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larrylhm wrote:oh..yes its my first character. ok then i'll just level as i like :) i think i'll keep some gaps just to get more sp tho :D

2 skill trees...im bower so i'll take pacheon, what about the other? :X

Or..You lv up in gap 0 and then farm at 100.


wont i lack SP for skills of that level? :X
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larrylhm wrote:oh..yes its my first character. ok then i'll just level as i like :) i think i'll keep some gaps just to get more sp tho :D

2 skill trees...im bower so i'll take pacheon, what about the other? :X

It is a game after all, this should be the general attitude any ways. Theres no reason to be all anxious and stressed about your build and sp right now, thatll come over time. Just keep all stats on str (I know there are other ways, and I prefer them, but again, no reason to add stress and confusion to the mix.)
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larrylhm wrote:
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larrylhm wrote:oh..yes its my first character. ok then i'll just level as i like :) i think i'll keep some gaps just to get more sp tho :D

2 skill trees...im bower so i'll take pacheon, what about the other? :X

Or..You lv up in gap 0 and then farm at 100.


wont i lack SP for skills of that level? :X


I was just going to say that. If you keep a 0 gap the whole time, sure you'll level faster, but your skills will be quite weak especially when you get to higher levels. I guess it's not as much of a problem with PVE. It'll just take a little longer to kill each monster with the weaker skills so it would tend to slow down your leveling.

Seems to me a constant 3 or 5 gap would be a good happy medium.
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no, people 0 gap to cap all the time and do fine. even though your skills wont be up to par, your weapon will help you alot, that along with your distance from mobs and youll do fine.
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Cell are you serious? :D people 0 gap to lv 100 and then farm right. now i feel motivated :D maybe i wont go 0 gap but probably 3-4 gap like prom suggested :D

thanks everyone who helped and gave me some idea on how to play sro! really appreciate you guy's help and hopefully i can show u a ss of me reaching 100 soon :)
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larrylhm wrote:Cell are you serious? :D people 0 gap to lv 100 and then farm right. now i feel motivated :D maybe i wont go 0 gap but probably 3-4 gap like prom suggested :D

thanks everyone who helped and gave me some idea on how to play sro! really appreciate you guy's help and hopefully i can show u a ss of me reaching 100 soon :)

im not 100 sure on this specific cap, but i know that in 90 and 80 i knew several people that have done this. just play the game and enjoy it. this specific character will likely not be your main main character anyways.
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ahh i see i see. well i'll wait till morning to decide. its 3.40am here and i need to get some sleep :)

but im most likely to go 3-4 gap hehe. i think it can work out.
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shld i make a wiz/bard/cleric to power level my chinese? >.<
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im beginning to catch with this stuff myself too.

some ways to do it (im not sure if theyre all legit btw):
1a. get in free ong taxis, or paid ones - farm till you have enough SP
1b. get some1 to Plvl you to around 85 and take it from there

2a. make a wiz build (wiz/bard or cleric), get in free ong taxis or paid ones, have 9 gap all the time, once ongs are not giving you any XP, have some1 plvl you to 85.
2b. use the wiz to plvl/farm your main char.

* some of the methods ofcourse involve alot of money, thats why i said im not sure if its legitimate, buying gold that is.

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im thinking of going 2b)...making a wiz bard to level my own main...but im not sure if euro can level faster than chinese or not. if it cant then i think it will be a complete waste of time :X
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forget about lvling fast with wiz/bard, you better go wiz/cleric for solo lvling, but you can just get plvl untill 56~ than start farming your main char, sell taxis in the meantime, and make money so by the time your main will be fully farmed, you'll have enough money to plvl your wiz to 85 etc

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so i should make a wizard cleric and get free taxis till 56 and farm on my own? ohh...interesting. ahha. this will have to wait till i actually get onto the server... i have been trying to login for 18hrs now ...@_@
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sn1kzZe wrote:forget about lvling fast with wiz/bard, you better go wiz/cleric for solo lvling, but you can just get plvl untill 56~ than start farming your main char, sell taxis in the meantime, and make money so by the time your main will be fully farmed, you'll have enough money to plvl your wiz to 85 etc


To me, all of that seems a waste of time. You take the time to plvl a character to 56 and use it to farm your main. That takes time. In the meantime, use the lvl 56 character to plvl other people to make money. That takes time. During all that time, your main isn't really leveling much because it's farming. Then I guess you have to 'make up for lost time' by plvling your main since you earned enough money from your selling of power levels to others.

Seems to me it'd be simpler to just... play the game with your main. Get a group of friends right from the beginning, form a guild, do 8-man parties as often as possible to level faster, with a 3-5 gap so your skills stay fairly up to date. Perhaps you won't end up fully farmed, at least as quickly, but you'll actually be playing the game and having a good time, instead of spending much of it staring at your horse's backside. :)
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SRO:
1x, STR Blader (Thebes)
54, STR blader (Venice)
0x, INT wizard (Venice)
19, INT spear (Venice)
34, STR rogue/bard (Venus)
0x, STR blader (Venus)
8x, INT bard/cleric (Gaia)

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if its your 1st char you have 2 choices imo:

1> play while having fun--> keep your bower, farm till you get sick(try to hit lvl 18-19 if you can) then keep a lower gap(say 3-4 gap) then just grind and level up, and consider truly trying to farm yourself at either 52 or 60+(i think that around these level you get a decent amount of xp even at 9gap, and leveling takes so long anyway that you might as well resign yourself to farming)

i would advise you go 100 pach/fire 80 light and 20 ice, the 2nd least sp consuming chinese build

2> Concentrate on making an FF char which you can enjoy at higher levels--> Make wiz/bard and level up with a 3 gap to like 52(if possible 62/64) then farm yourself a new char if you have 2 computers at ongs(there is a guide to farming somewhere here i think)
NOTE- you can only do this legitly if you have more than 1 computer.

As to what you wanna do, its your choice, i myself prefer method 1 since grinding to cap even on a 0 gap is too hard(and im too lazy), just remember that if you take method 1 getting to cap will be a much longer and more arduous process as compared to method 2
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Im not a huge fan of european actually...so i'll go with method one :) my bower is lv 30 with 2k SP for lv 31 skills. after this i'll start leaving gap until i reach like 9 gap, which will be around lv 40. then i'll continue farming until i get sick and 0 gap again. so on so forth. what do u think about it?

i do have 2 comps but my old comp has only 256mb ram (T_T) and it has really bad graphics card so...i'll have to fix it before i can use it to train or be a stall or something :)
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PR0METHEUS wrote:
sn1kzZe wrote:forget about lvling fast with wiz/bard, you better go wiz/cleric for solo lvling, but you can just get plvl untill 56~ than start farming your main char, sell taxis in the meantime, and make money so by the time your main will be fully farmed, you'll have enough money to plvl your wiz to 85 etc


To me, all of that seems a waste of time. You take the time to plvl a character to 56 and use it to farm your main. That takes time. In the meantime, use the lvl 56 character to plvl other people to make money. That takes time. During all that time, your main isn't really leveling much because it's farming. Then I guess you have to 'make up for lost time' by plvling your main since you earned enough money from your selling of power levels to others.

Seems to me it'd be simpler to just... play the game with your main. Get a group of friends right from the beginning, form a guild, do 8-man parties as often as possible to level faster, with a 3-5 gap so your skills stay fairly up to date. Perhaps you won't end up fully farmed, at least as quickly, but you'll actually be playing the game and having a good time, instead of spending much of it staring at your horse's backside. :)


youre saying its a waste of time, and then you offer a more simple (lazy to think sort of) method which takes more time. i say give it some thought, plan and calculate your idea, and you'll be more happy with the end result product, and it will take less time.

besides, the fact you are plvling means you are building a main defensive char, which kills rather slow, therefore if you plan on creating a plvl char, you wont get bored because of the high dmg and fast kills, and in the process you will guarantee a "rollback" feature incase your farm/plvl product fails. agree/disagree?

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larrylhm wrote:Im not a huge fan of european actually...so i'll go with method one :) my bower is lv 30 with 2k SP for lv 31 skills. after this i'll start leaving gap until i reach like 9 gap, which will be around lv 40. then i'll continue farming until i get sick and 0 gap again. so on so forth. what do u think about it?

i do have 2 comps but my old comp has only 256mb ram (T_T) and it has really bad graphics card so...i'll have to fix it before i can use it to train or be a stall or something :)


its what i would do :P

i already said im lazy and dont to get into making a wiz, then do plvl,etc,etc.
i find it easier to make 1-2 chars and play w/e i feel like playing the most.
Besides cap is overrated(according to the serious grinders) i myself will probably nvr(takes a ridiculous amount of time and effort) reach cap, have w/e fun i can have then move on to something else for a while
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sn1kzZe wrote:youre saying its a waste of time, and then you offer a more simple (lazy to think sort of) method which takes more time. i say give it some thought, plan and calculate your idea, and you'll be more happy with the end result product, and it will take less time.

besides, the fact you are plvling means you are building a main defensive char, which kills rather slow, therefore if you plan on creating a plvl char, you wont get bored because of the high dmg and fast kills, and in the process you will guarantee a "rollback" feature incase your farm/plvl product fails. agree/disagree?


It's a waste of time not because it takes too long, but because I find power leveling boring, on both sides. If I'm getting power leveled, I'm just sitting on a horse watching my exp bar go up. Boring. If I'm power leveling other people, I'm generally killing really low level mobs, which would happen quickly, all 1-hit, but providing no benefit really for my character (I could be getting better exp for myself on higher mobs.)

In the end, I'd rather just play the game with my main. Sure it will take longer, but I'm just playing and having fun.

I just think power leveling itself is helping to ruin the game. It makes everyone high level, so the few that choose not to do it are left behind with almost no community to play with, no one stalling low level equipment, etc. A lot of power levelers are greedy and think they own every decent grind spot on the map, even if I got there first.

If power leveling didn't exist (and botting) there would be more of a balance across the level ranges. Lower level players would be able to do more things (like jobbing).
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SRO:
1x, STR Blader (Thebes)
54, STR blader (Venice)
0x, INT wizard (Venice)
19, INT spear (Venice)
34, STR rogue/bard (Venus)
0x, STR blader (Venus)
8x, INT bard/cleric (Gaia)

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i perfectly agree with you with that statement, but we are discussing something completely different, given the current status of the game, what is the best way to succeed.

ofcourse there are many things broken with the game, but we cant force our mentality over a game that isnt backed by its moderators (GM). so we make due ?

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sn1kzZe wrote:i perfectly agree with you with that statement, but we are discussing something completely different, given the current status of the game, what is the best way to succeed.

ofcourse there are many things broken with the game, but we cant force our mentality over a game that isnt backed by its moderators (GM). so we make due ?


I understand what you're saying. One of the most efficient ways to get your main to a high level with a lot of SP (or fully farmed) is to plvl a fast-killing character to the 60s or so, and use it to farm/plvl your main, etc. It's easy, and doesn't take as long as solo hand grinding. Botting is also easy. There are plenty of ways that are easy. I just don't think they are the best. My idea of what is best is what's best for the game, even if the GMs and Joymax management aren't doing anything to back the game.

Then again, I don't play...
Missing the good times in SRO... :love:

SRO:
1x, STR Blader (Thebes)
54, STR blader (Venice)
0x, INT wizard (Venice)
19, INT spear (Venice)
34, STR rogue/bard (Venus)
0x, STR blader (Venus)
8x, INT bard/cleric (Gaia)

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