Answer to Black_Manba's post over hacking

Ezeckiel · Post by **Ezeckiel** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:54 pm

I'm worried as well by this issue and would maybe stop if nothing is done by Joymax to give more confidence to the players in their system

I launch a vote :

Would you stop playing (buying silk) for one month to pressure on Joymaxand have them do something to improve SRO security

Troo · Post by **Troo** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:01 pm

I certainly won't charge anything till I know for sure they aren't brute-forcing servers etc. Until I know for sure that my account is save. If it will be 1 month.. so be it.

Infact I'll stop playing at all. It's almost rediculous to continue to play/farm without knowing for sure that your account won't be the next target of those hackers

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:02 pm

they have got sponsers they can cope

Th0m@$ · Post by **Th0m@$** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:08 pm

no matter what, something needs to be done about this. Its getting rediculos.

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:08 pm

I am not sure if it would help or not, but i definitely am not spending any more real money on the game until i know i am not going to be the target of a ******... ermm... hacker.

Megalomaniac · Post by **Megalomaniac** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:54 pm

Ill switch to GW lolz.
And when they have a normal security i might play sro(or at least when the euro update comes lol)

Anh_Hung_Rom · Post by **Anh_Hung_Rom** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:08 pm

Let me go make my picket sign.

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:16 pm

everybody just admit it, the problem is big because its F2P.

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:20 pm

doplertin · Post by **doplertin** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:52 pm

i think its a good idea to protest.

maybe if we bought a few globals first to warn everyone and joymax then see if they do anything?

id we stop buying silk all at once - well yeah that could work too.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:59 pm

Higher security meaning what? Less chance of hackers or less chances of botters or both?

I think the security is pretty good on sro, it's better then some other games that don't even have game guard so they can just roam free and do what they want unless a gm catches them, when game guard cahtces most easy bots but doesn't catch all.

One thing i would say they could improve for botters is this, make the bomb's they let people buy a bit more advance for one give them a name of the monster around the place their fighting, secondly make it look almost the same but different so non botters can tell the difference.

Hackers, well no matter how much security you can try put on a game, if theres a professional hacker out there that know's what he's doing a games security isn't gonna stop him, I know people get hacked but I don't see a drastic amount of people getting hacked for them to change the security of sro that much, all they need is more gm's on to catch botters or a easier way to communicate to gm's etc about that as for hackers I dunnu up the security a little bit a giuess.

Zhen · Post by **Zhen** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:02 pm

doplertin wrote:i think its a good idea to protest.

maybe if we bought a few globals first to warn everyone and joymax then see if they do anything?

id we stop buying silk all at once - well yeah that could work too.

I see the same people everyday advertising their power leveling websites or gold farming sites through globacl chat. The GMs aren't to pay much attention to global chat, because they're too busy doing whatever it is they're doing or are maybe on a different server when you're typing that out.

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:25 pm

maybe they should just have 1 GM per server. but that will never happen.

Ezeckiel · Post by **Ezeckiel** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:06 pm

Big majority to do it... others? ? ?

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:16 am

Truth is why would JM help us? It's always partially yourfauly if you lose your acocutn to a hacker

O and i do protest in globals ... i just get flamed by abotu 300 kids afterwards

Nyumetsu · Post by **Nyumetsu** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:03 am

not enough people would boycott. in theory, I would if I knew it was going to do anything. it's the thought that counts.

I never buy item mall items anyways. purity

drey7000 · Post by **drey7000** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:21 pm

gameguard!? wth, ive never actually seen any security on that thing! i mean, it hasnt actually stopped hackers from hacking people has it??
i hav been thinking of buying a gold ticket lately but if there will be a protest then screw the ticket, im with u guys....

oh, and there are also a good number of asses that wouldnt want to protest, namely botter and hackers themselves, and as master wong said, they got sponsors...
it would hav to last for more than a month if anything is gonna work...

also, if we needed to boycott for sumthing it should be more GMs.... only 3 gms for 8 or more servers....

i think spamming the SRO site with complaints and threats should do the trick... i mean seriously, a week ago the update said new antibot measures, but i still see botters evrywer!

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:29 pm

Yes, by all means stop playing RIGHT NOW. That way, I'll be able to get into the server.

If you want to force something, have a ton of people all make lvl 1 chars on one server (xian!) and sit in hotan with "JOYMAX DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HACKING" stalls selling nothing. The server (provided you get more than 5 people) will get clogged faster, Hotan will be clogged, and you'll probably piss off enough people to affect a change.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:35 pm

Anyone else notice that its Black_Manba? Dunno, the man thing just seems funny to me.

Megalomaniac · Post by **Megalomaniac** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:37 pm

ShizKnight wrote:Anyone else notice that its Black_Manba? Dunno, the man thing just seems funny to me.

I have...lolz

XxDeceptoRxX · Post by **XxDeceptoRxX** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:09 am

i agree with jm needing to add security but most of the 'hacking' is simply someone finding your info as in

your forum name or screen name for something = account name
and you enter your email on this forum/other forum/profile/etc
[or is the same as your screenname with @yahoo/hotmail/etc.com at the end]
then they simply need to guess the secret answer, if it's like; what's your favorite sports team they can manually brute force all sports teams within a day and boom you're gone same with where were you born, and other easy questions
then there's the brute force program which might get you when you have a simple password like "banana" or somethin
others happen from keylog, sharing accounts, ingame scam, direct connect 'hacking', website virus, etccccc

i doubt someone just hacks the database, it's very unrealistic to me, that's more like the Xian terror where someone spawned Roc or had special clothing from another sro, not stealing accounts imo

Jeronimo · Post by **Jeronimo** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:00 pm

completely useless ! JOYMAX didn't have the item mal 4 sum time and 1 month without it wouldn't change ANYTHING ! :roll:

Megalomaniac · Post by **Megalomaniac** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:51 pm

XxDeceptoRxX wrote:i agree with jm needing to add security but most of the 'hacking' is simply someone finding your info as in

your forum name or screen name for something = account name
and you enter your email on this forum/other forum/profile/etc
[or is the same as your screenname with @yahoo/hotmail/etc.com at the end]
then they simply need to guess the secret answer, if it's like; what's your favorite sports team they can manually brute force all sports teams within a day and boom you're gone same with where were you born, and other easy questions
then there's the brute force program which might get you when you have a simple password like "banana" or somethin
others happen from keylog, sharing accounts, ingame scam, direct connect 'hacking', website virus, etccccc

i doubt someone just hacks the database, it's very unrealistic to me, that's more like the Xian terror where someone spawned Roc or had special clothing from another sro, not stealing accounts imo

I dont think someone is stupid enough to really type their favorite sports team or whatever.
But the same usernames on different places can really be a problem.

Fadex · Post by **Fadex** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:28 pm

those powerlevel globals are very strange, U cant pm the sayer, even not 0,1 Milisecond after the global, pretty strange isnt it.

but, I wont charge, but I do would pay powerlevel, since it has nothing to do with the security of SRO, the one who lvls me plays by hand, 100% sure, I know him.

Ezeckiel · Post by **Ezeckiel** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:19 am

Megalomaniac wrote:
ShizKnight wrote:Anyone else notice that its Black_Manba? Dunno, the man thing just seems funny to me.

I have...lolz

I didn't noticed LOL

MaMba, sorry for that