have a pk2 edit would be banned. which would be most people

Aye!

Guys and gals. Alot of us dont agree with all the rules or policies they have here at SRF but Ryoko is right in this quote. It is their site and forum and their rules and that is that.

[borat2]

I use no dc client.. so what.. ban me.. if i cant get in cuz of bots... then im using no dc plain and simple!

this is how most people start to bot

"everyone arround me bots so who shouldn't i do the same"
i believe you can do more "damage" to the game with pk2 editing than with a no dc client.

"many players can't log in, so why shouldn't i do the same?"

oh wait, premium

"many players buys premium, so why shouldn't i do the same?"

Because i wanna try free game?

Botting and no-dc client is two very different things.

you can still try a free game without a dc client.
no dc client makes things easier and so does botting.

[deep.in]

you can still try a free game without a dc client.
no dc client makes things easier and so does botting.

NoDC wont help you gain exp automatically. It only helps you do make very simple operation - logging in, which is hard in SRO. It makes a very small aperation, just not letting game to close after fail to connect to the server. Is that really bad? I'am bad if i press Connect button without launching game again? o.0
If JM REALLY wont be abble to ban bots, but they keep trying, then noDC client will be really bad, but now, when JM throws shit on customers, customers should do the same...

[tedtwilliger]

Its as simple as this.

This is not your forum. This forum has the right to make the rules what ever the hell they want them to be. If you dont like their rules, make your own forum! Than you can do whatever the hell you want.

Stop trying to justify using a 3rd party program to log in. SRF doesn't allow it and it wont change. No matter how much you try to justify it, it wont change. These are the rules. Accept them and get over it.

[deep.in]

Its as simple as this.

This is not your forum. This forum has the right to make the rules what ever the hell they want them to be. If you dont like their rules, make your own forum! Than you can do whatever the hell you want.

Stop trying to justify using a 3rd party program to log in. SRF doesn't allow it and it wont change. No matter how much you try to justify it, it wont change. These are the rules. Accept them and get over it.

This is not your forum, so dont tell me what should i do

[Noobs_Slayer]

GayMax is provocating to use such programs like no dc and i bet that most use it. But it's ok i gues, because gaymax don't care about costumers than why we should care about gaymax rules?

[Poochu]

Look guys, its like this, ive made it short, sweet and true.

NoDC clients are against joymax Tos, thus, they're against rules here and result in a 7day ban.
You admit to using a NoDC client here, and you get the 7 day ban.

A large majority of people here use NoDC clients (don't deny it), yet they won't openly say that they do, as people are smarter than that and would rather not have a 7day ban.

NoDC does lead to botting, NoDC clients are usually created by members of bot forums / bot makers themselves, thus your promoting bots by using them. Also, NoDC makes logging in easier, hmm, while your on the same site, you see a bot, which makes your leveling easier. See where im getting at?

In a way, it's like how governments say marijuana leads to harder drugs. You start on something less severe, then lead on to the serious stuff (NoDC = not severe, leading on to a bot program)

[NuclearSilo]

Its as simple as this.

This is not your forum. This forum has the right to make the rules what ever the hell they want them to be. If you dont like their rules, make your own forum! Than you can do whatever the hell you want.

Stop trying to justify using a 3rd party program to log in. SRF doesn't allow it and it wont change. No matter how much you try to justify it, it wont change. These are the rules. Accept them and get over it.

Agreed.

If ppl dont want to follow the policies in this forum, they can join BlackFox's forum and throw shits there.

If u dont like this forum, u can leave. If u want to stay, follow the rule.

[Ryoko]

Some people think PK2 should be banned.
Some people think no-dc should be banned.
Some people think we should ban for all violations.
Some people think its dictatorship.
Some people think all bots should be banned.
Some think only certain bots should be banned.
Some think only certain bots do get banned

No matter which route we choose, some will be discontent. We are always working to find a ruleset that fits the community best.

No-dc is an altered client (IE, hack.) Its not distributed by the game makers or regulated. We have never allowed links to such programs, as outlined in the forum rules.

Not everything is "ethics and morals." either. Download links and download sites are often unsafe as well. Maybe some are a savvy tech users who can tell when a site is safe, or scan what they downloaded. The majority is not.

If you say something stupid, like this

so what.. ban me..

Then yeah. Dont cry if ya got hit with the temp-stick.

Or if you say something retarded, like this

DEATH 2 this Farking morons. Yes u mother Farking cock suckers. I am right now Botting 12 CHars LOL. Botting FTW.

I can promise the board will ban you.

[w00t]

:')

Insane in the brain \o

Go Ryoko ban em

[crazy_foo]

Aye Capin'!!!!

[nohunta]

wait...
you guys think no-dc client is a real client subsitute?

as far as i know, whats being used is just a script that re-routes the 'disconnected from server' pop up that u get when u can't log in.

from what i can tell its just a pop up blocker like a firefox or IE add-on that does nothing but ease the game from annoying things like the 'pop up DC' :S

lol it should be in the useful tools for download thing in this forum that way i can use it later when all my premiums run out in a couple weeks.

if ur gonna be against that might as well not use vent or teamspeak or some sh1t like that for fortress wars,guild wars or jobbing cuz that helps someone way more than not getting a disconnect pop up due to botting server traffic.

Thank you, thank you.
Hit the nail on the head

[123noob]

lol like ryoko said... the img verification is just another way to force players buy pt... cause they have to waste time putting in the code while the server gets crowded again.

[Noobs_Slayer]

JoyMax just forcing us to use such kind programs like no-dc...
Why we should care about Joymax rules if they forgot costumers service?
Ok, let's say im 99% legit now

[bplease]

They played off the fact that the servers are jammed with thousands of gold bots by charging you MONEY to get around them and be able to log in

Asswipes >.<

And if image verification aint doin shit to stop bots, remove it.

Actually Joymax added this for security measures, because pre-imagecode bruteforcers used direct IP addresses similar to the clientless bot to enter new PW rapidly for a set ID, with no consequences. By this I mean you used to have no limit on ID/PW combinations when connecting to the login server, only the website. It was actually a smart idea and even prevents most auto-relog scripts, however the placement of it is untimely, as you should enter it in after starting the game prior to ID/PW thus allowing this setup to go back to the old setup where all you had to do was hold down enter.

[shabowsdawn]

i would say this is getting outa hand no dc client yes its a bot client i know that bots NEED that client to work. i know this because my time in venice almost everyone is a bot so i get in alot of talks about bots and ok the bots that are active (like they only bot at night but are active in the day) are cool cuz maybe they dont have the time to lvl like they have a kid and have no time to there selves. but only have time for like 1 trade run and thats it how you going to lvl then? so what im saying is that no dc client is a bot client if you use it you can bot but alot of people use it but dont bot. BUT people can just find a bot and bot from there just because they find a no dc client dont mean they bot it means some people are fed up with logging in or there computer cant load the client in 3 seconds. the only bad thing about bots is the gold bots they farm gold and sell it for $ but normal botting i would say is not as bad only because of the reason above. besides if you use no dc client dont tell this forum or say it the the wrong person because yes jm can ban your account and srf can ban you here. if you ban me for saying this then do it. im sticking my head out to tell everyone the truth. also i know some botters that still love the grind legitly even tho they bot because they got no time. but you decide if you want to use no dc client or not