I am having second thought about my build.....

[Rush4Life]

Well, I have a rogue (crossbow)/warrior(2H), but since a couple of days I am having second thought about it. I am currently farming SP and I really want to know if I should stick to this build or get the curseheart quest...

Why I love this build:
Rogue:
-Rogue gives amazing crits
-The 'fun-pack': monstermask, stealth etc etc
-Ranged attacks
-KD and KB

Warrior:
-KD, BD, stun
-Nice damage
-Ironskin and manaskin
-Tanking ability, being invincible for a certain time
-Heavy armour

Overall:
-Switching between the power of a pure int (WITH CRITS =D), just normal, or being able to take all blows (by adding a few K of HP)
-Just having an overall party build
-It saved my ass alot of times (giants, pt mobs, etc..)
-It's a unique build

Cons:
-Very very slow, due to heavy armour
-The crossbow really does alot more damage than the 2H
-No good parties in my server
-No defence against magic (unless I turn manaskin on)
-I hardly use 2H
-I don't know if it has potential at higher lvls


Please somebody tell me, why I would de-lvl warrior (there is no way I am gonna leave rogue) and what subclass to pick (I will get all the SP from warrior back + the 82K I already have, and please, don't tell me to pick bard, because I am already ranged).
Also, Is warrior/warlock really that strong? What is the average damage of that build (is it higher compared to rogue)?

EDIT:
If I de-lvl warrior I will get 13640sp back.
I was thinking to take cleric as sub and as daggers as second weapon, but I am still not sure, because I have to collect over 1k cursehearts. But I can better decide now, instead of being sorry later.

[juesi]

Well, if u want more tanking ability so u can survive in jobs/pvp take the cleric.

If u want to chase down ur target and kill him quickly and escape take the bard (moving march & noise) noise helps alot if ur solo grinding, but u cant tank like rogue/cleric, so with partymobs u would have hardtime.

I prefer u to take the cleric, coz ull mostly 1hit, or be 1hit so the healing and defence buffs can help u out of situations like that..

[Anotherplyer]

imo, especially at your lvl, cleric is better because you get most of the skills that are the most beneficial with cleric sub-recovery division, blessing,and def buffs. And you're at a level you prolly will do more pvp or jobbing than if you were at lvl 30 (where there arent as many healing or strong def buffs yet, except blessing).

[antics]

i say go bard
with xbow xtreme ull die either way
at least with this ull get speed and able to run away from ur foes
i myself am a xbow cleric and i do not like it
well its fine i just dont use the buffs as much

[Rush4Life]

i say go bard
with xbow xtreme ull die either way
at least with this ull get speed and able to run away from ur foes
i myself am a xbow cleric and i do not like it
well its fine i just dont use the buffs as much

do you actually know how I pvp or grind?
I always get the best gear I can get for my char, I hardly pvp with CE on, except if he gets KDed and I wanna give the final blow. And I am not de-lvling an entire three which gives alot of benefit just to run a bit faster... you got scrolls and pots for that!

[weymouthhall]

Im warrior/ rogue as u are but broader, since I use xbow/dagger/1h/2h.
With this build, u gotta farm alot of sp and kinda be patient with it. But trust me, at capped lvl full farmed, u will be one of the most dominant force in pvp or job war or anything that you do, if you know how to combine and utilize all the weapons u have available.
I havent lost against any builds in my server so far, not even the "somewhat-considered- strong warrior/warlock or warrior/cleric" since I usually combine my weapons together in pvp and take advantages of both warrior and rogue. The best way to use this char that I found out so far is to use either 2handsword or xbow and knock down the opponent, then switch to dagger, turn on dagger desperate and finish the opponent laying on the ground with mortal wounds skill. If thats not enough, follow up with prick or butterfly blow (depend who u fight against) will be more than enough to take care of it.
As I said, this char is pure offensive machine so if farmed and used correctly, u r pretty much invicible since u have so many options to kill your opponents !

[Rush4Life]

Im warrior/ rogue as u are but broader, since I use xbow/dagger/1h/2h.
With this build, u gotta farm alot of sp and kinda be patient with it. But trust me, at capped lvl full farmed, u will be one of the most dominant force in pvp or job war or anything that you do, if you know how to combine and utilize all the weapons u have available.
I havent lost against any builds in my server so far, not even the "somewhat-considered- strong warrior/warlock or warrior/cleric" since I usually combine my weapons together in pvp and take advantages of both warrior and rogue. The best way to use this char that I found out so far is to use either 2handsword or xbow and knock down the opponent, then switch to dagger, turn on dagger desperate and finish the opponent laying on the ground with mortal wounds skill. If thats not enough, follow up with prick or butterfly blow (depend who u fight against) will be more than enough to take care of it.
As I said, this char is pure offensive machine so if farmed and used correctly, u r pretty much invicible since u have so many options to kill your opponents !

Well, that's also a reason why I am having second thoughts, this is one of the big upsides of the whole build, there are downsides, but I really don't know what to do, maybe I will wait untill I am fully farmed (120k sp to go).
I love the concept of being able to pwn every single build there is, because pure are no match for a good crit, they are just too easy, as for other builds, you just have to play it smart I guess.

After reading this, I think I'll stay with rogue/warrior, if somebody comes up with a better comment, I will look if that suits me

[Rush4Life]

I just saw some pvp vids of rogue/warlocks, and they seem to pwn even full sosun players *cough* bots*cough* without anyproblem so I will probably de-lvl warrior and go rogue/warlock, if anybody will give me a good reason not to, I will stop de-lvling warrior...

[SuperTanker]

noes!!!!! dont!!!! keep ur rogue/warrior. u will see cap how good u are in pvp . keep 2h, for pvp, and crossbow for pve .

cleric isn't a bad coice either .

[noobert mclagg]

I hav seen rogue/cleric kill lots of 2h. The rogue comes out of stealth uses prick( sometimes this is enough to kill, but in most cases it is not) then follows up with mortal wounds and combo blow. If this does not kill, switch to cleric cast heavenly flash and put on xbow and xbow extreme and snipe up.

[!G4!]

goooo Warrior/Warlock

[BloodyBlade]

Stay how it is now.
You will be unique ^^

[weymouthhall]

Against rogue/ warlock, its pretty simple if you know how to defend against their attack when they put u under slumber and hit you. You should turn on vital increase first, switch to 1h sword and shield, after first strike, knock them back, sprint assault them, switch back to 2h sword, knock them down on the floor, then quickly change to dagger, turn on desperate and strike with mortal wounds while they are on the ground
U have too many weapons available, why not learn how to combine and use them in different situations? Thats the most interesting aspect of this build .
To be able to combine and utilize 4-5 weapons=> endless offensive and defensive possibility

[Rush4Life]

Against rogue/ warlock, its pretty simple if you know how to defend against their attack when they put u under slumber and hit you. You should turn on vital increase first, switch to 1h sword and shield, after first strike, knock them back, sprint assault them, switch back to 2h sword, knock them down on the floor, then quickly change to dagger, turn on desperate and strike with mortal wounds while they are on the ground
U have too many weapons available, why not learn how to combine and use them in different situations? Thats the most interesting aspect of this build .
To be able to combine and utilize 4-5 weapons=> endless offensive and defensive possibility

But I am only using 2 weapons atm...
I really don't know what to do with my char

[weymouthhall]

Against rogue/ warlock, its pretty simple if you know how to defend against their attack when they put u under slumber and hit you. You should turn on vital increase first, switch to 1h sword and shield, after first strike, knock them back, sprint assault them, switch back to 2h sword, knock them down on the floor, then quickly change to dagger, turn on desperate and strike with mortal wounds while they are on the ground
U have too many weapons available, why not learn how to combine and use them in different situations? Thats the most interesting aspect of this build .
To be able to combine and utilize 4-5 weapons=> endless offensive and defensive possibility

But I am only using 2 weapons atm...
I really don't know what to do with my char

As I said, this build is extreme offensive meele build , it will need the most sp out of all builds, and only when u can learn how to use at least 3 weapons and combine them will you understand the formidability of this build

[Rush4Life]

Against rogue/ warlock, its pretty simple if you know how to defend against their attack when they put u under slumber and hit you. You should turn on vital increase first, switch to 1h sword and shield, after first strike, knock them back, sprint assault them, switch back to 2h sword, knock them down on the floor, then quickly change to dagger, turn on desperate and strike with mortal wounds while they are on the ground
U have too many weapons available, why not learn how to combine and use them in different situations? Thats the most interesting aspect of this build .
To be able to combine and utilize 4-5 weapons=> endless offensive and defensive possibility

But I am only using 2 weapons atm...
I really don't know what to do with my char

As I said, this build is extreme offensive meele build , it will need the most sp out of all builds, and only when u can learn how to use at least 3 weapons and combine them will you understand the formidability of this build

so I should farm even more sp and add daggers?

[weymouthhall]

Yes, with this build, dagger is usually the weapon that u will use to finish ur opponent since it will deal the most damage.

[Rush4Life]

Alright, I added a poll, I will see what it will be next week, and I will count the votes.

[foudre]

I had a rogue/ cleric before i didn't really like it so much, but now sub bard is alot better suited for me, cause its alot faster if you are tired of being slow moving, go sub bard. Or you could have done 1 hander / rogue that was a fun build too i had for a while before i got rid of warrior, use cross bow to get poison in, switch to sheild and sword repeat when poison wears off. If you switch more often you might find it more fun, honestly 2 handeds are just so boring to me. but like you said no parties on your server you'd be better off opting for daggers over the 2 handed (you may have it but you sounded as though you only had crossbow). Though if you want tanking power just get a cleric sub, vindiction could kill a giant 10 lvls higher easily (rogue/cleric) where as my sub bard has to use that extra speed of mine and get the hell away from the giant.

[SunDark]

D-lvl rogue and go warrior/warlock it's an amazing build

[Rush4Life]

I had a rogue/ cleric before i didn't really like it so much, but now sub bard is alot better suited for me, cause its alot faster if you are tired of being slow moving, go sub bard. Or you could have done 1 hander / rogue that was a fun build too i had for a while before i got rid of warrior, use cross bow to get poison in, switch to sheild and sword repeat when poison wears off. If you switch more often you might find it more fun, honestly 2 handeds are just so boring to me. but like you said no parties on your server you'd be better off opting for daggers over the 2 handed (you may have it but you sounded as though you only had crossbow). Though if you want tanking power just get a cleric sub, vindiction could kill a giant 10 lvls higher easily (rogue/cleric) where as my sub bard has to use that extra speed of mine and get the hell away from the giant.

I will not tkae bard as sub, I want a 'different' build...
I guess rogue/warlock suits me best because there are none on Persia, and almost no warlocks either (only seen 2, 3 including my old warlock). Most people on Persia don't even know how to beat a warlock, especially a rogue that has his power being increased by his sub