Frost guard

EvilDroid · Post by **EvilDroid** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:40 pm

Hey, can anyone tell me how benneficial the frost guard series is to a pure str glaiver, if at all? I did do a search, but for the most part I just found alot of people saying to get it, and alot of people saying not to. Seems like a pretty split decision. Does anyone know if there's a real noticable benefit to it?

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:50 am

its not necessary.

its a lot of sp just to level up ice for defense, your phys. defence is already good enough seeing as you are a STR build.

it looks nice though.

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:06 am

Only really effective at level 60 for both the buff and passive but as a pure str glaiver you don't really need it although it wouldn't hurt.

EvilDroid · Post by **EvilDroid** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:10 am

Hmmm, any idea how level 80 skills would affect a decision on getting it or not? I mean would it influence your own decision about leveling up ice?

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 am

nope.

lvl 80 skills dont influece at all.

i think the defence is weak until you get it to lvl 60 cuz then u get a nice passive boost to go along with it, but still its not necessary nor will it be at 80 skills.

EvilDroid · Post by **EvilDroid** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:18 am

Ok, thanks guys.. I only really have one more question.. My new char is going to be pretty PVP oriented.. If I face someone with similar gear as me and the same level as me, at say level 70.. If he has the ice buff and passive and I don't, will he have a big advantage over me? The only reason I ask is because I see a LOT of people with that ice buff, so it kind of makes me wonder.

I don't really want to have to farm extra just to get ice, but if not having it will put me at a disadvantage in PVP, I will definitely take the time to get it.

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:29 am

you are seeing a lot of people with that ice buff because they have played for a long time and knew that they would have lvl 80 skills for a long time.

when the lvl 90 cap comes out, we'll get lvl 90 skills and popular builds will only have 3 masteries (str builds will prob go for 90 weapon, 90 fire, 90 light)

if you really want ice, for the lvl 90 cap you can try 80 glaive 80 fire 80 light and 60 ice.

and i wouldnt think they would have a huge advantage over you in PVP, considering many people have dropped ice seeing as how the difference in damage taken with the buff on and off is pretty small and not worth the SP.

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:31 am

MrFudge wrote:nope.

lvl 80 skills dont influece at all.

i think the defence is weak until you get it to lvl 60 cuz then u get a nice passive boost to go along with it, but still its not necessary nor will it be at 80 skills.

dude...do you know that for example,
nukers before the skills were hitting 10-12k, now they hit 14-17!?
its a fking huge diff mate, imo i think every single piece of def added is welcome, its is necessary but not essential

and btw, its a big diff having ice at 60 or 80, deff for a pure itn or hybrid, ice to 80, str ice to 60..

EvilDroid · Post by **EvilDroid** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:33 am

Ok, thanks.. I think I'll just skip ice.. I'm just being really careful with this new char, it's almost lvl 40.. My old one is lvl 72 though and I made the mistake of making it a str hybrid basically. It doesn't do anywhere near as well as I would like in PVP.

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:35 am

[NF]IceCrash wrote:
MrFudge wrote:nope.

lvl 80 skills dont influece at all.

i think the defence is weak until you get it to lvl 60 cuz then u get a nice passive boost to go along with it, but still its not necessary nor will it be at 80 skills.

dude...do you know that for example,
nukers before the skills were hitting 10-12k, now they hit 14-17!?
its a fking huge diff mate, imo i think every single piece of def added is welcome, its is necessary but not essential

and btw, its a big diff having ice at 60 or 80, deff for a pure itn or hybrid, ice to 80, str ice to 60..

yea but we're talking to a full str glaive....

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:41 am

MrFudge wrote:
[NF]IceCrash wrote:
MrFudge wrote:nope.

lvl 80 skills dont influece at all.

i think the defence is weak until you get it to lvl 60 cuz then u get a nice passive boost to go along with it, but still its not necessary nor will it be at 80 skills.

dude...do you know that for example,
nukers before the skills were hitting 10-12k, now they hit 14-17!?
its a fking huge diff mate, imo i think every single piece of def added is welcome, its is necessary but not essential

and btw, its a big diff having ice at 60 or 80, deff for a pure itn or hybrid, ice to 80, str ice to 60..

yea but we're talking to a full str glaive....

srry lol
then ice at 60 is oki
and again sorry

Sekkaigan · Post by **Sekkaigan** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:56 pm

[NF]IceCrash wrote:
MrFudge wrote:nope.

lvl 80 skills dont influece at all.

i think the defence is weak until you get it to lvl 60 cuz then u get a nice passive boost to go along with it, but still its not necessary nor will it be at 80 skills.

dude...do you know that for example,
nukers before the skills were hitting 10-12k, now they hit 14-17!?
its a fking huge diff mate, imo i think every single piece of def added is welcome, its is necessary but not essential

and btw, its a big diff having ice at 60 or 80, deff for a pure itn or hybrid, ice to 80, str ice to 60..

Ice only relates to phys def... If you want magic def that would be fire...