clerics VS you(yea you ho ever read theas i men you)

dionisos · Post by **dionisos** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:50 pm

can you tell me if its easy to kill a lvl 80 cleric wen its on solo vs you solo
ClericVSyou and wen i men you oll ather chrs
and if you know how to kill a claric(lvl80) can you tell me and with woat chr is the best
VS clerics thx for help

kate4231 · Post by **kate4231** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:54 pm

clerics are jus basically healers so they would b easy to kill by and lvl 80 build IMO

torinchibi · Post by **torinchibi** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:28 pm

It really depends on the set. Since they can't give themselves the str bonus for more hp. However, if they are light armor clerics, with the buffs and the light armor passives it's a good 300 m.def extra and 200 p.def extra at level 80, on top of a shield. Basically, if you can't 1 shot a cleric, chances are you can't kill them, but they might not kill you either since it would be hard to pull off offering 1vs1.

It's probably as hard to kill a cleric level 80 as it is to kill a hybrid with the p.def of a glavier and the m.def of a s/s, with a 45 sec god mode every 3 mins.

Hard, yes. Impossible, hardly. Wiz can do it easily, rogue and 2h warrior can do it with a crit, and dagger rogue maybe even without one since the combo can be delivered before the cleric heals. Stun at the right moment when healing cycle runs out can also end up in death. Anyone that can 1 hit the cleric with all his buffs without bless spell can kill them. With bless spell on, it's a pretty big waste of time 1vs1.... and even 2vs1 in some cases.

BalkanFanaticS · Post by **BalkanFanaticS** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:12 pm

wow man its rly NOT THAT HARD !!!

i say from experience , if u have a set good enougth to deal with one Offering , hes dead ! (or u block it , ehehehehe)

phulshof · Post by **phulshof** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:52 pm

BalkanFanaticS wrote:wow man its rly NOT THAT HARD !!!
i say from experience , if u have a set good enougth to deal with one Offering , hes dead ! (or u block it , ehehehehe)

Anyone foolish enough to leave a cleric with more than 95% health for the duration of offering should reconsider his pvp skills anyway. Clerics should be on the floor, being KDed to death. Their holy word spell makes them ice immune, so don't bother with freezing them. Between recovery division and healing cycle they get healed like a Chinese. They deal damage like a sword/shield nuker, without snow shield, but with bless. Treat them as such.

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:57 am

cleric will one hit me or anyone for that matter with offering but i guess thats not allowed so i dont think a cleric with no other mastery would be able to kill me

Advancechao · Post by **Advancechao** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:13 am

phulshof wrote:
BalkanFanaticS wrote:wow man its rly NOT THAT HARD !!!
i say from experience , if u have a set good enougth to deal with one Offering , hes dead ! (or u block it , ehehehehe)

Anyone foolish enough to leave a cleric with more than 95% health for the duration of offering should reconsider his pvp skills anyway. Clerics should be on the floor, being KDed to death. Their holy word spell makes them ice immune, so don't bother with freezing them. Between recovery division and healing cycle they get healed like a Chinese. They deal damage like a sword/shield nuker, without snow shield, but with bless. Treat them as such.

Holy Word doesn't prevent Freeze, according to the skill description. Otherwise, you're right =]

Holy Word wrote:
Holy Word Lv 2
Active
Consumed MP: 107
Used weapon: Cleric Rod

Protects subject members from bad status except faint and freeze for a while by reciting the Holy Word.

Continuous hours 300 Second
Weakening SeriesReduce (Effect 68 )
Restriction SeriesReduce (Effect 68 )
Curse SeriesReduce (Effect 68 )
Weakening SeriesProbability 100% Reduce (3 level)
Restriction SeriesProbability 100% Reduce (3 level)
Curse SeriesProbability 100% Reduce (3 level)

torinchibi · Post by **torinchibi** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:29 am

Maybe it doesn't chance reduce against freeze, but because of the status reduce it's already high enough to counter level 80 freeze effect...I think. I've never been frozen with holy word on when I was frozen without it.

Btw, the poster never asked if you can survive against a cleric, simply asked if you can kill them. Constant KD or a stun at the right time so the cleric can't recast healing cycle is the way to kill them. If you happen to get unlucky so their recovery division heals them while they are stunned/down, they won't be dying.

phulshof · Post by **phulshof** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:11 am

Interesting skill description, but I too cannot freeze clerics when they use holy word. The reduction's stronger than the freeze effect I give off, so it protects them perfectly.

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:51 am

good cleric would never die.

ask OldRob on alps :love:

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:16 am

If the cleric just stands and keeps healing etc you will NEVER get it down 1v1

MrBow · Post by **MrBow** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:08 am

phulshof wrote:
Clerics should be on the floor, being KDed to death.

word.

phulshof · Post by **phulshof** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:09 am

Deacon wrote:If the cleric just stands and keeps healing etc you will NEVER get it down 1v1

Clerics on the floor only heal their recovery division and healing cycle. I can beat that down eventually. Now if they are also warlock, then I really need those expensive pills...